Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)

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I have stated previously that we should at least give Ole this full season and then make a decision in May on whether it is working or if change is needed. I don't think sentiment plays a part in that, it needs to be a fact based decision based on all aspects of his performance in the role and a consideration of what alternatives are available and if we think they can improve us. Ole has by no means been given a fair shot and is being prematurely judged in some part due to a press that loves to kick us when we are down and due to the selective memory of those who seem to think we were promised a contending team this year.

In the summer the club and Ole made clear that short term fixes had failed and a longer term plan was needed, stripping the squad of overpaid and underperforming veterans, giving opportunities to youth players to see what they had and reshaping the team over several transfer windows. The message was clear that we would probably go backwards before things improved and considering we were a 6th place team what exactly were people expecting? If nothing else I would say this in defence of Ole. If you are told you have a couple of years to build a winning team and you make your decisions on that basis it is ridiculous to then move the goalposts less than a quarter of the way into the season and say we need to be competing right now. I imagine the decisions he made would have been different if he knew that the mob would start baying for blood as soon as things got tough and he would have made the same short term decisions that have hamstrung us for 6 years.

I don't think last season has much bearing on anything as most of it was spent in a caretaker role and even when that tag was removed we were a couple of months away from the end of the season and with no opportunity to change the squad so for me the real assessment began with this summer. To that end I don't really credit Ole all that much for the initial success nor do I blame him for the team running out of gas.

I was happy with the job done is the summer although like 99% of posters and Ole himself I felt we needed a couple more players to replace what we lost. The style of play was evident, the new signings all look like money well spent and the first XI at least looked capable of doing a job and that was backed up by the performances in the opening couple of games when we looked more solid at the back and dangerous going forward. Losing Martial and Shaw impacted us significantly and it has been a pretty dire few weeks since then as the lack of depth has been ruthlessly exposed. Ole has tried to maintain the style of play introduced in pre season but without the right players for the system it just is not working and with not a lot going right for us panic has started to set in.

The fact remains we are 8 league games into Ole's first full season on the job and as mentioned elsewhere we could easily be top 6 without missed penalties etc. and though we might still be complaining about the tactics etc. we wouldn't be talking about firing anyone. Over a full season luck ceases to be a factor, we will get a couple of wins we probably didn't earn etc. and it will balance out but that has not been the case so far. We will get a run of games with our first choice attack and we will have the opportunity to add a player or two in January. Come seasons end we should be minus a couple more of the deadbeats and hopefully will have added a couple more good players. If Ole still looks a bad fit then his replacement will be inheriting a far better situation than Ole himself did and that is really the worst case scenario. I will cheerfully take money from anyone who wants to bet on us going down because that is not happening and therefore we have nothing to lose by sticking to the plan we only made 2 months ago and potentially a whole lot to gain by showing some backbone and taking our lumps this year to finally fix this squad.
Great post. 100% agree.
 

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How about this for a bet. I say Ole picks it up. Even by Christmas Utd. Is top six. He will be here all season and start the next. If I’m right, you go back to your Swansea forum and never post here again. If I’m wrong I will do the same. There is no way you are a Man Utd fan. And if you are, one of the most reactionary and clueless there is. I can only think of Haram in the same category.. Nevertheless.. Bet on?
You willing to put some money to back your bet? Coming from your posts and Roy Keen I guess you are a wum with 180 posts around here. Name your bet - I wager Ole won't start next season.
 

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Great post. 100% agree.
It's well written but all I see are a load of excuses for why we're in such a terrible position, and the usual saying Ole is doing a great job/rebuild behind the scenes despite having no idea what he's actually doing behind the scenes. Then at the end claiming that we will likely end up in a much better position than we are currently in despite no manager in the history of the PL (I think?) ever turning things around from such an appalling position where we have steadily gone from worse to worse.
 

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That 2nd finish under Fergie was a false flag similar to Jose’s - fergie knew it and tore that team apart. All Jose wanted to do was buy.
He did, and made quite a few mistakes on the way, though in true United fashion he was unlucky with some of his signings turning out to be crocks (Wallace, Webb). Re-signing Hughes may have turned out ok in the long run, but it didn’t half disrupt the team.

