Yeah they're different players and that's my point really.
We should be looking at the guys who can really pass the ball.
Yves Bissouma / Signs for Spurs
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We should be looking at the guys who can really pass the ball.
Never mind the case, I don’t want us to sign any midfielders that aren’t top notch on the ball this summer.
there are too many other needs in the squad to sign another B2B midfielder as an upgrade to Fred, in my opinion.
we need a specialist DM to replace Matic and a CM to replace pogba
Bissouma is neither
there are too many other needs in the squad to sign another B2B midfielder as an upgrade to Fred, in my opinion.
we need a specialist DM to replace Matic and a CM to replace pogba
Bissouma is neither
For me, he's the kind of player a top club would look to have in their rotation, and if he shines when he gets his chances, great, but if not, he's cover that doesn't have the midfield plummet when a 1st teamer is out.
If he's a starter as he currently is, you're not aiming for the top prizes, rather the Europa and a decent cup run.
Bissouma is certainly good enough but he has some off-the-field issues. We don’t want another Greenwood. Avoid until he is cleared of all wrongdoing.
Bissouma is a lot better on the ball than any CM we currently have. Brighton outpossess most teams and he's a big part of that.
Shouldn't touch him with a barge pole.
Some of the implied ‘he might be cheaper if he did it’ in this thread makes for uncomfortable reading.
We need players of the right calibre, but also the right character. As others have said don’t buy in problems, we have enough.
Steer well clear.
We need players of the right calibre, but also the right character. As others have said don’t buy in problems, we have enough.
Steer well clear.
I'd stay away from him as a signing. I know what people say he is better than what we have, I mean every midfielder we have played against this season is better than what we have.
Better than we have should not be a criteria to sign a CM. We need a top quality midfielder that wont need replacing if we get better.
Better than we have should not be a criteria to sign a CM. We need a top quality midfielder that wont need replacing if we get better.
Yeah I mean, don't get me wrong, I'd trade him for all our midfielders combined
If he was cheap and hasn't done anything wrong in his case I'd say its a good option - but no idea if that will be the case or not
Bissouma is not bad on the ball, at all and his other qualities are much more what we need that Neves. We don’t have a single ball winner in our midfield
Innocent until proven guilty is a principle of criminal law and applies to courts. Actual false accusations of sexual assault/rape are negligible statistically speaking. “The case being closed is enough” isn’t a great stance considering rich people obviously get away with things ordinary people can’t.
Obviously I don't know any details of the case - I can only go by recent examples.Yeah I mean, don't get me wrong, I'd trade him for all our midfielders combined
If he was cheap and hasn't done anything wrong in his case I'd say its a good option - but no idea if that will be the case or not
Look at how Mendy and Greenwood have been dealt with and compare it to Bissouma. I would assume Bissouma isn't actually in any major trouble and only part of the investigation.
Surely if he was he would have been sidelined a long time ago. AFAIK nobody even talks in the football world like he's in any form of trouble?
I could be very wrong, but sexual assault/rape is a very serious crime and I doubt Brighton would want him anywhere near the team if he was under serious suspicion IMO.
Think you’re underestimating how scummy the football world actually is. Madrid and Juve had no problem with Ronaldo banging in 50 goals a season despite leaked documents looking very damning.
The Ronaldo case isn't really a clearcut one. We will never know whether it was consentual sex or a forced upon rape.
I don't know many details about the Bissouma case but I don't believe they are similar at all.
City played Mendy when they knew he was being seriously investigated. I wonder what United knew about Greenwood before, it was the public video that made playing him untenable. I wouldn’t trust football clubs as the adjudicators of this kind of thing.
Fair points - but this Bissouma thing has been going on quite a while now compared to those 2 cases?
Anyway, not much point speculating until we get further details.
I mean you can never be 100% sure but it doesn’t look good at all. The fact that he hasn’t sued the paper who published those documents isn’t very encouraging because something that defamatory would surely have angered him to the point of ruining them if it was fake.
At that point it just keeps it in the news though right? sometimes it's better just to kill it and move on. Hence why he made the payment to keep it out the courts. What's 500k to Ronaldo compared to being dragged through a month long public US court debate?. Look at the Depp v Heard situation.
De Speigel hasn't effected his reputation in the grand scheme in the slighest, so I doubt he will be that bothered.
Sorry can't get your point. Some rich people get away with stuff, so what?
We can only go by what we have. If there is no case hanging over him we have to move on. What stance do you have? That an investigated player even if the case was closed shouldnt play pro football again unless he can be somehow be proven innocent?
Ronaldo's case was simply dismissed. Yet here he is playing for us without much ado.
The point is that false accusations of sex crimes are actually very rare. That’s a fact. That makes me inclined to believe accusers of sex crimes. And the fact that you’re happy to simply absolve Ronaldo because “his case was dismissed” says it all, there’s a mountain of publicly available evidence against him.
How have I absolved him of anything. Your point bolded has nothing to do with the one I was making so let's leave it at that.
I think his background is going to hinder a move for him, but as a CM hes very good and I would have thought we may have gone in for him last summer? With the new manager coming in he has different ideas to who he needs or wants.
I wouldn't grumble if we did sign him .
I wouldn't grumble if we did sign him .
And a sexual allegation
Like clockwork
We should just change the thread title to yves (sexual allegations) bissouma at this point
Chelsea have pivoted from Tchouameni to Bissouma it seems. Valued at around £30m apparently
Weren't Villa in for him as well?
Thought Spurs were leading the race. Always thought he screamed Liverpool.
No idea to be honest. Don't really any club should be going anywhere near him while the sexual assault case is still pending.
He's a great Tchouameni/Rice alternative. A lot cheaper, but yeah while he's still got a case against him pending, it'll probably wise to steer clear of him.
He’s a class player. Rare midfielder in that he fits both traditional CM profiles, ans can thus fit into different tactical approaches. He’s graceful enough that he can play Barcelona (or Brighton!) football, and is also your traditional ‘we need a DM’ ball winner and presser.
He’s no poor consolation to Tchouameni at all to me. And yes Geebs, I’ve read the news.
He’s no poor consolation to Tchouameni at all to me. And yes Geebs, I’ve read the news.
You’re running late!
I’ve been pining after him for years. He’s class.
I don't actually think he's a poor consolation either. He's a superb alternative. Might even the smarter move given how much cheaper he seems to be compared to Tchouameni and Rice.
Indeed.
Just offer120 on Bissouma, Lamptey and Cucurella.
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