Will be an even bigger statement if one of those clubs DID buy him after so much cnutiness.
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I don't think Madrid would be put off, hes a cnut but hes a winner, and thats all they care about.
My view on suarez is that hes far worse than the majority of the supposed cnuts in football simply because his worst behaviour is almost without exception a deliberate attempt to injure another player.
Diving, feigning injury and all the rest is bad enough when players do it, but deliberate stamps, stud raked and all the rest are the very worst , and he does it so regularly, you can probably see it in at best one in three games hes playing, and this is in a season where hes scoring for fun and having some personal success and recognition for his actual footballing ability.
On a football pitch, he is, by far, the biggest cnut in world football at the minute.
The obvious difference between Cantona/Keane and Suarez is that our two heroes were hard men whereas Suarez is simply a cheat who loves to dish it out (often in the slimiest of ways) but will go full Platoon if he feels the slightest touch from an opponent. Entirely different mentalities.
Sure, some of Cantona and Keane's challenges were violent and brutal but football was still making the transition from being a man's game back then.
Also, Suarez is a racist.
Sure, some of Cantona and Keane's challenges were violent and brutal but football was still making the transition from being a man's game back then.
Also, Suarez is a racist.
Yeah, I cringe when I hear people spouting that bullshit about Cantona and Keane although it mostly comes from Liverpool fans obviously. Sure they could be massive cnuts if you were playing/supporting the opposite team, but they didn't mind being on the receiving end of hard tackles etc. Huge difference. Did you see them going two-footed into a player only to feign the injury afterwards?
To be fair it wasn't Liverpool fans who brought Cantona into this discussion.
Having said that some United fans clearly think his challenges were bad.
Whether that has any relevance to Suarez is up to people to decide.
All fans have sometimes controversial views on rival teams players, I have said on here numerous times I get why people don't like Suarez and have often been critical of him myself.
You will always get an element of "well your player does this" but that's just the nature of football banter.
Transition. Lol I'm loving this thread. Anyhoo, he's no saint. But he's our Mother Teresa.
I'm not talking exclusively about this thread.
I simply don't get Suarez. He would have been respected and well-liked across Premiership if he wasn't such a cnut. He's got everything in footballing terms, maybe apart from the current stature of the club he's playing for (no offence) to get on with it in a civilized manner and yet he seems unable to. He could play the victim card all he wanted previously but he really does bring everything on himself. There have been players like Cantona, Keane, Rooney etc that visibly benefited from their inner confidence, aggression. That's not the case with Suarez at all.
Unless he needs to be loathed.
I find it cringeworthy when our fans try to justify some of Cantona or Keane's frankly bonkers assaults as somehow positive traits or simply the product of old school football (they were still considered bonkers back then) that don't bare comparison. They stamped on people, they went for people, it's wasn't good honest blokery, this isn't the EDL, it's all being cnutish. Stop being cringey and contradicting my point.
What they didn't do though, was do it every other game. It was generally twice a season max, when they'd blow up at something frustrating. Suarez does these things so constantly that it's insane to keep trying to prop up this idea of him being witch-hunted. He's clearly a complete nob who'll try and gain any advantage out of anything, including racist sledging, hair pulling and pretending to be injured after trying to injure other people.
What they didn't do though, was do it every other game. It was generally twice a season max, when they'd blow up at something frustrating. Suarez does these things so constantly that it's insane to keep trying to prop up this idea of him being witch-hunted. He's clearly a complete nob who'll try and gain any advantage out of anything, including racist sledging, hair pulling and pretending to be injured after trying to injure other people.
Most I know want him talked about for his football, I honestly think some of the things discussed are just because it's him and not necessarily because of the seriousness of what he did.
He is constantly under the microscope where every little thing is picked on, has he brought that on himself, probably a lot of it yes.
A lot of what he has done you can't excuse, some of what he has done have provoked over the top reaction.
You will continue to talk about it, we have to live with that.
This makes no sense.
No mate, it's not him being under a microscope and no, I'm not dying to rubbish him. I stopped bollocking him some time ago and I feel the tension has melted considerably since the end of racism-gate, paradoxically. People have more important issues in life but it doesn't help that every 3 games or so I hear he did something hideous. Seriously, I'm not being hypocrite but as long as you defend him without any ground for that, it won't stop. He really is the biggest cnut I've seen in this game and it sort of frustrates me. Because in purely footballing terms, he's world-class and it would be much nicer to focus on that.
Transition. Lol I'm loving this thread. Anyhoo, he's no saint. But he's our Mother Teresa.
he's not under the microscope he just commits these acts on a regular occurrence. If Rooney punched someone and stamped on someone in the same game the media would be all over it.
This. Shockingly enough, his past exploits have reduced the attention and condemn everytime he does it now. It's almost as if it's a part of his game a potentially customary event everytime he plays. Maybe people got bored of all of this? If it wasn't for the Caf, I wouldn't have heard of his heroic deeds against Chile. I'm 100% sure I would have if it was Rooney/Van Persie/Aguere whoever really.
