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Would you sell Rashford?
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I think it depends on our expectations. Are we expecting a new manager to come in and challenge on 3 fronts, or are we expecting them to come in and steadily improve us for 3 years which will culminate in challenging on three fronts? My view is the latter and I genuinely don't see a lot of the players we have being part of any title winning squad. My view is getting rid of the overpaid and lazy core (Pogba, Martial, Rashford, arguably Ronaldo and Greenwood) is better done sooner rather than later.
In my view the reason we aren't challenging is because we've spent too much time pandering. Martial has had maybe two good seasons in six. Pogba has maybe 5-6 proper games a season. Rashford has had maybe eight great games in 2.5 years. Phil Jones and Bailly are still on the roster. Luke Shaw has relentless fitness/commitment issues that simply shouldn't happen with a six figure salaried weekly professional.
There's a solid argument that not only is the lack of commitment shown by these players affecting there own results/performances; but it's affecting others' as well. A key part of Rashford's progression with United from 18-22 was his effort/energy; did that disappear because he was given £250k a week or was it because top earners like Martial/Pogba/Lukaku strolled around the pitch like we were 15 points clear with 3 games to play? Maybe a combination of both, but how long before Rashford doing the exact same thing poisons Elanga?
Absolutely agree with the bolded, but again I believe putting in the effort required is the first hurdle. He'll never find his form, or consistently put performances in until he works a hell of a lot harder.
In the mean time the likes of Elanga and others like him that haven't yet broken through are seeing him (alongside Pogba/Martial/Shaw) as our highest earners swanning around like superstars whilst performing poorly. Add in Greenwood acting like he has and I think the culture is clearly endemic.
When Fergie arrived he had to stamp out the drinking culture that was harming our prospects. I think we now need to stamp out the overpaid, underperforming, lazy culture that's festered over the last several years.
The question then is can it be stamped out whilst retaining Rashford. I'd hope the answer is yes but with his contract situation and his salary then he needs to prove that damn quickly... As in before the new manager arrives.
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I would give him next season under new manager. If he fails again, then it is time to sell. Talent is there but attitude is not.
Dodging the question
No. If he's playing like he is this time next season, then the club will need to make a decision. However, if he goes back to the Rashford a couple seasons back, then we'd be all kicking ourselves if he was to find his form.
I just think he needs to stop being something he's not. Simplify his game and he'll really benefit.
I just think he needs to stop being something he's not. Simplify his game and he'll really benefit.
He's just massively out of form. He's home grown so I'd give him more time.
It's an easy criticism but I do think his off field activities have derailed him a bit. He just needs to focus on his football.
Clichés are often correct.
It's an easy criticism but I do think his off field activities have derailed him a bit. He just needs to focus on his football.
Clichés are often correct.
Am I under arrest?
100% and if he wasn’t from our youth more people would agree.
His popularity is still high. If we had anything about us we would sell him to PSG and get his agent to promote him as the Mbappe replacement. Win win.
His game seems simple enough as it is.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
Pundits talk as if Rashford is on a bad run and will be back to his 'best' soon. This form has been going on for at least 3 seasons now. Yes, he may have hit 20+ goals in recent seasons, but this really masks his performances which are more often than not, abysmal.
It was the injury last season which was to blame. He can't hide behind that anymore.
He has to stay by default really.
Selling him on top of Ronaldo and Cavani probably leaving and Greenwood disposed gives very few options for final third. Obviously can sign 3-4 but will they all hit the ground running or take six months to get going as Sancho has done?
Selling him on top of Ronaldo and Cavani probably leaving and Greenwood disposed gives very few options for final third. Obviously can sign 3-4 but will they all hit the ground running or take six months to get going as Sancho has done?
Not this time Mr
Sell and break the bank for Vlahovic.
Something’s up with him, probably mental. This is maybe where Sascha Lense can earn his money.
It’s not usually a good idea to sell low unless we think he’s essentially ‘done’ and going to get worse. Ordinarily I’d say to loan him out to regain form/value but, due to the Greenwood situation and Cavani and even possibly Ronaldo leaving, we’re too light in the attacking positions. Plus he’s a proper good lad, local and we need some stability in attack.