I still don’t really see what he did being significantly different from Jose. With the benefit of hindsight it could be justified as being for the long term (though it didn’t feel that way at the time), whereas Jose was unashamedly looking for immediate results. That doesn’t explain obviously short term “panic” signings like Mal Donaghy though.

Still, it’s Ole we’re talking about, not Jose, and although there were certainly doubts about some of SAF’s decisions around the turn of the decade, we did enjoy a lengthy spell of improvement after he first joined, and among the bad performances there were fairly regular good ones. If we at least go down all guns blazing against Liverpool we can start to wonder whether Ole can do the same. Beyond a handful of early games and a couple of fluke results it’s been continuously bad so far.
 

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You willing to put some money to back your bet? Coming from your posts and Roy Keen I guess you are a wum with 180 posts around here. Name your bet - I wager Ole won't start next season.
My post on Roy Keen? I know my football, and you don’t. I don’t make bets on sports, that’s why I live in a 500k house and you in your mothers basement. If Ole starts next season, you never post on here again. Or are you not so sure about your analysis after all?
 

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My post on Roy Keen? I know my football, and you don’t. I don’t make bets on sports, that’s why I live in a 500k house and you in your mothers basement. If Ole starts next season, you never post on here again. Or are you not so sure about your analysis after all?
So you live in a 500k house yet you can't make a simple bet for even like 100 pounds? :lol: Obvious wum is obvious.

I'd generally will want you around so that you can eat your own words, but I guess if Ole is out you will leave either way. You are full of shite mate, that much is clear. When it comes down to bragging the value of your house it speak volumes. :lol:

If you are willing to bet some money let me know, it shouldn't be a problem for a multi millionaire like you isn't it? :lol:
 

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So you live in a 500k house yet you can't make a simple bet for even like 100 pounds? :lol: Obvious wum is obvious.

I'd generally will want you around so that you can eat your own words, but I guess if Ole is out you will leave either way. You are full of shite mate, that much is clear. When it comes down to bragging the value of your house it speak volumes. :lol:

If you are willing to bet some money let me know, it shouldn't be a problem for a multi millionaire like you isn't it? :lol:
Thought so. Nothing but empty words.. like for like, even odds. Sounds like a good deal I should jump on. What an idiot..Looking forward to your first post on football, and a tip on getting out of that basement is start taking notes. That band playing inside your head is not in tune. Empty words.. what a shocker..
 

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Thought so. Nothing but empty words.. Looking forward to your first post on football, and a tip on getting out of that basement is start taking notes. That band playing inside your head is not in tune. Empty words.. what a shocker..
So, a millionaire like you can't make a simple bet and won't put up a hundred? Not sure whose words are empty. You are backtracking as you come.

What's the point of your bet since you will disappear either way after Ole is sacked?
 

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crazy how 1 result with 6 first team players out changes the vote from 60% keep to majority sack :wenger:
Crazy how fickle some are indeed. No idea how anyone was for keeping him before that result, in the first place.
 

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So, a millionaire like you can't make a simple bet and won't put up a hundred? Not sure whose words are empty. You are backtracking as you come.

What's the point of your bet since you will disappear either way after Ole is sacked?
Don’t make football bets. You know, that is a loosing game over time. Never make decisions based on emotions, like you try exploit on here I see. You want to make an even bet on Ole leaving, with the shit team he got to work with and odds stacked against him. But you are not so sure you can handle a bet of never posting here again, becouse you are afraid I might leave anyway? Are you for real!? If you are so sure, take the bet. If Ole starts next season, you never post on here again.
 

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It's well written but all I see are a load of excuses for why we're in such a terrible position, and the usual saying Ole is doing a great job/rebuild behind the scenes despite having no idea what he's actually doing behind the scenes. Then at the end claiming that we will likely end up in a much better position than we are currently in despite no manager in the history of the PL (I think?) ever turning things around from such an appalling position where we have steadily gone from worse to worse.
Massive Spanner, I honestly couldn't give a feck about a few bad results right now. We've a weak squad, heaps of injuries and we've had a run of bad luck. Honestly though if we'd had better luck and won some of the games we deserved to I wouldn't be placing huge stock in it either. Because we knew going into the season we didn't have a good enough group of players to do anything much anyway.

Pretending some magic coach will turn Young, Fred, Matic, Mata and Pereira into a winning team is just silly. I've no idea what's going through peoples heads on here.

