I'm sorry to say but again its Moysey Oley.
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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What’s the payout on his contract? Lawyers on both sides must be examining the small print right now.
But hey, lets give Ole more time and money his signings have turned out great, and when he fails as coach lets appoint him as DOF just because.
The Ole in lot seem to think that we are where this squad deserves to be. So with that very assertion they are accepting that Ole can’t get a squad to over perform.
But to play devils advocate. Let’s accept that’s right. Let’s accept that this squad is a 9th, or however low Ole finishes, squad. If that’s the case then why was Mourinho sacked for finishing 2nd with a 9th, or however low Ole takes it, squad? Surely the guy deserved a medal not the sack.
Also after one year of coaching and two windows of his rebuilding. We can assume that this 9th, or however low Ole can take it, squad and players are better then when Mourinho was manager. That is if you genuinely believe that Ole is a good manager who is doing a good job.
But to play devils advocate. Let’s accept that’s right. Let’s accept that this squad is a 9th, or however low Ole finishes, squad. If that’s the case then why was Mourinho sacked for finishing 2nd with a 9th, or however low Ole takes it, squad? Surely the guy deserved a medal not the sack.
Also after one year of coaching and two windows of his rebuilding. We can assume that this 9th, or however low Ole can take it, squad and players are better then when Mourinho was manager. That is if you genuinely believe that Ole is a good manager who is doing a good job.
He might be the worst manager we’ve appointed post busby years too.
Didn't want Ole, but a new manager is not going to magic Fred and Pereira into top 4 CM midfielders.
Until we get McT & Pogba back or add in January, I don't see anything improving regardless of the manager
Until we get McT & Pogba back or add in January, I don't see anything improving regardless of the manager
Yup , absolutely. These players get to play week in week out without competition and hence take things for granted. It's one thing to make an effort and not get to the ball but being out of the picture completely is criminal.
Next two games vs Tottenham and City timing couldn't have been more perfect. If they don't send him packing and put an end to this rubbish nothing will.
Then I don't think you understand what the point of a manager is.
I think because Mourinho was at the club for longer. Also his lack of fan/player appeasement made it easier to want him sacked. Ole knows how to talk for the audience
I was one of them and stand by it.
We are going to lose our next two high-profile fixtures - the entire football world will be watching. Jose's return to Old Trafford. The bitter Manchester derby. We are going to handily lose both games and be around 13th in the table and that will be it for Woodward. The conversations are already taking place and have been for some time, that's how businesses work - they hold risk management meetings and Ole Gunnar Sockpuppet is, and has been, a major risk to their business for a little while now.
The risk is going to be managed accordingly before Christmas, but we may be too late to secure a good replacement.
He should be fired first thing tomorrow morning if he isn't willing to walk of his own accord and save some face.
I accept he’s not doing a great job but I’m still unsure on his sacking, who do we bring in?
people seem to adore Poch, he’s had Harry Kane belting them in at spurs, can’t see martial doing that for us under him. I genuinely think Poch would also struggle here.
No midfield, no strikers. Just loads of fast wingers. It’ll still be a struggle and then come summer we’ll be calling for pochs head Too.
I’m at a loss at what I think is best to do, I think our board would feel the same
people seem to adore Poch, he’s had Harry Kane belting them in at spurs, can’t see martial doing that for us under him. I genuinely think Poch would also struggle here.
No midfield, no strikers. Just loads of fast wingers. It’ll still be a struggle and then come summer we’ll be calling for pochs head Too.
I’m at a loss at what I think is best to do, I think our board would feel the same
I really think, if we lose the Derby, he will be sacked, will that be the right thing to do ? I have no idea any more.
Well I dont think you can tell the difference between fantasy and reality.
While not all of it, Management is also about personality because that’s what people respond to. Ole is less interesting to listen to then Moyes. That says a lot.
This was the man who chose to let Herrera and Fellaini go.
He doesn't deserve sympathy for having to play a midfield of Pereira and Fred.
