Its possible. Because of his phenomenal recent success, many forget he is still a mangerial rookie. It could explain why his side sort of struggles away from home in the later stages of the champions league.
Wilshere - where does the hype come from?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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I read Basquets made the second most amount of passes. He recycles the ball very well and is good defensively, but I think they wanted to pass us off the park only for most of their passes and possession to be around their back four. Mascherano just wouldn't work with that game-plan against us.
I think if he really wanted to 'save' the game he'd have brought Mascherano on for Villa, instead of Keita. But I think he was looking for another option to drive at our midfield after they recovered possession.
Maybe after watching Wilshere outshine all the other midfielders throughout the match you'd make a chance to accommodate for his form, but who knows what was going through his head at the time?
I was stunned by Wilshire's performance. I knew he was good, but his composure in the middle, with Barca midfield all over him, was exceptional. He protects it well, moves it quickly & inventively, plus he can tackle. Credit to Wenger for playing him centrally in big games at such a young age.
Still think Arse were very lucky though, could easily have been 3/4 down first half, then they would have been murdered having to chase the game too much.
Still think Arse were very lucky though, could easily have been 3/4 down first half, then they would have been murdered having to chase the game too much.
Just out of interest both sides had five shots on target, and we had one more shot than them in total.
Stop it cesc ........they dont want to hear that
Just goes to show how poorly Messi and Pedro did with their clear chances. And why they should have been first choices for forwards being subbed
How many shots on target did you manage against us again? If I recall your first was post 70 minutes.
The chances they created & missed early on don't count as shots on target do they. You were getting run ragged & if their finishing had been up to their usual standard you'd have been fecked! Are you seriously telling me you didn't think thank feck for that going in 1-0 down at half time?
I'm not the one who's deluded here.
I'm not the one who's deluded here.
Relax big guy, who said anything about delusions? All I did was state a simple fact/stat, which was out of interest.
They also had a good goal disallowed. As the poster says, you got lucky.
I'm chilled mate
Relax big guy, who said anything about delusions? All I did was state a simple fact/stat, which was out of interest.
Jo suggested we were being biased, based on your shots on target stat. I'm just saying it's you Gooners who don't want to hear how badly you were ripped apart early on.Mascherano played 90 minutes last Saturday, in what was probably Barcelona's worst performance since October. Busquets had been rested for that game having played 90 minutes for Spain mid-week.
Given the mood of the match and the way their players were tiring, I'd have thought Masch could have come on rather than Keita. But I guess Guardiola might have thought that that would destabilise the midfield further and reduce the passing rhythm.
In any case, Mascherano hasn't yet done anything with Barca to give Pep reason to believe that he's a key man.
Barcelona had a perfectly fine goal disallowed. Notice how none of the Arsenal supporters are mentioning that, notice how none of the opposition fans are mentioning it, notice how the papers didn't make a big deal out of it at all.
If United had been playing a team who had a fine goal disallowed there would have been at least 15 mins examination of it, all the opposition supporters would only have discussed that in all their examinations of the game, there would have been calls of bias, favouring from referees and corruption yet again, the papers would have probably mentioned it in the first line of their article...
I know this has nothing to do with Wilshere, I'm just saying.
If United had been playing a team who had a fine goal disallowed there would have been at least 15 mins examination of it, all the opposition supporters would only have discussed that in all their examinations of the game, there would have been calls of bias, favouring from referees and corruption yet again, the papers would have probably mentioned it in the first line of their article...
I know this has nothing to do with Wilshere, I'm just saying.
The Arsenal only come out when they have won a match.
They are like cheeky schoolboys who taste a bit of glory then begin throwing around comments like Gibbs is a better player than Rafael.
The game they are beating themselves off to is only at HT.
If they go to the Nou Camp and play like they did at OT this season, they will lose the fixture and be knocked out.
They are like cheeky schoolboys who taste a bit of glory then begin throwing around comments like Gibbs is a better player than Rafael.
The game they are beating themselves off to is only at HT.
If they go to the Nou Camp and play like they did at OT this season, they will lose the fixture and be knocked out.
Well if one of us speaks for all of us then you're all a bunch of morons. I mean I can select one of you lot on here who speaks for the rest of you then, can't I?
I take your point, but the majority of what was said is true.
Look at Gillespie Airlines rearing his head after all this time.
Quite frankly it looks awful.
yeap. Loooooooong way to go but it sounds about right.
His display on Wednesday was certainly Scholes-esque, although not a prime Scholes, but the Scholes of today. Dont know if he'll ever get the goals that Scholes got from midfield... What was he like at Reserve level in this regard?
BTW... You lucky bastards
But but but.. Scholes is a dirty player.
What a player he is becoming. I wish we could have him in our side.
Scored plenty at youth level, won't be long now before he starts scoring in PL too.His display on Wednesday was certainly Scholes-esque, although not a prime Scholes, but the Scholes of today. Dont know if he'll ever get the goals that Scholes got from midfield... What was he like at Reserve level in this regard?
BTW... You lucky bastards
Look at Fabregas and Nasri's transformation. Both came into the side and found their feet first, and after a few seasons at the top they became big scoring threats. I suspect Wilshere will follow the same path.
Jack always looked like more of a goalscorer than Cesc, they'll soon start flying in.
Top notch performance from him today. If Arsenal end up trophyless this season, I reckon we could tempt the player himself who could force the clubs hand, or maybe i'm just clutching at straws.
Would love to have him here.
Would love to have him here.
Less praise, more laughing, closet gunner.
Yes - clutching at straws Mac!!!! Doubt he'll leave whilst Arsenal are challenging.
I'd love him at United though. Think he is class and was undoubtedly the ONLY Arsenal player I felt a little bit of sorrow for today. Was very, very good!!!
I'd love him at United though. Think he is class and was undoubtedly the ONLY Arsenal player I felt a little bit of sorrow for today. Was very, very good!!!
Was fantastic today for the Arse. How the hell do we not get such talents....
Gutted he doesnt play for us. Potentially world class midfielder within 3-4 years at this rate.
What kind of closet gunner would ask for Wilshere to move to Man Utd.
Didn't feel sorry for him one bit. He is becoming heck of a player but, an arrogant Arse player. Good to see him break down like that.
Monumental wankstain.
It's good news for England, this lad should be first choice now, and thus the end of Lampard Gerrard in the middle together
Christ.....we'll just have to content ourselves with being top of the table, eh?Was fantastic today for the Arse. How the hell do we not get such talents....
What Shimo said. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
I thought he was sensational once again
I truly envy how this lad came from their ranks
I want us to break the bank for him.
I truly envy how this lad came from their ranks
I want us to break the bank for him.
Faded a bit 2nd half I thought. Arsenal's best player before that. Surrounded by utter shite.
I don't think there is any doubt on how good this lad can become but as with my opinion of all Arsenal's youngsters, it is whether he fulfils it at Arsenal or somewhere else.
IMO, I would happily spunk a large chunk of the £80m from Ronaldo on him. If there is actually any of it left
IMO, I would happily spunk a large chunk of the £80m from Ronaldo on him. If there is actually any of it left
Wilshire is exactly the type of player we need. Shame there is no chance of him joining us though
Felt he was good today, but can't gush with the praise given he was partly culpable for the first goal and Fahey almost notching the second when he hit the post.
Someone said hes englands best player. Got into a big debate over that. I personally feel hes not.
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