UK Riots (with the exception of Manchester which has its own thread)

I am sorry but I am not having that.

The Police have to respond. It is not a matter of choice. How long it takes for them to do so can depend on a number of things, usually the amount of other ongoing incidents which may take p residence and the amount of resources available.

If the incident was graded one, then from the call being made and the job being resourced, Police must sit rep within 15 minutes.

People who moan about shit like this should be the first to be complaining at the government for the brutal cuts being made to the Police Service.

Can't work miracles I'm afraid.

Mrs.Dinnegan told us she she made the call before they got to my estate. You can give all the jargon you want for some one that experienced it I can tell you that is how it happened whether you choose to believe it or not isn't my concern. Not like you believing will bring my boy back
 
In all fairness if you are stabbed twenty times you could be dead within seconds. Instead of blaming the police you might want to look at the people of your own community, which probably include the twenty thugs that killed him.

In all fairness calls were made to the police before they got to my estate, they shouldn't have made it from where they linked up to my estate.
 
Mrs.Dinnegan told us she she made the call before they got to my estate. You can give all the jargon you want for some one that experienced it I can tell you that is how it happened whether you choose to believe it or not isn't my concern. Not like you believing will bring my boy back

Sorry if it comes across as insensitive but you didn't experience it, you're just going on what you've been told.

You're ok with pointing the finger at the cops but you dont even know the time frames involved.

Maybe they could've been quicker, at the same time did the 20 masked men just stroll away without anyone seeing where they went? Have witnesses come forward?
 
WTF as PC World got to do with the shooting of Mark Duggan ,some saw it as an opportunity for some early christmas shopping.There is also an eye witness that said that they burnt down the job center ffs.
 
People wonder why there is so much resentment towards the police?

what annoys me is that these people with so much resentment to the police are the same idiots who set the cars on fire and then call up later on pleading for help, can't have it both ways you either want to work with the police and help them or work against them

I am sorry but I am not having that.

The Police have to respond. It is not a matter of choice. How long it takes for them to do so can depend on a number of things, usually the amount of other ongoing incidents which may take p residence and the amount of resources available.

If the incident was graded one, then from the call being made and the job being resourced, Police must sit rep within 15 minutes.

People who moan about shit like this should be the first to be complaining at the government for the brutal cuts being made to the Police Service.

Can't work miracles I'm afraid.

nail on head, people clearly don't realise just how busy and how cuts affect the emergency services, as horrible as it is when the government makes cuts we can't magic resources out of nowhere, so the resources come depleted but the demand does not go down. you can't work miracles

Mrs.Dinnegan told us she she made the call before they got to my estate. You can give all the jargon you want for some one that experienced it I can tell you that is how it happened whether you choose to believe it or not isn't my concern. Not like you believing will bring my boy back

i don't mean to sound like a prick, horrible as it is and i feel sorry for his loss but how have you experienced it? from what i have gathered so far you are just going off what someone else has said

Sorry if it comes across as insensitive but you didn't experience it, you're just going on what you've been told.

You're ok with pointing the finger at the cops but you dont even know the time frames involved.

Maybe they could've been quicker, at the same time did the 20 masked men just stroll away without anyone seeing where they went? Have witnesses come forward?

this, happy to take someones word and automatically point the finger at the police without knowing the full details, it's just as frustrating for police working to try and stop this kind of thing, do you really think they don't want to respond as soon as possible? but like i said before you can't magic resources that you don't have and the public pay the price of the cuts

on another note though tottenham is a just a bit rough no? more tax payers money flushed down the shitter clearing that mess up :rolleyes:
 
North London is getting pretty notorious these days. I know to stay away from those parts, especially at night. As for the guy that was shot dead, I would assume the police acted in self defence.

Watching Sky News, I hear it seems like some of these people may be using the riot as a way to express their feelings about the policing in the area. They feel they are targeted, stereotyped and persecuted far too much. Either way there's no excuse for causing warfare in the streets. The twats are attacking vehicles, buildings and even camera crews! WTF?

The obvious thing to do when you feel you are being incorrectly treated like that is to attack the police, set stuff on fire and generally cause shitloads of damage. fecking idiots.
 
Just reading about the original incident involving Mr Duggan.

