Gaming Xbox Series X|S

[Alock1]

Only showing stuff coming in the next 12 months was a mistake.

Yeah soon as they said that, I knew it wasn't living up to the expectations of all those leaks. We know that h2 this year is basically empty.

Lots have criticised them in the past for showing things way in advance, so understandable I guess, especially since they can't keep to their timelines (ie. if they showed something like Avowed slated for Holiday 2023, and then push it into 2024 like Starfield, they showed their cards too early).

 

[Alock1]

There are worse names but I kinda see what you mean. I agree about Kojima but he's still a big get.

Yeah a big get but not necessarily a good get, imo.

MS are quite protective over the brand, and he will want creative power, so I'm not even sure it'll work out that well. Let's see.

 

[Damien]

Only showing stuff coming in the next 12 months was a mistake.

Think Phil took the criticism of last year/the year before's conferences to heart from what Grubb said with all the talk of logo reveals/CGI for stuff that is years away so wanted to keep this recent.

Looks like a lot of filler but in 40 minutes time we'll probably be talking about how it is the greatest Xbox conference ever due to the stuff they're closing the show with.

 

[Redlambs]

What exactly do you mean? Most of the show has been gameplay? Or is the issue that it's gameplay clips cut together?

Pre-canned means basically pre-rendered in a way. Not quite, but captured in engine with all the settings turned up to max and set pathways to follow, set events. Some of the animations have been raw motion capture too, it's an age old trick that is so obvious on the eye.

There's not been much actual captured gameplay, especially not in the games I've specifically been pointing this out on.

 

[Redlambs]

Think Phil took the criticism of last year/the year before's conferences to heart from what Grubb said with all the talk of logo reveals/CGI for stuff that is years away so wanted to keep this recent.

Looks like a lot of filler but in 40 minutes time we'll probably be talking about how it is the greatest Xbox conference ever due to the stuff they're closing the show with.

Ok Locky, we are on to you!

 

[Redlambs]

Grounded full release?

 

[Alock1]

To be fair, the greatest Xbox showcase isn't actually that high a bar even i'll admit that

Do think some of their shows have been judged harshly by people here but they were always B at best (and often C)

 

[Alock1]

Grounded full release?

Actually a decent game.

 

[Redlambs]

Not played in a while, but it was fun early on.

 

[hobbers]

Hopefully this time it'll have content.

 

[afrocentricity]

To be fair, the greatest Xbox showcase isn't actually that high a bar even i'll admit that

Do think some of their shows have been judged harshly by people here but they were always B at best (and often C)

They had good/decent conferences 360, and early One era.

 

[Redlambs]

Oooh, I know what this is. I hope it's as good as I've heard.

 

[Redlambs]

Hopefully this time it'll have content.

Yup.

Great idea, no content.

 

[Alock1]

With gamepass it does flip how you view the showcase entirely.

For people who don't have it, you just look at most of these games and they're okay but not enough for you to buy a whole new console and subscription, so you aren't gonna care or take note. Pure filler.

If you have gamepass and like me, download and love trying every game that comes to the platform with no intention of ever completing them, you're pretty leaned in and can definitely appreciate quantity even without complete quality.

 

[DixieDean]

They had good/decent conferences 360, and early One era.

Last Year's was fantastic! Much better than this.

 

[Alock1]

Also, if it's just stuff for the past 12 months, there can't be much more 1p stuff coming in the next 30 minutes. Diablo 4 (soon 1p) and Starfield.

Likes of Avowed, Hellblade 2, Contraband, Fable, Perfect Dark, Everwild etc. won't be getting shown. So don't think there's going to be tons here in this next 30. Starfield may well take 10+ minutes.

 

[Redlambs]

They had good/decent conferences 360, and early One era.

I've been at some blinding ECTS and E3's from them.

But even back then, we all knew the "new year, new console, new us!" stuff was a bit eye rolling.

 

[Balljy]

With gamepass it does flip how you view the showcase entirely.

For people who don't have it, you just look at most of these games and they're okay but not enough for you to buy a whole new console and subscription, so you aren't gonna care or take note. Pure filler.

If you have gamepass and like me, download and love trying every game that comes to the platform with no intention of ever completing them, you're pretty leaned in and can definitely appreciate quantity even without complete quality.

