Why does it matter if he stays for 2-3 years?
Moyes To Succeed Ferguson Anyone?
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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IndeedEvery single one of us is ambivalent about David Moyes!
Is ambivalent about David Moyes!
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Why wouldn't he?
Anywhere. Does it matter where?
Makes me wonder how long this has been on the cards, clearly Pep was the preferred option but he opted for Bayern. The big concern is Rooney. Whatever some think on here he's still our best player and I cannot see him playing under Moyes again.
Don't worry he'll bring Gibson back and every thing will be great!
Would us fans have known how incredibly intelligent Neville is with football tactics if not for his appointment with Sky? I don't think we know much about Moyes. Let's wait and see before we make judgments.
Did Pep win anything prior to taking over at Barca?
Did Pep win anything prior to taking over at Barca?
Norwich City. Delia fancies him or maybe it Stephen Fry who does.
I will give it 2 years before he falls out with Roman again.
Hmm always thought Mourinho was only man for the job, Moyes is uninspiring but I feel better after hearing Gary Neville talking about it on ssn. I'm concerned by his away record at big clubs though.
I'd say a new managerial appointment is a lot more important than whether or not we keep Rooney.
Don't think that's true. Apparently Charlton has wanted him for years. And we know how highly Fergie himself has always rated him. If (I still say if) he gets the job it certainly won't be a last minute decision. He will have been the chosen one for a good while.
I remember a story from earlier this year, around the time when Maureen was seen - allegedly - house shopping in London, which started the speculations again: Anyway, the story was that Charlton had told some journo or other that there was zero chance of United appointing Maureen. Supposedly Maureen had his supporters on the board, but Charlton and other heavyweights were against him - and preferred a certain D. Moyes.
We shall see. We may get one hell of surprise tomorrow. I doubt it, though. I think Charlton will have his way here, as it were. And that way will be Fergie's way too, of course.
He didn't spend 10 years trying unlike Mr.Moyes.
Probably. I just think if he came to United he'd stick around for longer than he has done anywhere else. He's always spoken of his respect for SAF and that makes me think he'd honour that by making a legacy of his here.
If you're happy with Manchester United playing abominable, reprobate football, good for you.
What did Neville say?
Without question but surely a Moyes appointment will mean the end of Rooney at United and that has to be taken into consideration.
I'm delighted with the choice of Moyes and Fergie can pass on all his knowledge of how to play in Europe to Moyes which will help Moyes a lot considering it took Fergie a long time to understand the continental game more....When to comes to loyalty, discipline and man managment...Moyes is as hood as anyone out there and I think he will prove it next season
From 2009
http://www.people.co.uk/sport/footb...objectid=21584408&siteid=93463-name_page.html
David Moyes is favourite to succeed Alex Ferguson as Manchester United boss after winning the support of several senior Old Trafford board members.
People Sport can reveal that powerful factions within the Old Trafford hierarchy have already decided that when Fergie retires - possibly as soon as next summer - the Everton boss should take over.
Those factions, understood to include Sir Bobby Charlton, believe they will get their man and win a battle for the soul of United which is raging from within.
Sir Bobby would not like the way Jose behaves sometimes. Sir Bobby has always been a classy person and would expect his manager to behave in the same way.
We've been playing some absolute shite under Sir Alex, and he's the GOAT
Cos obviously Guardiola would have led Everton to League and European glory.
CluelessTo be fair what exactly do you expect Moyes to win with that team?
We have picked up only a small handful of away wins against top sides ourselves during Fergie's reign. I really don't understand why anyone would regard this as a significant factor. The bloke manages to stay in contention for a CL spot with stunning regularity, yet people choose to focus on something like this.
Portugal National team. Quite possibly if he was to win another European Cup.i could see thinking a World Cup as a challenge for him.
We can't play any worse than some of the games this season. I agree. Moyes hasn't been the manager of Stoke City for goodness sake. Then I could understand the worries. Some of this lot are getting hysterical.
But does it necessarily mean the end for Rooney? I'm not so sure. After all, he's the manager who brought him on and gave him his chance. I doubt we'd sell Rooney unless we'd bring in a crazy replacement because if the fans turn on the owners now, with no SAF to defend them, that might just mean a little more than the short-lived green and gold...they'll need to tread very carefully
I don't mind that we've opted for stability - a squad that's comfortably won the league and deserved better in the CL needs reinforcements not replacement. Processes and structures that have been built up over years and are working like clockwork don't need tinkering.
I don't even mind that Moyes has won nothing of note.
But I had hoped that if we didn't go for a big name we'd have gone for someone with a reputation not just for hitting above their weight but for looking good in the process. Or someone with a reputation for spotting great young or underutilised talent before the price tag hits 40m. Or even someone who took a great, but difficult, player and turned him into a star.
So there's my disappointment. I look at Moyes and see OK.
Of course I'll happily give him a couple of years to show he's better than that.
I don't even mind that Moyes has won nothing of note.
But I had hoped that if we didn't go for a big name we'd have gone for someone with a reputation not just for hitting above their weight but for looking good in the process. Or someone with a reputation for spotting great young or underutilised talent before the price tag hits 40m. Or even someone who took a great, but difficult, player and turned him into a star.
So there's my disappointment. I look at Moyes and see OK.
Of course I'll happily give him a couple of years to show he's better than that.
Basically along the lines of the club will look at the bigger picture, give the manager time and not make the 'popular' decision to the detriment of the Manchester United way...youth, a family and community spirt all of who h he says Moyes would maintain.
In all fairness there is a potential alternate thought process to Moyes:
Pick someone after Sir Alex that hasn't won anything and has no real experience at this stage, but might surprise everyone by being a real success.
Worst case scenario for a couple of years we don't win anything and he is replaced with a proven manager, who then doesn't have the "burden" of Fergie's success. Someone like Mourinho (or anyone really) will never get much credit for winning as it'll always be worse than Fergie's record. Whereas in a theoretical scenario of a Moyes not winning anything for a few years, a future manager will only be compared to that, rather than Fergie's record.
If Moyes succeeds early on obviously everyone will be over the moon and he will then be able to then build from it.
Pick someone after Sir Alex that hasn't won anything and has no real experience at this stage, but might surprise everyone by being a real success.
Worst case scenario for a couple of years we don't win anything and he is replaced with a proven manager, who then doesn't have the "burden" of Fergie's success. Someone like Mourinho (or anyone really) will never get much credit for winning as it'll always be worse than Fergie's record. Whereas in a theoretical scenario of a Moyes not winning anything for a few years, a future manager will only be compared to that, rather than Fergie's record.
If Moyes succeeds early on obviously everyone will be over the moon and he will then be able to then build from it.
Well all I can say is that I hope I'm as wrong about Moyes as I was spectacularly wrong about SAF.
Having said that, I doubt Moyes is going to get 5 or 6 years to win the PL again, with everything set up for him already. I'd give him time to get Europe right, but he needs to keep up the standard at home.
Hey, maybe we'll win the FA Cup again!
Having said that, I doubt Moyes is going to get 5 or 6 years to win the PL again, with everything set up for him already. I'd give him time to get Europe right, but he needs to keep up the standard at home.
Hey, maybe we'll win the FA Cup again!
Yes winning a world cup would be a huge incentive for him. Portugal won't manage it though, doubt he will go there.
Yes, there it is - thanks for the link.
Everton play the least inspiring football out of all the teams in the top half of the table excluding West Ham. Have you seen their away record against the top 4 since Moyes took over? Played 50 and won precisely zilch.
You want stability at the club. Not a revolving door of managers.
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