Lee565
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No considering lingard will go, martial looks like he will be gone and both ronaldo and cavani are not doing us any favours being at the club
I'm amazed you mods don't take down the numerous threads on the usual suspects.Oh good another Rashford thread, it felt like the forum was running a bit low on them.
If you play poorly for years…Not a chance, he’s playing poorly, he’s not a poor player imo.
Not for long if he keeps playing like this.The question is would they Glazers allow him to be sold? The answer is no, he is good for PR and marketing.
It actually goes deeper than this.Ronnie, Cavani, Greenwood all probably going. Add to this Rashford and we need full scale rebuild in that formation.
I'd think about it, if we had elite rivalry in the squad and we don't even got one vital striker.
Hope your right. We seriously need to start being ruthless with getting rid of players who aren’t good enough.Not for long if he keeps playing like this.
The contract issue is a big one. We don't want to be paying huge wages just for commercial value. Might genuinely need to sell.We need to bring in 4-5 players for the new head coach and to do this we have to evaluate what we have available that will generate the required funds.
Rashford has 2 years left on his contract, his value will depreciate from here and we either have to offer him a new improved terms on his 200-250k a week or he will likely folllow the likes of Lingard and Pogba route out of this club in 2024.
Some folks say it's a mentality thing and some it's an effect of injury which burried his physicality. As deep as it goes, so far it looks like no one in the club trying to fix him and the player himself just goes from a game to game like a ghost.It actually goes deeper than this.
We might have Grant, Henderson, Bailly, Jones, Mata, Pogba, Matic, DVB, Martial, Lingard, Ronaldo, Cavani and Greenwood to replace.
Replace in some cases, squad depth or promotion of youth in others.
So yes in reality we'll have to get by with Rashford as way too much work to do and the board are barely capable of 4 total deals across ins and outs in one summer.
It’s been 2 yearsSays a lot about the toxicity of a fanbase when they want rid of someone going through a bad run of form. Despite that same player being one of our few shining lights in seasons past.
One decent run under a counter attacking ole side and several years of crap. Toxicity is having cult fans who support players over the team.Says a lot about the toxicity of a fanbase when they want rid of someone going through a bad run of form. Despite that same player being one of our few shining lights in seasons past.
To be out of form for 2 seasons is a bit much.Says a lot about the toxicity of a fanbase when they want rid of someone going through a bad run of form. Despite that same player being one of our few shining lights in seasons past.
Yes, I get slaughtered often on here slating certain players. But honestly in forty years of supporting the club, I cant think of a side I have had such little belief in individually or as a team and there have been sides with far less talent than thsi one.I would sell half of our players, not just rashford.
This is ridiculous to say when it has been 2 seasons now. At the end of the day, I would not be surprised one bit if he ends up the same way as Danny Welbeck and Tom Cleverley did as guys always lingering in the bottom half of Premier League. If Rashford showed the same kind of fight as Wayne Rooney did while surviving the hype of his own breakthrough, I don't think people would have any serious doubt about him at the moment.Says a lot about the toxicity of a fanbase when they want rid of someone going through a bad run of form. Despite that same player being one of our few shining lights in seasons past.
I agree that it would be bold to let Rashford, Ronaldo, Martial, Lingard and Cavani leave in the Summer; especially with the Greenwood situation.Let's imagine that next season we have no Ronaldo, no Cavani, and no Greenwood. We can't throw selling Rashford into the mix too, because that's simply too much work to do in one window. We would need four new attacking players...there's no way at all we would get that done. That's without looking at centre midfield or the full backs.
In any ordinary year where there was much less work to do, then I would look at moving him on if a good offer came in. Unfortunately, he's not offering enough. He also still hasn't nailed down his definitive position. I'm finding him too frustrating and I'm not convinced that he is going to be able to live up to expectations.
It's a tricky situation due to the contract issue that you mention. That's a whole other issue within this situation that will need to be resolved. It's also a long-running problem that the club has with giving out huge contracts to players, or letting things run, which we could argue about in its own separate thread, too. However, I don't think just getting one striker and one new winger would be anywhere near enough. We would seriously need to be looking at least 3 new recruits, probably four actually in that attacking department. Considering that our recruitment has been very hit and miss over this last decade, we're asking for an awful lot to be done in one window. I'm not confident at all...I agree that it would be bold to let Rashford, Ronaldo, Martial, Lingard and Cavani leave in the Summer; especially with the Greenwood situation.
However I think we need to think about the situation carefully. His contract effectively runs out in 2.5 years which means a couple of things. Firstly if he isn't sold in the summer then he's entering the final year of his contract the following year, which would adversely affect his value. Secondly his next contract will likely be expected by him to be the biggest of his career.
We're in a very similar position with Rashford now compared with Pogba just before Covid. High earning, under-performing player coming up to the supposed peek of their career where they'll be expecting a 5-6 year contract worth somewhere in the region of £100m; but their performances are light years away from their salary. The same arguments were made for keeping Pogba then; and now we're in a position where we've lost out on at least £100m of transfer fees/wages due to a misguided belief that getting rid of him would have weakened us too much. I bet most people here looking back would have sold Pogba for £65m back in January 2020, saved £35m in wages since then and replaced him even if that lead to an element of short term pain.
Even if the aforementioned 5 players left are we really saying given what they're currently bringing to the party that we couldn't find a couple of attackers who would work harder and bring more to the table for the cost? Hell a lad promoted from the academy several months ago on a tenth of his salary has quickly taken his slot and shown him up.
Would going into the season with a new striker, a new winger and Sancho, Bruno, Elanga and maybe Amad be any worse than what we have now (especially if we get a top level holding midfielder as well)? It would certainly send a message that Man Utd doesn't tolerate lazy underperformers irrespective of their name/talent.