redshaw
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I'm sure Paul Ince could've done this a lot sooner.First manager in Premier League history to win 4 straight games by a 3 goal margins or more. (So says twitter, have not fact checked it.)
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I'm sure Paul Ince could've done this a lot sooner.First manager in Premier League history to win 4 straight games by a 3 goal margins or more. (So says twitter, have not fact checked it.)
Don't have a dog in this fight, but I'm curious as to how many people would change their mind if, despite great performances from here on out, through bad luck, we miss out on CL qualification (City win appeal, Pogba sent off in EL final, we drop points in 1 game)
Well, that's patently not true considering this run we're now on is the joint-best run we've ever had, post-SAF. And even in terms of quality of opposition, this run contains much sterner opposition.I do. We've not got top 4 secured and we didn't get it last season after an even better run. You don't judge a manager on one-off streaks but on full seasons (albeit this one has been weird).
I am firm in that my opinion will be made based on the table at the end of season. People should stop kneejerking because we're on a roll after being absolutely dire earlier in the season.
One thing that has never been beyond doubt though is his ability to get players on his side and instill positivity in the team. What's really stopping him from getting my full confidence is the lack of proper coaching support and the fact we're still lacking a full team of good players, which is not his fault.
Yep. Jog on pal.As opposed to judging him based on how many smiles he has during an interview?
We should be a club that is used to winning (or were, some people seem to have forgotten). Winning trophies is all about results, if nothing else.
These threads genuinely are a place for kneejerkers of the day to bash people with opinions who are different than theirs.
You should also look up what kneejerk means. There's nothing kneejerk about setting a target at the start of the season and using it as a yardstick to measure achievement at the end of the season.
I had the same thinking when we gave him the permanent job before getting top 4 last year. Making good decisions is about level heads, not emotional kneejerking.
Can only be WUMs!After 17 games unbeaten, looking well situated to make the top four, still in two cup competitions, and the team playing the best football we've seen since the great man was in charge, is there anyone left who still doubts him?
Anyone?
Wum! If you can't see the progress throughout the season or the fact the team will inevitably suffer when missing 3 key players for long periods, then maybe football ain't for you. That's without taking into consideration this season has very much been about transition.I do. We've not got top 4 secured and we didn't get it last season after an even better run. You don't judge a manager on one-off streaks but on full seasons (albeit this one has been weird).
I am firm in that my opinion will be made based on the table at the end of season. People should stop kneejerking because we're on a roll after being absolutely dire earlier in the season.
One thing that has never been beyond doubt though is his ability to get players on his side and instill positivity in the team. What's really stopping him from getting my full confidence is the lack of proper coaching support and the fact we're still lacking a full team of good players, which is not his fault.
Me neither. The fact that a 3rd of the votes still say get rid is a joke.Glad to say I didn’t have to change my vote
Same! Pretty sure someone took a screenshot of the old faithful group.Glad to say I didn’t have to change my vote
People saying your opinions are dumb is not an attack, it’s an opinion. Why would you want to post in a forum that always agreed with you?This place is full of people who genuinely want to talk to others with the same opinion. I do wonder what's the point of going on a forum when you are just looking for confirmation of your world view.
And then you get attacked for having a differing opinion. For those that do it, you can feck off. I won't respond separately because it's genuinely not worth it.
People saying your opinions are dumb is not an attack, it’s an opinion. Why would you want to post in a forum that always agreed with you?
This is so condescending to both Ole and the fans here who backed him, before or now.As opposed to judging him based on how many smiles he has during an interview?
We should be a club that is used to winning (or were, some people seem to have forgotten). Winning trophies is all about results, if nothing else.
These threads genuinelly are a place for kneejerkers of the day to bash people with opinions who are different than theirs.
You should also look up what kneejerk means. There's nothing kneejerk about setting a target at the start of the season and using it as a yardstick to measure achievement at the end of the season.
I had the same thinking when we gave him the permanent job before getting top 4 last year. Making good decisions is about level heads, not emotional kneejerking.
Why have we won the Champions League or the league title?Haven’t heard a peep from the Director of Football hipsters for a while now.
Let's be honest now, the performances were just as bad as the results.Don't understand the people trying to justify sacking him earlier In the season, when to many of us it remained clear that we were making significant progress and were being hampered massively by injuries to our key players. It's not our fault that you chose to focus purely on the results and you should be able to hold your hands up and say clearly I missed something and was wrong. Ole has been a class act and has already given us our most entertaining and exciting season post Fergie in just a year.
Not everyone who voted previously is here to change their votes. I highly doubt that 40% of the caf truly feel this way.All this thread shows now is 40% of the caf are wums.
We most definitely were not.Don't understand the people trying to justify sacking him earlier In the season, when to many of us it remained clear that we were making significant progress and were being hampered massively by injuries to our key players. It's not our fault that you chose to focus purely on the results and you should be able to hold your hands up and say clearly I missed something and was wrong. Ole has been a class act and has already given us our most entertaining and exciting season post Fergie in just a year.
Liverpool could come to OT and win 10-0 with us having Messi and Ronaldo in the team but you'd still be fine with that.We could go to Anfield, win 0-5 with all the goals scored by Academy Grads, and you'd still get some saying we got lucky because Liverpool had an off day, and Ole shouldn't be the Manager anyway because he failed at Cardiff City. RedCafe circa 2020, sad but true.
Maybe my hatred for all things LFC hasn't come across, time to up my gameLiverpool could come to OT and win 10-0 with us having Messi and Ronaldo in the team but you'd still be fine with that.
I'm only kidding mate..Maybe my hatred for all things LFC hasn't come across, time to up my game
The need of an echo chamber these days is realPeople saying your opinions are dumb is not an attack, it’s an opinion. Why would you want to post in a forum that always agreed with you?
Great post. It's strange why most fans don't get this.The difference is that Ole is the first attack minded coach we hired post Fergie and all his decisions regarding long-term planning are centred around a very high risk approach which aligns with the club. I and many others had voiced our disdain at the appointments of Moyes and Mourinho due to their methods which were completely alien to the traditions of the club. And then after many years of naivety from the board we hire a attack minded coach by accident and eventhough I had doubts about him, I can clearly see he's building a team for a specific style which suits a club of our stature going forward.
But appointing a coach with a attacking philosophy should've been done by default post Fergie and we wouldn't have plunged to the depths that we did for several years with £millions being wasted.
Let's hope he gets the tools he desires to complete the transformation which I believe is close.