ohh. did he score? am too high to notice the subtleties.
Adnan Januzaj
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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ohh. did he score? am too high to notice the subtleties.
Given that he was on the pitch for just 19 minutes, that's a very impressive showing. Seems to have taken some confidence from the Thai game, and injected some more of the virtuoso swagger from his U21s performances. The long pass to Lingard at the start and the beautiful little curly dink at the end are the standout moments, but there's lots of the usual flair footwork to drool over too.
By the way MoneyMay, these vids are excellent, I hope you keep them coming! Nothing I like more than a good all-touches compilation of a United player. Is that a Sir Sly remix?
Stunning, really easy on the eye this kid.
Calm down fellas.
No.
Let people be excited. If the boy was at Barcelona, people would be wanting him to come to United. Hopefully he gets games this season because I think he could be for Moyes what Giggs was to Sir Alex. The start of something great. Not just him, but him and Lingard especially. We won't learn much because they weren't that good, but the crowd didn't bother him even if it was pro United and neither did playing with experienced players.
Now yes we have to be calm but hopefully he'll go on to be a great player for the club. He has a great opportunity and we potentially have another reminder why the youth system is there for. It's not to sustain itself by selling off talented players, but rather give them opportunities
Now yes we have to be calm but hopefully he'll go on to be a great player for the club. He has a great opportunity and we potentially have another reminder why the youth system is there for. It's not to sustain itself by selling off talented players, but rather give them opportunities
Good job MoneyMay
Basically, we have a really good player on our hands. Basically.
Happens far too often, my text at the bottom isn't even spoilered yet they're showing up.
Keep him in match day squads this season.
Oliver Who?
Missed the game but thanks for the highlights. He's got some class on the ball alright and has good intelligence in the final third. It's early days but we should definitely see him in cup competitions this season. He just needs to keep impressing and we'll give him more first team opportunities.
We've seen promising talent evaporate here when they're given too much, too soon. I'd prefer if he followed a steadier route to our first team like Cleverley did.
We've seen promising talent evaporate here when they're given too much, too soon. I'd prefer if he followed a steadier route to our first team like Cleverley did.
He's already made more of an impact on the first team so I cant see how thats even possible
Thanks lads for the compliments - appreciate them. Here's the song:
This. Eikrem wasn't really the same thing anyway. We basically let him go, since he never really got to that point of knocking on the first-team door, and there was no real need at that point to bring someone through.
Pogba is the example for the worriers to latch on to, but I don't think it's necessary. Januzaj has already been given more chances to shine than Pogba got, and he has already made a more emphatic impression. If he keeps this up for the rest of the tour, he'll get proper first-team games. And as soon as that happens, the danger of a Pogba repeat disappears.
We have an 18 year old technically sound player who plays with the poise and maturity of a 28 year old and seems to be coming on with each game... it's natural to be bloody excited!
It's the whole Kagawa = our Iniesta thing all over again. We've not had a lot of technically excellent players so we get a little ahead of ourselves with the ones that are coming into our team now.
Who's getting ahead of themselves? Most posts I've seen are just calling him a promising player who could be knocking on the first team door next season. I agree that the lack of technically excellent players has made people get excited when one or two come around, but the feedback from today's game is fine in my opinion.
Not really, I'm sure we're not all expecting the second coming of Jesus but for those of us that watch him regularly in the reserves it's exciting to see him translate those same performances at first team level. If he continues to progress the way he does then he can truly become a special player. It's all up to him really how he progresses, but his attitude is unlike any other youngster I've ever seen come through our ranks post 2000.
Yeah I think those who don't watch the reserve games have really taken to him, and probably are more likely to get carried away with their expectations. The most impressive thing for me is his ability to step up a level - he went straight into the U21's and performed and earned a few man of the match performances (if I remember correctly) and now he's seamlessly entered the first team and played well, albeit against weaker than normal opposition.
So calling a player 'special' is now the equivalent of comparing him to Iniesta?
Exactly. Keep your pants on Brwned.Plus 'we've not had a lot of technically excellent players'?
Ok then...Yeah Brwned he is special for what he is, what's the problem with that? Did I call him Ronaldo special? He's a special talent that's come through the ranks and I stand by that. You don't just win u21 player of the year being the youngest one if you didn't deserve it. He has a fantastic worth ethic and maturity beyond his years, it's not every year we get someone like him come through.