The quality and character of the players is the single biggest factor in a teams success. No team ever significantly improved without good recruitment. It is literally the only thing that will get us back where we want to be. Ole's record so far is 3 good signings out of 3. I'm delighted with that. The idea that we should just give up on it after a few bad results is completely ridiculous. The board should be backing him twice as hard based on his recruitment so far.
 

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Massive Spanner, I honestly couldn't give a feck about a few bad results right now. We've a weak squad, heaps of injuries and we've had a run of bad luck. Honestly though if we'd had better luck and won some of the games we deserved to I wouldn't be placing huge stock in it either. Because we knew going into the season we didn't have a good enough group of players to do anything much anyway.

Pretending some magic coach will turn Young, Fred, Matic, Mata and Pereira into a winning team is just silly. I've no idea what's going through peoples heads on here.

The quality and character of the players is the single biggest factor in a teams success. No team ever significantly improved without good recruitment. It is literally the only thing that will get us back where we want to be. Ole's record so far is 3 good signings out of 3. I'm delighted with that. The idea that we should just give up on it after a few bad results is completely ridiculous. The board should be backing him twice as hard based on his recruitment so far.
I don't think anyone is saying that, though.

But I'm pretty sure a better manager than Ole could at least beat teams like Newcastle, S'hampton, West Ham, AZ and Rochdale with our squad.

Great, 3 good signings in 3. 2 of which were about as obvious as you could make, what else has he done? Are we playing better football? No. Has he fixed our injury problems? No. Does our player coaching look better? No. What the feck else is he doing behind the scenes that warrants us being probably the worst team in the Premier League right now?

I keep seeing these mammoth posts about how it's important we stick by him because the club's a mess and the player's are shite and yet nobody can actually tell me what it is that Ole is doing to address any of that beyond "well y'know, his signings were good.."
 

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isn't that what ole's brigade is about? Needing to back him up with cash in January, 3 trasnfer window and all that?
but Ole speaks about kids as well. He barely plays them the full game but hey, he speaks about them. Also he's no defensive manager like Jose is. Sure 2/3 of his signings were defenders and we barely have a shot on goal these days...but.....he smiles alot.
 

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Massive Spanner, I honestly couldn't give a feck about a few bad results right now. We've a weak squad, heaps of injuries and we've had a run of bad luck. Honestly though if we'd had better luck and won some of the games we deserved to I wouldn't be placing huge stock in it either. Because we knew going into the season we didn't have a good enough group of players to do anything much anyway.

Pretending some magic coach will turn Young, Fred, Matic, Mata and Pereira into a winning team is just silly. I've no idea what's going through peoples heads on here.

The quality and character of the players is the single biggest factor in a teams success. No team ever significantly improved without good recruitment. It is literally the only thing that will get us back where we want to be. Ole's record so far is 3 good signings out of 3. I'm delighted with that. The idea that we should just give up on it after a few bad results is completely ridiculous. The board should be backing him twice as hard based on his recruitment so far.
A dinosaur did get 2nd with them once
 

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Don’t make football bets. You know, that is a loosing game over time. Never make decisions based on emotions, like you try exploit on here I see. You want to make an even bet on Ole leaving, with the shit team he got to work with and odds stacked against him. But you are not so sure you can handle a bet of never posting here again, becouse you are afraid I might leave anyway? Are you for real!? If you are so sure, take the bet. If Ole starts next season, you never post on here again.
Money is objective and not based on sentiments and usually always the best choice for a bet.

I'm not afraid about anything mate, I'm looking at your side of the bet and you don't lose anything. You probably won't post here again either way if you lose as you have spoken shite for a while now how he will turn it around and how he's the right choice given time. Literally every post you make is based on that.

You don't even have the rights to post more than 5 posts per day, absolutely meaningless bet on my side. As I said I'd rather you stay here so you can eat up your own words.

I'm not asking you to bet your house on it, but if you have the money as you claim what is 100 bucks for you? You are either full of shite or you are backtracking of your words as soon as someone calls your bluff.

Besides he's currently 4/1 to get the sack I'm giving you twice the better odds than any other bookie out there.

I'd chip in a tenner against him
Depends if he gets his allowance this week. I doubt he is making money on his own.
 

