Ask the fans or players either at Bari, Siena, Juve or Inter. I think they in unison would disagree strongly. Maybe some Chelsea-fans would agree? I’m not to sure. He did win the two biggest english titles during his two seasons there.
And Dortmund.
Ok I'm convinced - and he actually wants the job!
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What's funny to me is that their desire for a "yes man" has made them spent half a billion over 3 years, but they wouldn't appoint a guy who's made great teams on a modest budget... Genius level of club management right there
I can see “Can a loss be win “ thread popping up in next few days if this is true.
I swear. Even Mourinho lost that kind of mojo when he was with us; he was definitely not the same guy who ran like a madman after a late equalizer for Porto.
Agreed on both Rudiger & a DM.
Jesus, what's this nonsense? When have we played attractive football under Ole or even had any youth development? We have a great batch of youth players that haven't even seen the light of day since he was appointed. Has anyone watched Conte at Juve, Inter and Chelsea? He plays a more attractive football than Ole wishes he could in his dreams. Sit back and let the lads enjoy themselves is not a recipe for an "'attractive" football.
100%
Like I said. I think Ole has sold them the idea that they club should follow the United Way. Whether he himself does it or not wasn't in mentioned in my post
And then when he's caused chaos and fecked off in 2 years time we'll be back to where we were when Mourinho left. The press will be writing their articles about the club having no long term vision or plan, which I'm sure most people in this thread will be lapping up. He's a great coach, no doubt, but he also plays a brand of football which is pretty much unique at the top level so wouldn't fit into any long term planning at any club.
That won't be on him though. He is not going to be a bootlicking worm.
Ugh, I promised myself I'd never wish for us to lose, but I'd be annoyed if we scrape a few lucky wins against shit teams and that's secured Ole the rest of the season for us to waste. Death by a thousand cuts indeed.
If this is true then what the feck are we waiting for??? Ten Hag?
Long term planning doesn’t mean we should accept mediocrity. Top flight football is result oriented business and Ole had 3 years already. This notion that Conte leaves the club in bad shape is not true at all.
Basically, if I understand it correctly, the board wants their proper "Yes Man" that wouldn't really muddy the structure, would keep the mates at their comfy jobs and be a nice distraction from the Glazers. Poch and Rodgers are good candidates for that scenario. Poch, in particular, had a good relationship with Levy despite many people saying he wasn't backed enough during his time there.
It's not even remotely true. Chelsea were left in a good position, many of his signings led the way. Inter are challenging for the title, same scenario. And finally we get Juve where most of his signings led them to nine straight Scudetto's. Even if the guy resigns over disputes with the board, one thing that Conte is very good at is getting the right signings. He won't leave the club with dross like Mata, Baily, Darmian or whatever. His signings are generally top notch.
That's some astonishing claim he won't fit long term at any club. He just not there for being yes man at any club. He demanded good things for his club he was managing. Your club need a big character to manage your bigger players. He is perfect fit for your club after saf in my opinion.
. Only few could command respect from these players and conte among them. Not some rookies.Ole's biggest con, convincing the United board that he's anything more than a chequebook manager.
You only hear long term vision from the likes of Arsenal or Barcelona right now. The point is i think long term vision only applies to when a team needs a squad overhaul or rebuild. Thankfully we don't need that as Ole has helped rebuild the squad to one that can challenge for titles. We've got a squad filled with players in their prime that should be winning trophies for the next 2 years at least. So we need a coach that can make good use of those two or three years. That's where Conte comes in.
Nah. Barca are gonna figure out things very fast.
Yeah, it’s laughable. Wasting a year to get Rodgers or Poch, when a better manager, who actually win titles, is available right now is beyond stupidity.
Barca sack managers left and right, even when they're performing like Valverde did. Once they get their finances in order, they'll be good to go. While we have everything and we're still monumentally held back by bad management.
What does long term planning means ? From the club it seems to be an eternal wait to win something. Doesn’t matter, we have a long term planning, who needs trophies heh ?
I don’t remember when Poch played good football by the way…
Something that only United knows, apparently. Is there a top club with long-term planning? The only one I can think off was City and only in regards to Pep. Liverpool went through managers and hit on Klopp when he was available. It's not because they wanted to play gegenpress, it's because he was a quality manager and he was available. Chelsea went through a plethora of different managers and found success in that. Some weren't, some were. They struck gold with Tuchel. Madrid went the same way through variety of managers. Some were good, some not, but once again - they stuck gold with Zidane. We have Bayern who also sack managers left and right. They went from LVG, to Heynckes to Pep, to Flick to Nagelsmann, all with very different styles of play. Between them they hired managers like Ancelotti, Kovac etc. They found huge success with some of their managers, others were underwhelming. If a manager didn't work, they quickly sacked him. Barcelona only stuck with Koeman because of their financial situation. They, too, before that, sacked managers at the first sign of them underperforming.
Conte has never been in control of transfers, italian clubs don't operate like that and the same applies to Chelsea. At Juventus the people in control were Paratici and Marotta, at Chelsea it was Granovskaia and at Inter Marotta again. Out of all the managers that you listed he is the one that is used to the least power since PL managers are generally given more room for inputs.
That was just my assumption for why the club wouldn't want him. Even we didn't give Mourinho full control or listen to his demands all the time but he wanted it and he threw a tantrum when he didn't get it which is what Conte does too so I can see the club reluctant to work with that kind of manager
