I said Jones will be the best signing we'd make this season. I'll stick with my prediction.
Our best young player?
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Chris Smalling, Ravel Morrison, Phil Jones.
Jones is unexpectedly turning out amazing straight off, but I'm still in love with Smalling, who is just mental. He's played an array of positions for us, looking better than the last in each one. I don't think he has the presence of Jones, but he reminds me so much of Rio in his temperament, calmness on the ball and reading of play. Going forward, I don't even know what do say.
Ravel Morrison is one of the most exciting talents I've ever seen, without a doubt. For the leaps and bounds Smalling and Jones have made, I can't help but feel more excited about the potential of this lad, I just hope he can leave the issues he's had before behind him and focus entirely on his career here, and he will be a very special player. Pogba as well is an awesome talent, but Morrison for an 18 year old is just scary.
Phil Jones, obviously there's not much needed to be said on him, another incredible talent, and defies belief that he is only 19.
Jones is unexpectedly turning out amazing straight off, but I'm still in love with Smalling, who is just mental. He's played an array of positions for us, looking better than the last in each one. I don't think he has the presence of Jones, but he reminds me so much of Rio in his temperament, calmness on the ball and reading of play. Going forward, I don't even know what do say.
Ravel Morrison is one of the most exciting talents I've ever seen, without a doubt. For the leaps and bounds Smalling and Jones have made, I can't help but feel more excited about the potential of this lad, I just hope he can leave the issues he's had before behind him and focus entirely on his career here, and he will be a very special player. Pogba as well is an awesome talent, but Morrison for an 18 year old is just scary.
Phil Jones, obviously there's not much needed to be said on him, another incredible talent, and defies belief that he is only 19.
Indeed, we're going to be spoilt in a few years in midfield thats for sure!
Is Morrisson actually THAT good? (Not a sarcastic question)
I've seen a fair few reserve games and he's looked promising without blowing me away. I certainly thought Pogba looked the better player though.
and Young is hardly a bad signing either.
I've seen a fair few reserve games and he's looked promising without blowing me away. I certainly thought Pogba looked the better player though.
Him and De Gea equally for me. it's just that the latter hasn't made the same impact yet, which is understandable given he came from another country and plays in arguably the toughest position on the pitch to make mistakes in.
and Young is hardly a bad signing either.
It was clear even when he played for Blackburn that he was something special. 18 year old anchoring the defence and giving instructions to 30 year old midfielders to push up. Fierce tackler, young lad with a grown mans body, leader even though he had just been handed his debut and so on...
He was special even then, but because the team itself was in such turmoil people would only highlight the games in which Blackburn were battered.
Pogba for me has the potential to be a brilliant midfielder. If we're just talking purely current ability then obviously he's not up there with the rest yet, I just have a really strong feeling he's going to be incredible given time and opportunity.
Although Jones looks like he's going to go onto to be a world class defender.
So Pogba and Jones for me.
Although Jones looks like he's going to go onto to be a world class defender.
So Pogba and Jones for me.
That was my point. I don't see it as being right basing it just off his fistful of games for United. Makes sense if one has followed his career at Blackburn and been impressed since.
I wonder what the formation of the future will be...
.............De Gea
Rafael Smalling Jones Fabio
.......Pogba Anderson
....Nani Rooney Morrison
.............Welbeck
?
.............De Gea
Rafael Smalling Jones Fabio
.......Pogba Anderson
....Nani Rooney Morrison
.............Welbeck
?
There wouldn't be so much attention on his personal life and United wouldn't have stood by him if he wasn't that good.
As far as I'm concerned it's Rafael.
I might be biased but Ravel is the best talent we've IMO. Pogba, Smalling, Jones, Twins, De Gea, Welbeck are all excellent but Ravel is more talented than them.
Total so far.
Jones 31.83
Smalling 14.33
De Gea 5.5
Welbeck 4.5
Morrison 3.83
Rafael 3.5
Cleverley 2.5
Fabio 1.5
Pogba 0.5
Jones running away with it. As Sharky says the timing is all important. If this had been done 3 or 4 months ago i'd expect Rafael to be a lot higher up. I really dont think theres that much to choose between Jones and Smalling.