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My post on Roy Keen? I know my football, and you don’t. I don’t make bets on sports, that’s why I live in a 500k house and you in your mothers basement. If Ole starts next season, you never post on here again. Or are you not so sure about your analysis after all?
One of the worst posts from literally the worst poster I have ever read on here. And god knows there have been some shit ones.
 

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I don't think anyone is saying that, though.

But I'm pretty sure a better manager than Ole could at least beat teams like Newcastle, S'hampton, West Ham, AZ and Rochdale with our squad.

Great, 3 good signings in 3. 2 of which were about as obvious as you could make, what else has he done? Are we playing better football? No. Has he fixed our injury problems? No. Does our player coaching look better? No. What the feck else is he doing behind the scenes that warrants us being probably the worst team in the Premier League right now?

I keep seeing these mammoth posts about how it's important we stick by him because the club's a mess and the player's are shite and yet nobody can actually tell me what it is that Ole is doing to address any of that beyond "well y'know, his signings were good.."

We've had a few bad results with a decimated squad. We are carrying about 4 complete passengers in every game right now. Players who didn't perform under Jose either. Ole didn't sign those useless fecks. He's just stuck with them until he can sign replacements. We have never in my life had such weak squads to chose from going into games. We've about 6 good established players left fit and the rest are either useless or kids. I think our performances are pretty much what you'd expect with what we have to chose from. I didn't expect to beat either West Ham or Newcastle when I saw the squads.

I can tell by the tone of the bolded parts of your post there's probably not too much point in discussing it much further though.
 

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We've had a few bad results with a decimated squad. We are carrying about 4 complete passengers in every game right now. Players who didn't perform under Jose either. Ole didn't sign those useless fecks. He's just stuck with them until he can sign replacements. We have never in my life had such weak squads to chose from going into games. We've about 6 good established players left fit and the rest are either useless or kids. I think our performances are pretty much what you'd expect with what we have to chose from. I didn't expect to beat either West Ham or Newcastle when I saw the squads.

I can tell by the tone of the bolded parts of your post there's probably not too much point in discussing it much further though.
It was his job to make sure in the Summer we won't find ourselves in such shit situation if some injuries occur. Also his training methods have something to do with our squad being decimated and so many muscle injuries.

In his own words he could've signed replacements but they weren't the "right ones". When the planing is just awful you can't blame it on luck or injuries.
 

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It was his job to make sure in the Summer we won't find ourselves in such shit situation if some injuries occur. Also his training methods have something to do with our squad being decimated and so many muscle injuries.

In his own words he could've signed replacements but they weren't the "right ones". When the planing is just awful you can't blame it on luck or injuries.
The bolded part is exactly why he's the right manager.
 

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The bolded part is exactly why he's the right manager.
Or just delusional and naive. We won't attract top players if we aren't doing well in the short term.

If we don't fill the holes in our squad and there is a clear digress in performances relegation won't be so far fetched scenario.

The only positive so far for him has been that Maguire, AWB and James clicked(albeit very small sample), apart from that it's simply a disaster.
 

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We've had a few bad results with a decimated squad. We are carrying about 4 complete passengers in every game right now. Players who didn't perform under Jose either. Ole didn't sign those useless fecks. He's just stuck with them until he can sign replacements. We have never in my life had such weak squads to chose from going into games. We've about 6 good established players left fit and the rest are either useless or kids. I think our performances are pretty much what you'd expect with what we have to chose from. I didn't expect to beat either West Ham or Newcastle when I saw the squads.

I can tell by the tone of the bolded parts of your post there's probably not too much point in discussing it much further though.
I think that's pure madness, quite frankly, especially with Newcastle. That 11 out there should still have beaten them.

And the idea that Ole can actually turn it around from a position like this, something no PL manager has ever done, is pure fantasy. I love the guy but he's a terrible, terrible manager. But suit yourself, it would be amazing if he did, but I'm pragmatic, not romantic, so I'm 99% sure he won't.
 

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I think that's pure madness, quite frankly, especially with Newcastle. That 11 out there should still have beaten them.

And the idea that Ole can actually turn it around from a position like this, something no PL manager has even done, is pure fantasy. But suit yourself, it would be amazing if he did, but I'm pragmatic, not romantic, so I'm 99% sure he won't.
If he signs another couple of quality players in January I'll be happy with that to be honest. Good recruitment is the only thing that fixes this in the long term.
 