He shoots at a cop and then is killed, yet people have spun in that the Police held him down and shot him. Dear me. Why is there a cop in hospital with gunshot wounds, and a Police radio with a bullet lodged into it?

Some people really are thick. Any excuse.
 
Just reading about the original incident involving Mr Duggan.

He shoots at a cop and then is killed, yet people have spun in that the Police held him down and shot him. Dear me. Why is there a cop in hospital with gunshot wounds, and a Police radio with a bullet lodged into it?

Some people really are thick. Any excuse.

Probably should wait until the investigation before we claim to know what happened.
 
Why did the police need to kill the man anyway? Surely they could have shot him in a place which would neutralise him as a threat but not kill him?
 
Why did the police need to kill the man anyway? Surely they could have shot him in a place which would neutralise him as a threat but not kill him?

feck sake Elvis this isn't an episode of 22 or whatever you call it, there is no Jack Hauer in real life.
 
WTF as PC World got to do with the shooting of Mark Duggan ,some saw it as an opportunity for some early christmas shopping.There is also an eye witness that said that they burnt down the job center ffs.

I can see the people cheering as it went up in flames, only to suddenly realise they wont have anywhere to sign on in the morning, and i remember from personal experience, they will use any reason to shut down your claim, so the whole "theres no fecking job center" aint going to work.
 
I can see the people cheering as it went up in flames, only to suddenly realise they wont have anywhere to sign on in the morning, and i remember from personal experience, they will use any reason to shut down your claim, so the whole "theres no fecking job center" aint going to work.

:lol:

No, the one who was captured and had seven hollow-point bullets fired into his head on a London Underground train.

By Metropolitan Police Officers in July 2005.

I must have missed that part of the investigation
 
That's all a bit mad. Expect more and more social unrest as the recession really starts to bite (cue TBGB to wade in and point out that the Uk isn't in recession and his mate David has it all in hand)


Anybody who gets involved in riots, threatening bystanders, deserve nothing but a place in a cell, people need to remember the meaning of stoicism.

Any excuse for unfounded partisan attacks obviously.
 
Apparently it's spread to Wood Green and is spreading towards Enfield too...
 
Why did the police need to kill the man anyway? Surely they could have shot him in a place which would neutralise him as a threat but not kill him?

So lets say we play your scenario out then:

Suspect fires a round toward police. They respond by shooting him in the shoulder and leg but his finger is still on the trigger. He falls and has he hits the ground his gun discharges skyward killing a five year old child 600 feet away.

Bottom line is you shoot at the kill zone, and it wouldn't just be one police officer it would probably be three or four simultaneously.
 
Apparently it's spread to Wood Green and is spreading towards Enfield too...

yep, they are also expecting it to kick off again in tottenham tonight. i have had texts from work pleading for people to go in on overtime, no way in hell will i be going in there tonight
 
So lets say we play your scenario out then:

Suspect fires a round toward police. They respond by shooting him in the shoulder and leg but his finger is still on the trigger. He falls and has he hits the ground his gun discharges skyward killing a five year old child 600 feet away.

Bottom line is you shoot at the kill zone, and it wouldn't just be one police officer it would probably be three or four simultaneously.

What if the child was Adolf Hitler, wouldn't that be a good thing?
 
Lot of crap being talked about Tottenham and Haringey in this thread

There's hardly any bit of Tottenham I haven't walked through at night, including Broadwater Farm, loads of times. There are parts that can get a bit rough like in most areas of London, but as long as you're not in a gang you're usually alright.

A lot of Haringey's completely gentrified.
 
I live about 10 minutes away from where it happened last night and now apparently they're doing it over my local town. They robbed the Subway of all places, set fire to the McDonalds and T-Mobile shops and robbed TK Maxx. Basically robbed the worst places.
 
I live about 10 minutes away from where it happened last night and now apparently they're doing it over my local town. They robbed the Subway of all places, set fire to the McDonalds and T-Mobile shops and robbed TK Maxx. Basically robbed the worst places.


In Wood Green? Bloody looters...
 
Some guys I was speaking to was saying that it all kicked off when some people wanted to lay flowers and other memorial stuff where the incident took place, but the police wasn't allowing it and what not. Probably bs...
 
Rioting in Enfield or a grop of hooded scarfed thugs just vandalising?
 
That's all on the Sky News ticker about 30 mins ago. Don't know anything else.