Jones 31.83
Smalling 14.33
De Gea 5.5
Welbeck 4.5
Morrison 3.83
Rafael 3.5
Cleverley 2.5
Fabio 1.5
Pogba 0.5
Jones running away with it. As Sharky says the timing is all important. If this had been done 3 or 4 months ago i'd expect Rafael to be a lot higher up. I really dont think theres that much to choose between Jones and Smalling.
now Smalling
future Pogba
future Pogba
He is that good. He's 'pleasing' on the eye. Someone used to say that about Zidane. His manipulation of the ball, his paitence in the last third, his confidence, he ability to run with the ball, his ability in front of goal, his unpredictability.....but he can get better. Hopefully he get's a little stronger because there are thugs in the premiership.Is Morrisson actually THAT good? (Not a sarcastic question)
I've seen a fair few reserve games and he's looked promising without blowing me away. I certainly thought Pogba looked the better player though.
Him and De Gea equally for me. it's just that the latter hasn't made the same impact yet, which is understandable given he came from another country and plays in arguably the toughest position on the pitch to make mistakes in.
and Young is hardly a bad signing either.
Pogbas different and people know i'm a fan
To me, he's a class act. Plays the game as his own pace, has a great shot on him. I'd just add Tunnicliffe as he's a mini Jones for me. Another player who gives everything on the pitch, gets stuck in and can drive teams on. Basically, we're in good shape. You just hope Morrison, realizes his potential..
Smalling and Jones aren't even seen as prospects any more (I know this isn't what the tread asks for). It's crazy, two players that young are already pretty much established Man United players. I know Jones has only played a handful of games, but my God that guy is fecking phenomenal. That run for Rooney's goal was superb. This guy could easily play in the centre midfield in the future.
Yes, he's that good. He has it in him to become something very special if he sticks with us and focuses on solely his career and achieving his ambitions. The talent he has is hard to realistically put into words. I'm not saying he is anything like him, but it would be similar to telling people how good Ronaldo was at 18, it's hard to really describe him apart from saying he has potential for the highest brilliance.
Jones.
Jones is awesome, and I mean it in the sense that he's so good he's awe-inspiring. Smalling does come fairly close for me, and I have high hopes for Cleverley, but Jones is it.
It will be interesting to see how United fans take to him if/when he gets minutes. Given how the current side is playing at a great tempo, he generally slows the play down to his own tempo. He also doesn't play the obvious pass and sometimes tries to beat an extra man unnecessarily.
Personally, I love watching him play, but I think he will frustrate fans equally (and some of his own players).
Smalling, on the basis he was awesome for us all last season.
While Jones, de Gea, Welbeck and Cleverley all look amazing talented to me, Smalling has a consistent full season with United under his belt.
While Jones, de Gea, Welbeck and Cleverley all look amazing talented to me, Smalling has a consistent full season with United under his belt.
Jones. Smalling. Twins. Welbeck. Cleverley.
It is, IMO, impossible to currently seperate Jones & Smalling, IMO. I'm just glad we have both.
Can't really compare them to de Gea yet.
Not seen much of Tunnicliffe, Morrison and Pogba and they are yet to make any sort of impact in the first team.
It is, IMO, impossible to currently seperate Jones & Smalling, IMO. I'm just glad we have both.
Can't really compare them to de Gea yet.
Not seen much of Tunnicliffe, Morrison and Pogba and they are yet to make any sort of impact in the first team.
Most of us would say Welbeck but most pundits say it's Smalling... Phil Jones play is inspiring... we all love the Da Silvas fighting spirit... I'm getting comfortable to the idea of seeing De Dea being our top notch keeper for years... frankly I'd give everything to see any one of them follow Giggsy's path...
Jones. Future England and United captain.
Smalling a close 2nd. I think he's as good as jones and will have a great career too. jones edges it for me because i think he's a leader unlike smalling.
Smalling a close 2nd. I think he's as good as jones and will have a great career too. jones edges it for me because i think he's a leader unlike smalling.
The amazing thing is is that Jones ist 3 years younger. That is a lot when you are that young
When he becomes part of the first team i'm sure that will be beaten out of him. Besides Nani at times can slow play down and tries to beat the extra man, as did Ronnie. He has that natural gift of a flair player, he'll be a player that the fans will get frustrated with initially but allow him to learn for a season or two and he'll become a beast of a player.
If he can overcome his personal demons, then he's going to be a special player.
Six months later, just wondering has anyones opinion changed.
Before, Phil Jones had over 30 picks with Smalling half as many. Welbeck and De Gea had less than half a dozen each but now i'd say they'd both get a lot of peoples vote.
Before, Phil Jones had over 30 picks with Smalling half as many. Welbeck and De Gea had less than half a dozen each but now i'd say they'd both get a lot of peoples vote.
Would've said Smalling then, and I still would now. Rafael and De Gea close 2nd and 3rd, though I'm not sure in what order.