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If he signs another couple of quality players in January I'll be happy with that to be honest. Good recruitment is the only thing that fixes this in the long term.
That's a big if. January is notoriously expensive and difficult to get good players in. And if he doesn't get a striker who can instantly bang goals in then he's f*cked.
 

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The scary part of it all is that the bar has been lowered, by some, to such an extent for OGS, that even if we end up finishing the season 6th - 10th with him still in charge, it will be hailed as some sort of achievement.
Exactly. Some of the excuses that are laid out for him are ridiculous. Literally all teams miss chances, pick up injuries, have decisions go against them etc. The bar has been lowered to a scarily low level and I don’t know if some fans are getting carried away by the nostalgia of Ole being here or if they’re genuinely deluded.
 

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The main things that come out when you watch united play are lethargic play, no one taking risks in passing/runs, poor movement and vertical runs from strikers/cmf/full backs, lack of aggression in tackling and closing down, being 2nd to second balls, poor composure in the final third and in the box.

Now all of these can be easily attributed to coaching but I think it goes beyond that. Primarily issues arise from the following reasons:

1) Fitness: Full backs, wide forwards and sometime central midfielders need to be making sprints up and down to be more dynamic and to open up the field. If you are not fit enough then you will be reluctant to make those forward sprints as you tire for the fear of leaving space behind

2) Mentality/ Attitude: Some of this is natural and some circumstantial. In all walks of life, what separates equally talented people is the mental resilience, drive, attitude. In general, there is a large mentality malaise within the squad that may also be attributed to previous managers/ and lack of leaders. Nobody on the football pitch wants to take responsibility and take risks. Everyone plays it safe so that they are not blamed for any mistakes. Its an attitude for someone who is trying to hide/ get away rather than looking to win. I think it started with LVG (remember the video sessions and emphasis on taking a touch before shooting) and then continued under Jose (calling out individuals in public). Lack of leaders within the group means that nobody challenges the team mates when they take the safe option

3) Lack of Confidence in themselves and in each other: This is primarily because of constant failures and leads to players doubting themselves, taking an extra touch, not taking risks. One of the things that Ole changed when he came last year was to instil confidence and with each victory the group became more confident. This went on till we were winning but as soon as we lost to Arsenal, the self doubts came back and the players crumbled. Also highlights the mental fragility of some of our players.

4) Training: I do feel that movement on the pitch can be trained/coached by practice and repetitions on the training pitch. Our strikers don’t make simple movements like coming in a little deep to lay off the ball and then turning the defender and making the run behind. That should be easily be coached and practiced

5) Talent/ skill: The last and the most contributing factor is the lack of skill. Our midfielders and forwards are not able to execute basic skills such as first touch, passing, dribbling, finishing at the highest level. If you compare our forwards to players such as Aguero, RVP, Salah, there is a clear gap in talent. Those players fashioned chances on their own in the box through tight control, quick feet, movement. Similarly, our midfielders apart from Pogba don’t have the skill to accurately play 50-60 yard passes, to dribble in central areas, play into the strikers feet. And the first touch of most of our players is so horribly inconsistent that it constantly leads to moves breaking down.

So while issue 1,2,3,4 should be to an extent tackled with better coaching, all of them take time to improve and the results might not be immediately visible. The fact that it is a combination of these factors and not just one isolated factor makes it much harder to create and sustain changes. Thats why I feel its to premature to judge Ole and the staff because what we see is the result on the pitch. They might be working on all of the above and yet players have not yet internalised these to make sustainable improvements. And with some players, you can try to coach on all 4 aspects but they may show an incapability to learn. In which case, you need to get new players in, which again takes time.
I think you hit the nail in the head here. Anyone remember how hopeless we looked when Jose was having his meltdown? Then Ole comes in with a bit of positivity and we suddenly look like world beaters (which incidentally landed Ole the job) and then we revert back to being shite after Arsenal. Despite our squad being the worse its been in years in terms of talent, they are still more than good enough to put the likes of Astana, Rochdale and Newcastle to the sword

Loads of people on here like to point to (lack) of coaching as the reason as to why we look so clueless, but imo this is mostly in the players heads.
 