Under the microscope 
He draws all the attention to himself and as the other posters have said, quite a lot of his actions aren't even commented on by the media. For example, what happened after he clearly intentionally stood on the back of the Zenit defender at Anfield? Nothing what so ever, and it hasn't even been mentioned again. Nor that tackle on the Wigan player. The fact is that he does these horrible things clearly with the intent to injure other players, and then either feigns injury himself or acts surprised.
He draws all the attention to himself and as the other posters have said, quite a lot of his actions aren't even commented on by the media. For example, what happened after he clearly intentionally stood on the back of the Zenit defender at Anfield? Nothing what so ever, and it hasn't even been mentioned again. Nor that tackle on the Wigan player. The fact is that he does these horrible things clearly with the intent to injure other players, and then either feigns injury himself or acts surprised.
Come again?
Everyone, just imagine for a moment, if Rooney acted like Suarez, if he had punched a Montenegrin played in the face this week.
He might want to read the CE forum
Luis Suarez.
All of those accidental. He's the best player in the world, but has a complete lack of control over his body.
The real problem is he isn't under the microscope enough by officials and the FA. If they cracked down on his repetitive attempts to injure, he'd stop and it would go away. He's like a child whose not been given solid boundaries.
And once you're under the microscope, you have to deal with it. Ronaldo and diving is a great example.
If he really wanted to injure someone, I'd expect him to have done it by now.
Probably best not to look directly above then.
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Thos Suarez gifs are incredibly frustrating to watch
You're right ShadesofTomato, by repeatedly punching, kicking, stamping and biting other players, he's actually just trying to make them stronger. It's very considerate of him.
The fact that you can say that with all the gif's above is fecking hilarious
He must practice that "kick from behind, roll over like you've been shot" moves. It looks so genuine.
Kind of stupid from him, since he's clearly got the talent to get by without these antics!
Kind of stupid from him, since he's clearly got the talent to get by without these antics!
There are so many gifs it's crashing my page!
The amount of times he does something semi-violent and then appeals for the decision himself
What a fecking bellend.
The amount of times he does something semi-violent and then appeals for the decision himself
What a fecking bellend.
I know Keane was a cnut but the thing that grates with Suarez is that he has a 'cnut quota', I am fairly sure he does at least one cnutish thing a game. I don't remember any other players being that consistent in the cnut stakes.
To be fair I think everyone including United fans know that Keane and Cantona were capable of just as violent thuggery as Suarez, and just as indefensible.
The difference being that Suarez has other issues too, such as racism, a lack of understanding for whats appropriate in other cultures, and the snide cheating ( unless anyone can correct me I couldn't imagine Keane or Cantona conning their way through a cup tie against a non league side, although to be fair its unlikely they would have often needed too!
Also his offence frequency is far higher.
We all understand that most clubs have cnutish players, we have to deal with Terry and to a lesser extent Cole, but they have both been excellent players and legends to the club so from a footballing point of view you have to respect them. However it seems with Suarez, the majority of Liverpool fans wont even acknowledge what he is outside of being a world class player.
The difference being that Suarez has other issues too, such as racism, a lack of understanding for whats appropriate in other cultures, and the snide cheating ( unless anyone can correct me I couldn't imagine Keane or Cantona conning their way through a cup tie against a non league side, although to be fair its unlikely they would have often needed too!
Also his offence frequency is far higher.
We all understand that most clubs have cnutish players, we have to deal with Terry and to a lesser extent Cole, but they have both been excellent players and legends to the club so from a footballing point of view you have to respect them. However it seems with Suarez, the majority of Liverpool fans wont even acknowledge what he is outside of being a world class player.
Is there a gif of his dive vs Stoke this season?
Added to the gifs above.
Good man, Shades. The comedy keeps rolling in.
Granted he can be a nasty fecker, but as far as I know he's yet to cause significant injury to anyone.I don't know whether to
He'll stick his fingers in your eyes or stamp on your arm, but I don't feel he goes out with intent to maim.
That Ajax tackle is a bit indefensible though.
Just an horrible cowardly twat isn't he. Every one of those 'tackles' was shithouse behaviour, he either steps on or kicks an unexpected opponent. Id love it if somebody got up and kicked feck out of him you can tell he's a soft cnut.
Why does he need to do that though? im all up for a player getting stuck in and the odd tackle maybe going a bit wild but the things he does are needless.
Why does he need to do that though? im all up for a player getting stuck in and the odd tackle maybe going a bit wild but the things he does are needless.
It doesn't matter if they were significantly injured or not, he's just extremely lucky they weren't. So biting people in the neck, punching people in the face and stamping on players ankles isn't an attempt to injure someone? Knowing full-well what sort of damage he could do to the very things footballers depend on? Get to feck.
He's lucky he didn't snap a few ankles though, some of those challenges are pathetic.
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