That's based on the level of performance they've reached so far, and also because I think it's absolutely realistic to expect these to be amongst the best in the world in their respective positions sooner rather than later.
That's based on the level of performance they've reached so far, and also because I think it's absolutely realistic to expect these to be amongst the best in the world in their respective positions sooner rather than later.
Anyone knows if we sometimes allow some of our youngsters to train with the first team? Cause our new signing, a 16 year old named Andreas Pereira have been having some training sessions with the first team.
Smalling, De Gea and Rafael are all as close to dead certs to make it at the top level as far as I'm concerned. I actually think they could go into most teams in the world and not really look out of place.
Jones, Welbeck, Cleverley are all class too but they've either not shown enough just yet or have to get some more maturity in their game to really be classed as dead certs. Jones needs a position, Cleverley needs games and Welbeck has everything bar being a consistent goal threat at the moment. Pretty confident they'll all turn out to be top quality. Fabio probably belongs here too but his development is less straight forward with Evra not being dropped and Jones & Rafael taking the right back spot.
Pogba is unproven but highly talented, hope he signs this new contract as he's great. Hard to judge him against first team players.
Oh and Morrison
Jones, Welbeck, Cleverley are all class too but they've either not shown enough just yet or have to get some more maturity in their game to really be classed as dead certs. Jones needs a position, Cleverley needs games and Welbeck has everything bar being a consistent goal threat at the moment. Pretty confident they'll all turn out to be top quality. Fabio probably belongs here too but his development is less straight forward with Evra not being dropped and Jones & Rafael taking the right back spot.
Pogba is unproven but highly talented, hope he signs this new contract as he's great. Hard to judge him against first team players.
Oh and Morrison
De Gea.
If he stays then gotta be Pogba, if not then De Gea for me.
Is that 'has been having' ? Interesting, if true.
There's a lot of buzz about this kid. I'm anxious to see him.
Smalling
De Gea
Rafa
De Gea
Rafa
Smalling
Welbeck
Jones
Welbeck
Jones
Has been having indeed. I think it was his father who've just recently said that he thinks his son will get a shot with the 1th team within two years, and that he was playing in midfield along Scholes and uptop behind Rooney in training not too long ago. Really a shame that we messed up, which means that he wont be able to play for the club (besides friendlies) until next season.
Evans and De Gea are by far the most finished products by current ability imo.
Welbeck, Rafael, and Smalling all look really good but need to polish certain parts of their game. Dont think Ive personally seen enough of Cleverley to give a good assessment.
Im a bit uncertain about Jones lately. Hasnt really filled me with confidence from his latest performances. Im not writing him off, but at the moment hes the kind of player whose game is based on athleticism and grit, and not particulary great footballing ability or positional sense.
Welbeck, Rafael, and Smalling all look really good but need to polish certain parts of their game. Dont think Ive personally seen enough of Cleverley to give a good assessment.
Im a bit uncertain about Jones lately. Hasnt really filled me with confidence from his latest performances. Im not writing him off, but at the moment hes the kind of player whose game is based on athleticism and grit, and not particulary great footballing ability or positional sense.
In terms of the way he plays, Cleverley excites me the most. That doesn't mean he'll end up the best but I just love the way he plays the game. Does the basics with such consumate ease. Really hope he shakes off his injuries from now on.
I keep going back to that comment Fergie made earlier this season about not having seen that kind of impact by a young player on the team for a long time, and its obvious to see why. His ability to get the basics spot on and play intelligent football is infectious.
I keep going back to that comment Fergie made earlier this season about not having seen that kind of impact by a young player on the team for a long time, and its obvious to see why. His ability to get the basics spot on and play intelligent football is infectious.
It's sad to see Morrison fail given the responses to my question at the top of this page
Out of the players listed, I'd go for Smalling to be honest. Perhaps players like Jones, for example, have the potential to go further than him, but what impresses me about Smalling as a defender is how good he is already. He's very composed in the defence, rarely makes errors, and reads the game well for a young player.
He often appears to be the underrated one of our younger players though. At the start of the season, all the focus was on Jones seemingly, despite the fact that Smalling is better than him, and had been playing very well when we'd needed him to slot in for us at certain points of the season.
He often appears to be the underrated one of our younger players though. At the start of the season, all the focus was on Jones seemingly, despite the fact that Smalling is better than him, and had been playing very well when we'd needed him to slot in for us at certain points of the season.
Smalling for me.He's shown rare qualities of maturity that none of our other youngsters have.