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Exactly. Some of the excuses that are laid out for him are ridiculous. Literally all teams miss chances, pick up injuries, have decisions go against them etc. The bar has been lowered to a scarily low level and I don’t know if some fans are getting carried away by the nostalgia of Ole being here or if they’re genuinely deluded.
Probably a bit of both. Or fear of changing managers again? Either way, its obvious he’s looking way out of his depth. I hope he can turn it around but I have big doubts.
 

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Only Young was a definite starter out of those all. And that because Shaw/Valencia were injured, underperforming.
Also, De Gea was in godlike form whereas we have the opposite now. That had a massive influence and other teams were shitter back then.
 

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Or just delusional and naive. We won't attract top players if we aren't doing well in the short term.

If we don't fill the holes in our squad and there is a clear digress in performances relegation won't be so far fetched scenario.

The only positive so far for him has been that Maguire, AWB and James clicked(albeit very small sample), apart from that it's simply a disaster.
Spot on. What right players? Right players are anyone that's better than what we have.
If anyone thinks top world class players are going to come to United to be coached by Ole and United being in mid table is being delusional too.
We need world class players to win trophies.
 

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We've had a few bad results with a decimated squad. We are carrying about 4 complete passengers in every game right now. Players who didn't perform under Jose either. Ole didn't sign those useless fecks. He's just stuck with them until he can sign replacements. We have never in my life had such weak squads to chose from going into games. We've about 6 good established players left fit and the rest are either useless or kids. I think our performances are pretty much what you'd expect with what we have to chose from. I didn't expect to beat either West Ham or Newcastle when I saw the squads.

I can tell by the tone of the bolded parts of your post there's probably not too much point in discussing it much further though.
Same here. There's a strange thing on here where most agree players like Mata and Pereira are terrible but still expect us to out play teams that have recently spent £80m+ on their own forward lines (like West Ham and Newcastle). When assessing the quality of lineups the likes of Rashford are massively overrated on here compared to your average PL striker.
 

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It's quite visible what Lampard is trying to do on the pitch - not so Ole. Losing their best player and unable to replace him is a very serious task on one hand. Unable to get 'his type' of players due to transfer ban too.

Last year Hazard accounted for 21 goals and 17 assists - more than anyone else in the team. This is a huge loss and Pulisic is someone for the future, not one that can replace him straight away.

Almost the same set of players finished 2nd 18 months ago which is to suggest they aren't shite as some are making out to be. Also Ole had 150m to reinforce the team. Choosing to spend it all on defence is on him.
Its been 8 PL games for Lampard. Ole had an incredible record in his first 12 PL games. Lets wait and see how he does over a longer period of time before hailing him. He also has a better squad with youngsters with senior football experience.

Yes, they finished second and then had a good run under Ole again last year. If they are fit, they will help us win more games under Ole again. But they are also mentally fragile, prone to lose confidence and have motivational issues. Long term, many of them will have to be replaced if we are ever to win the PL again. Do you disagree?

150m also had 75m going the other way, which has depleted the squad in the short term. Right back was a weak area even under Jose last year, our only other options are an over the hill Young and Dalot.
Our defence conceded 54 goals last season - it was a problem area for us before Ole came along.
Lukaku had made noises to move to italy even under Jose. Ole always claimed a replacement will come in if Lukaku was sold. That it didn’t happen is down to our board and Woodward.
 

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Personally I'd stick with Ole, he has the right idea but crucially needs time. Ole and the team should be doing better I don't dispute this. However, it's this same team (the majority of) that continues to sulk, downing tools and needs clearing out. No manager can change the attitudes of the team until the clearout has occurred.
 
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Really what side are you on. It’s like you know Ole is rubbish but just want to go against the arguments of people telling you how rubbish he is just for a debate.
He's best ignored. He also thinks Moyes should have kept his job. I wouldn't bother mate.
 

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Personally I'd stick with Ole, he has the right idea but crucially needs time. Ole and the team should be doing better I don't dispute this. However, it's this same team (the majority of) that continues to sulk, downing tools and needs clearing out. No manager can change the attitudes of the team until the clearout has occurred.
Has the right idea in what way?
Doesn’t even matter if he does if he’s an awful coach/manager which is the case.
Weve regressed under him & other managers with less time & resources are doing better (lampard & Rogers)

if we had any ambition or pride as a ‘big club’ Ole would’ve been sacked long ago.
 

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Too much emphasis is placed upon the poll results. Some people need to realise that supporting the team and supporting the club's bad decisions are two completely different things.