Didn't sign a midfielder or a left back either when it was clear he needed to do so. I'd rather have a manager who can do better with what we've got which is still a squad that should be competing for top 4. Not mid table.
He doesn't deserve sympathy for having to play a midfield of Pereira and Fred.
Didn't sign a midfielder or a left back either when it was clear he needed to do so. I'd rather have a manager who can do better with what we've got which is still a squad that should be competing for top 4. Not mid table.
He wanted Herrera to stay. We all wanted Fellini to go
The same Kane that Potch developed into the world class striker that he is because he certainly wasn’t belting them in before Potch arrived.
I’ve actually switched back to keep as I don’t want to be at month 0 with either Poch or Allegri who I am certain would not succeed. Would rather treat Ole as a paper manager until the right man is available. I’d probably like Nagelsmann. He intrigues me
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More importantly I want to switch to a structure where our first team manager and coach is replaceable with a Director of Football and their team responsible for longer term transfer planning.
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More importantly I want to switch to a structure where our first team manager and coach is replaceable with a Director of Football and their team responsible for longer term transfer planning.
We've already lost face so many times, might as well try Poch and see how he goes. It won't be a costly mistake firing Ole, that's for sure.
Ole is getting a free pass because of the inept board, an agenda driven CEO, his history as a player, lack of standards at the club and of course Man United fans being the best in the world at tempering their own expectations to support the manager. A lot of supporters buy into the rebuild myth and it takes time myth, whereas none can quote an example wherein an elite club in modern day football tolerated mediocre managers for so long as we have. And furthermore no one can answer why we should persist with Ole given that he has not been able to set up a style of play in 11 months.
Are you implying he can do the same to martial?
Im getting genuinely worried that we will get spanked good and proper one of these days. Like 6 or 7 against. If we play the same midfield against City and Spurs it will be like a knife through butter.
I can agree with this. I’m dreading us trying to get Pochettino
that's a great reason to be fair.No, I am just telling you Kane wasn’t belting them in before he arrived.
I want him gone but possibly after the January transfer window if he is really able to get players that he himself can attract like Haaland. If he can't do that then he can go.
If this is the line of thinking then why did we get rid of Jose (an infinitely better manager ) without a replacement lined up? Sometimes enough is enough & you scour the potential alternatives after we have a vacancy
But I’m telling you that Pochettino he had Kane belting them in at spurs, whether we agree he developed him or not. He won’t have that here.
Just changed to sack, the results just aren’t coming.
I feel really sorry for him because the squad is rubbish, but football is a results business.
I think I changed to sack the night before José lost his job, maybe Itl happen again?
God knows where we go next, Poch doesn’t really excite me.
I feel really sorry for him because the squad is rubbish, but football is a results business.
I think I changed to sack the night before José lost his job, maybe Itl happen again?
God knows where we go next, Poch doesn’t really excite me.
How many were available Ndombele, Rabiot, Tielemans, Gueye, Barella, Ceballo ? Yet Ole / Woodward spent their time chasing after Sean Longstaff. Ole even confirmed disregarding any back up targets so our lack of midfield reinforcement is also largely down to his influence.
Not to mention Smalling, Lukaku, Sanchez...
I said at the time that gutting the squad and replacing them with kids was asking for trouble. The only surprise for me is that we aren't closer to the relegation zone.
Of course it would be.
I’d like to start by saying I really don’t want Poch here, but if that is what’s going to happen, do you know he can’t start now?
I’ve seen a lot of people talking about him losing his payment if he were to take another job in England this season, but do we know that clause exists for sure?
Well good thing we didn't play a top 4 team today
Just get Poch and give him money for Jan. Much better plan.
So if we sack him without a replacement and then scour for alternatives who takes over in the meantime? Serious question.
I was relieved when mourhino went but I wasn’t desperate for him to leave. He’s a class manager but not a very classy speaker, he did annoy me with what he said at times and he sulked himself out of the job to be honest didn’t he
Ok mate. He’s not a winner. I see that it goes against the forum thinking to think the sun doesn’t actually rise out of pochs arse
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