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The only film he directed from that list is Chicago 7.A few good men, social network, moneyball, Chicago 7, mollys game and I think Steve jobbs.
Sorkin is primarily a writer
The only film he directed from that list is Chicago 7.A few good men, social network, moneyball, Chicago 7, mollys game and I think Steve jobbs.
You're right I mainly named movies he's writtenThe only film he directed from that list is Chicago 7.
Sorkin is primarily a writer![]()
I dont think his films have aged well. Bar Touch of Evil.David Lynch,
Orson Welles, (Unless I'm wrong I havent seen him mentioned in here which is an absolute travesty...)
Guillermo Del Toro
Really?I dont think his films have aged well. Bar Touch of Evil.
Personally i got a better movie experience out of watching Hitchcock than Welles.
He revolutionalized cinema. No question. But films have evolved themselves. Every film now is using what Welles invented.Really?
Citizen Kane pratically invented several modern cinema traits, and is consistently heralded as the greatest and most influential films of all time, for that alone Welles deserves to be there for me.
His use of cinematography, deep focus, complete sets, broken narrative structures across all his pieces (including unfinished works) are highly influential even to this day and he has been consistently heralded as the greatest director of all time.
All highly subjective of course, but the fact that no one seems to hvae mentioned him really is surprising considering his legacy and influence.
Indeed they can, as can people when they watch Welle's films, again it's subjective.He revolutionalized cinema. No question. But films have evolved themselves. Every film now is using what Welles invented.
I have talked to so many people who say the same. Citizen Kane is good in the sense of what Welles invented. But not a terrific film to watch. I just dont think it has aged well, unlike say Hitchcocks films. People can still watch Hitchcocks films today and get a thrill out of them.
This is my favorite Orson Welles role.
which is probably the best film of the decade for me.The only film he directed from that list is Chicago 7.
Well, 2020's has only lasted for less than 2 yearswhich is probably the best film of the decade for me.
I meant the last decade. This decade started in 2021.Well, 2020's has only lasted for less than 2 years
I thought it was OK, but then again I'm not the biggest fan of Sorkin's writing.
Is that really how it works? By that logic, a movie that came out in 1990 would be considered an 80's movie!This decade started in 2021.
Yeah.Is that really how it works? By that logic, a movie that came out in 1990 would be considered an 80's movie!
You're wrong.David Lynch,
Orson Welles, (Unless I'm wrong I havent seen him mentioned in here which is an absolute travesty...)
Guillermo Del Toro
In response to this:I don't know what my top 3 would look like, but I really like directors like Francis Ford Coppola, Orson Welles, Alfred Hitchcock, Fritz Lang, Akira Kurosawa, Billy Wilder, Sergio Leone - and others I'm forgetting. It's hard to say though. I don't know everybody's work well enough (Wilder's and Leone's inclusion is based on a pretty small sample), and I'm not always sufficiently aware of directors of older films.
I don't suppose you're arguing against other people's choices. But from my perspective: even if Welles's films were completely unwatchable today, if you know and acknowledge his influence, you could still put him in your top x, depending on how you define 'top'. (Me, I also actually really enjoyed his films that I saw - except The Other Side Of The World. Horrible. I hope it's not what he intended with it!)He revolutionalized cinema. No question. But films have evolved themselves. Every film now is using what Welles invented.
I have talked to so many people who say the same. Citizen Kane is good in the sense of what Welles invented. But not a terrific film to watch. I just dont think it has aged well, unlike say Hitchcocks films. People can still watch Hitchcocks films today and get a thrill out of them.
He told me to post Kaurismäki and Björn Borg.@R.N7 is lurking here and carving names into bullets.
Good player on his day but he's getting on a bit now. Injured a lot too.Any Antonioni fans?
I stand corrected, glad he's got a mentionYou're wrong. :-)
In response to this:
I don't suppose you're arguing against other people's choices. But from my perspective: even if Welles's films were completely unwatchable today, if you know and acknowledge his influence, you could still put him in your top x, depending on how you define 'top'. (Me, I also actually really enjoyed his films that I saw - except The Other Side Of The World. Horrible. I hope it's not what he intended with it!)
What's a movie or two from each of these that you recommend starting with?To give a real answer, three filmmakers I've continued to enjoy and for who I've actually watched their movies several times over:
Kitano (like his absurdist and cynical humour)
Wong Kar Wai (like his tragic and sometimes cynical romances)
Sang-soo (like his misguided and usually cynical characters)
Three filmmakers I'd say are high but I've not really re-watched their stuff:
Chang-dong
Rivette
Ming-liang
I think Chungking Express for Wong Kar Kai. If you like it then you'll probably like his other stuff. A young Quenty Tarantino gives a good breakdown:What's a movie or two from each of these that you recommend starting with?