Do you think that's what I was saying? I thought it was pretty clear I was making the simple point that people were getting ahead of themselves, just as they did with the Kagawa-Iniesta comparisons. Januzaj is just like Suso or any number of technically gifted roaming playmakers that populate the game at the moment, IMO. There's so many of them in the Spanish youth teams. There's a bucketload of them around the world with that same elegance, vision and maturity that people are saying is unusual for his age, so in the grand scheme of things I don't think special is the right word for it. Very promising no doubt, but we hear this kind of thing about so many of these technically excellent young players. It's the kind of thing we make fun of Arsenal fans for. The latest in line being this Zelalem kid who's impressing in much the same way as Januzaj at the age of 16. I guess he's super special.
No, he's a step above most of the sort of talented youngsters you're talking about. A year younger than Suso and comfortably the better player, for example. Arsenal do talk about their kids all the time, which is probably part of why you've got the impression that they have lots of players of Januzaj's ability. They don't - we're comfortably better than them at both U18 and U21 level. Januzaj, despite being only 18, was the best player on the pitch in the U21 final against Spurs, which we won.
I'm guessing you don't really follow the U18s and U21s much? I may be wrong, but I can only go on the fact that you don't really post in the youth forum that I can remember. Don't you think people who do are better qualified to judge whether or not Januzaj is 'special'?
I'm guessing you don't really follow the U18s and U21s much? I may be wrong, but I can only go on the fact that you don't really post in the youth forum that I can remember. Don't you think people who do are better qualified to judge whether or not Januzaj is 'special'?
By that logic you must be a Januzaj expert and a Suso expert, or perhaps you're not qualified enough to make that comparison.
If I've watched them more than you, then I reckon it's fair to say I've got more grounds to form an opinion than you do, yes. That's just common sense.
Players like Ronaldo and Messi have warped peoples views on what an 18 year old should be like. I bet Januzaj is as good, at this age, as some of the legends of the game were. If there's other players as good then fair enough, they're a special talent too. He's special because there's simply no limit on how good he can become due to his talent, ability and attitude. He's cruising through the ranks and playing as if he's still taking the piss out of u18 players.
He was just as impressive last summer too against Aberdeen. He was 17 then and had barely kicked a ball for United due to injuries. Didn't stop him standing out against SPL level players.
He was just as impressive last summer too against Aberdeen. He was 17 then and had barely kicked a ball for United due to injuries. Didn't stop him standing out against SPL level players.
I don't think anyone is really getting 'carried away' at all. Haven't some of the senior players on the tour also been impressed with Januzaj so far? I'm sure they would be better placed than all of us as they see him in training everyday. Nothing wrong with people getting excited about a youngster who looks genuinely promising.
I think everyone should be excited because he's a very promising talent as I've already mentioned. I can't wait to see him in the first team just like everyone else, but there's an absolute mile between that and this:
I suspect I've seen more of Suso and these other players I'm comparing him to but that's besides the point really. I don't think you need to have seen a load of these players to have a qualified opinion. If it's that important to you then yes, you win, you're more qualified to judge Januzaj than me. Take pride in being such a qualified judge of United youth players, it's something I could only dream of.
He's not "special"
Well there will always be one or two who get completely carried away, that's fully expected. But the general consensus seems to be that he has been promising so far, which is all good. I haven't seen either of the matches unfortunately, but from watching the clips posted in here, yeah he looks quite good indeed for an 18 year old. The opposition of course are piss poor, but nevertheless he has stood out and some of the lads on the tour have tweeted that he has also impressed them.
I agree with parts of Brwned's argument. Januzaj is a great talent, he's promising, and the main thing is that he hasn't looked inapposite with the first team, which is a major positive. I don't personally see a problem with the first set of quotes, as calling him special, which I perceive to be "exceptionally good" is a fair enough assessment. What I have a problem with is how overrated he has become by some Manchester United fans - and a large number of this category have not seen him play in the reserves, not even one game. (And, no, you don't need to watch reserves to assess a player.) Comparing him to legends is blind judgement. It's a false perception - it holds no weight. He's a talented player, but he's only 18 and he isn't the finished product.
This is true, we're a deprived bunch when it comes to footballing technicians.
If we get Cesc will it inhibit his growth?
So, before I get my hopes up, have we decided if he's special or not?
TBF Brwned has a point. He's looked really good at U21s but lets face it so far he's only played in the U21s and in a couple of preseason matches against crap opposition. I'm pretty sure he has it in him to be a first teamer but lets not get carried away yet.
Is that a Yes or No on the special question?
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