Or you can be like me and get Game Pass, try loads of stuff but always end up going back to and putting hundreds of hours into FM2022 on GP

 

[Redlambs]

With gamepass it does flip how you view the showcase entirely.

For people who don't have it, you just look at most of these games and they're okay but not enough for you to buy a whole new console and subscription, so you aren't gonna care or take note. Pure filler.

If you have gamepass and like me, download and love trying every game that comes to the platform with no intention of ever completing them, you're pretty leaned in and can definitely appreciate quantity even without complete quality.

Maybe.

But then it's not what gaming has always been about, that's the Netflix method of throwing lots of shit.

It only works if you have the odd Diamonds to supplement the gold.

 

[Ainu]

With gamepass it does flip how you view the showcase entirely.

For people who don't have it, you just look at most of these games and they're okay but not enough for you to buy a whole new console and subscription, so you aren't gonna care or take note. Pure filler.

If you have gamepass and like me, download and love trying every game that comes to the platform with no intention of ever completing them, you're pretty leaned in and can definitely appreciate quantity even without complete quality.

See I really don't get this. I do subscribe to Game Pass but filler is still filler, I really don't get any more excited by it because I get to try it for free. My greatest fear about services like Game Pass is that it will make people accept mediocrity.

 

[Fully Fledged]

If this is game pass it will be huge.

 

[Reditus]

Not much in the show so far for me. But a decent variety

Wasn’t quite expecting obsidians game to look like what it did….

 

[Reditus]

If this is game pass it will be huge.

Think everything on this show is gamepass

 

[Redlambs]

See I really don't get this. I do subscribe to Game Pass but filler is still filler, I really don't get any more excited by it because I get to try it for free. My greatest fear about services like Game Pass is that it will make people accept mediocrity.

Good point.

And it also doesn't cater to people like me who already has played most of those games. The future generations will be even worse for it too, no way the GP stays in it's current state at it's current price. Something has got to give, and as we are seeing with Netflix, it will give sooner than they predicted.

 

[afrocentricity]

Maybe.

But then it's not what gaming has always been about, that's the Netflix method of throwing lots of shit.

It only works if you have the odd Diamonds to supplement the gold.

And shit loads of spare time on your hands... Honestly, I don't have the time to try and find the diamonds.

 

[Fully Fledged]

Think everything on this show is gamepass

Diablo is one of the games I played since it's conception.

 

[DixieDean]

I don't like this showcase, at all. One of Xbox's worst.

 

[Redlambs]

Not much in the show so far for me.

You always this much fun?

 

[hobbers]

This is a poor man's V Rising.

 

[altodevil]

Not game pass

 

[Damien]

Games coming to PC/Xbox over the next 12 months have been leaked:

Spoiler: actual image

Persona 3 Portable, ouch.

 

[Redlambs]

And shit loads of spare time on your hands... Honestly, I don't have the time to try and find the diamonds.

It's in danger already of being like the likes of Netflix, Apple/Android stores in that it's not easy to see the gems. And you can't trust people online about it.

 

[Alock1]

Maybe.

But then it's not what gaming has always been about, that's the Netflix method of throwing lots of shit.

It only works if you have the odd Diamonds to supplement the gold.

Last year I felt like they did that with Psychonauts, Flight Sim, Forza Horizon 5 and Halo Infinite. All 4 were very good-great as far as I'm concerned. Shame they couldn't keep that up this year.

 

[Redlambs]

@Alock1 Here you go

 

[afrocentricity]

I don't like this showcase, at all. One of Xbox's worst.

No hype no energy. I'm even missing the "world premier!" exclamation from past shows. Still, if Starfield looks good...

 

[Redlambs]

This is what will bring me back.

Though I'm still going to rage at the hit reg. Who wants in on the crew?

 

[hobbers]

Yuck

 

[Alock1]

See I really don't get this. I do subscribe to Game Pass but filler is still filler, I really don't get any more excited by it because I get to try it for free. My greatest fear about services like Game Pass is that it will make people accept mediocrity.

As long as there is A+ games in there too, then a place where B tier games can live in this era is great. But yes, they need to supplement with top tier games too. Not everything can be B tier.

 

[Redlambs]

Yuck

 

[Alock1]

Was Diablo 4 gamepass? Missed the end of it.