Hopefully we’ll see him back to form soon. I don’t think he’ll ever be the player we maybe dreamed of, even as recent as last season. I see him long term as a squad player - Sancho’s backup on the left.
It’s not usually a good idea to sell low unless we think he’s essentially ‘done’ and going to get worse. Ordinarily I’d say to loan him out to regain form/value but, due to the Greenwood situation and Cavani and even possibly Ronaldo leaving, we’re too light in the attacking positions. Plus he’s a proper good lad, local and we need some stability in attack.
Hopefully we’ll see him back to form soon. I don’t think he’ll ever be the player we maybe dreamed of, even as recent as last season. I see him long term as a squad player - Sancho’s backup on the left.
Except this cliche has been used for three years now.
Newcastle will
It depends how much for... 100million, yes.
anything under 70million, nope.
anything under 70million, nope.
Barcelona also buy better players and would have money to sign him.
Rashford is like Pogba, the clubs will only sign him if he is free and does not ask for a very high salary.
I mean top clubs, others of lower rank if they could pay a transfer but I don't think the player wanted to go.
No. definitely not after this season. He deserves to be given a chance to turn it around next season. If he still performs like this....yes
Depends what's wrong with him really. If he's carrying an injury or going through a tough time and we can help him through whatever it is then I'd never sell him as I think he's one of our most important players. If this slump is a symptom of lack of commitment/effort or some sort of permanent injury then I'd absolutely get rid.
Why the F&ck would you sell him right now? At his low? Great business dudes.
Mate, you've just signed a bench player from Wolves that puts up 1 goal and 2 assists per season on loan with buy option because you literally could not afford him.
Because it’s going to get lower.
End of season, at the correct price? Sure.
It would be difficult to say no if a decent offer came in for him.
It's not even just about the performances either. The amount of excuses put out by Rashford's team in the last couple of years and the subsequent lack of interest shown by him this season make me feel he hasn't got the right mentality. He needs to buck his ideas up soon or he'll find himself in a similar situation to his mate Lingard very quickly.
It's not even just about the performances either. The amount of excuses put out by Rashford's team in the last couple of years and the subsequent lack of interest shown by him this season make me feel he hasn't got the right mentality. He needs to buck his ideas up soon or he'll find himself in a similar situation to his mate Lingard very quickly.
Not now as Cavani, Greenwood and Ronaldo’s futures are not clear. But his role now should be that of a squad player rather than a regular starter.
No, he's worth more than Mbappe and I wouldn't want PSG to embarrass us. No way.
I'd bite their hand off for 70m but take 50m.
I'd bite their hand off for 70m but take 50m.
No, he deserves another season and I think we could still keep him next season as backup striker. Imagine losing Greenwood, Ronaldo, Cavani, and Rashford. It's too much.
For the right price, I'd sell anyone. He's not good enough to be irreplaceable, so yes. For the right price and with a replacement lined up - absolutely.
Yes and we should promote an youngster for his place. He looks disinterested and lost love with the sport.
If we were going to sell players when they have a drop in form then there is going to be a flood of threads as stupid as this one!
Don’t watch real football just play FPL and you can do as many transfers as you want.
Don’t watch real football just play FPL and you can do as many transfers as you want.
It's not a drop in form, it's been two years.
It's not like he's been consistently world class for 5 years either, he's all image and stats.
Same was said about Big Dave last season and how is he doing??
Same shit was said about Luke two years ago and he rebounded with form good enough to win his England spot back.
It is a pointless thread.
It is not the same for 'Luke' and Rashford. They've been 'good' for a limited time (especially Shaw) in a period where we've won nothing.
De Gea was good for years i.e 5 years or more, as I've referred in my post. This is some serious false equivalence you're using.
Well which player has been good for a lengthy period of time in the current squad because in my opinion it is only Bruno and Big Dave so if we are going to sell Rashford then the rest should go on the market!
See........a pointless thread.
Asking for 70 million for a player whose putting out gutter level performances
Rashford has played well for us over the years but given he's been shit for a long time, that's an absurd valuation
F. Torres it cost €55M and the money available will be to try to sign Haaland who is much more expensive than Rashford.