Steven Gerrard

this is a real crisis for Liverpool

down to the bare bones stuff - how are they gonna field a midfield when all the have is adam, aquilani, meireles, maxi, pouslen, lucas, henderson, spearing and the other half dozen i've probably missed
 
I don't think Adam will be any worse than the half-fit, half-arsed Gerrard of the last two seasons, to be honest.
 
Is this Woy's fault?

Gerrard was actually one of the few players who looked like he gave a shit under roy.

But obviously, the main causes of that stat has to do with the differences between roy and kenny's results than with Steven Gerrard. Bit of a no-brainer really.
 
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Steven Gerrard has been ruled out for the rest of Liverpools season ! or September as the rest of us call it.

:lol:
 
Yeah, and I rejected move to Barca 4 years ago.
 
Gerrard has a great highlight reel, but he was never a "great" player. Brainless in central midfield.
 
Steven 'loyal' Gerrard apparently rejected a move to Bayern last season. Discuss.

Yeah heard that on Talksport earlier. The journo, who was on to talk about tomorrows back pages, said that no-one in the press knew anything of this story & that it was incredible it never came out.

He didnt say it was bullshit, but i'd say Gerrard is bullshittin on the eve of his testimonial just to get himself more media coverage & for the scouse fans to wank themselves over Stevie-Me's loyalty & brilliance for the club. Arise Sir Gerrard & take a bow....
 
His highlight reel is what's made him so overrated. When you think of Gerrard you think of West Ham, Olympiakos, Istanbul, really big occasions when he's come up with the goods, and that's nothing to look down upon, but I think as an actual footballer, Lampard was superior. Gerrard was dynamism and energy and leadership and thriving on the big stage. But you don't have Lampard's goalscoring record as trophy haul by accident.
 
Yep, Gary Neville put him in his team of the year last season as well :wenger:
 
At one time - the best box-box player in the world according to the English press :lol::wenger::rolleyes:
The English press never have been very good at acknowledging foreign talent. Remember, it's the English media who have frequently described Andy Carroll as unplayable.

Yep, Gary Neville put him in his team of the year last season as well :wenger:

I don't even know where this has come from. His role has been so clearly stifled by Rodgers' style. Rodgers wants you to keep the ball and pass it 15 yards. Gerrard wants to be direct and spray it 60. I barely noticed him last year. He had those odd standout games, but he's a shadow of his former self.
 
His finishing is underrated, I just don't understand why you wouldn't play him behind a front striker. Benitez is a loon but making him play circle to box from the middle/left/right was crucial.

He looks so neutered in that deep role. He looks like he has the mobility of Scholes at 38 and add in a dash of 'roll the dice' hollywood passes per 90 mins.
 
His highlight reel is what's made him so overrated. When you think of Gerrard you think of West Ham, Olympiakos, Istanbul, really big occasions when he's come up with the goods. Lampard was superior. Gerrard was dynamism and energy and leadership and thriving on the big stage. .
Yes, overrated because he played big in the biggest matches. That is priceless. :lol:
 
Will be at the game today, great player.
LFC TV showed a lengthy series of clips of a lot of the goals he has scored, an incredible amount of
strikes from outside the box that any player would find hard to match.
Biased of course but his goal against West Ham in the 2006 FA Cup final was up there with the best.

Enjoy the day Stevie G.
 
His finishing is underrated, I just don't understand why you wouldn't play him behind a front striker. Benitez is a loon but making him play circle to box from the middle/left/right was crucial.

He looks so neutered in that deep role. He looks like he has the mobility of Scholes at 38 and add in a dash of 'roll the dice' hollywood passes per 90 mins.


He played really well in Rafa's team when he was played behind Torres. Gerrard, and Torres also, was great that year, especially when all his defensive and deep lying playmaking duties were taken up by Mascherano and Alonso in midfield. Rafa was a loon for trying to get rid of Alonso in the summer of 2008.

The spine of that team was so strong. Despite having Kuyt and Riera on the wings for most of the year, Liverpool challenged for the title. Reina, Agger, and those mentioned already all had strong seasons, IIRC. That is a team I would asssume has been talked a lot about on places like RAWK. Probably their best team in a long time, probably even better then the team that won the UCL a few years earlier

That year demonstrates the best and worst about Rafa. Could be really strong tactically, but also had real trouble building a strong team that had strength in depth. A big part of that was his failings in the transfer market. From trying to sell Alonso and replace him with Barry to buying, spending big and failing on players like Keane, and to a lesser extent Dossena, and then spending small sums on a number of useless players; N'Gog (basically became their back-up CF), Degen, Cavalieri. I guess Riera was a successful signing, at least from his relatively acceptable form of his first season
 
Biased of course but his goal against West Ham in the 2006 FA Cup final was up there with the best.
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Still will go down as a disgusting piece of sportsmanship from Carragher to close down a sporting kickout for Cisse to get treatment. Should have just been returned to the keeper to play up field but Liverpool pushed up and forced a shit clearance from deep in tehir own half. Very unsporting.
 
Gerrard has a great highlight reel, but he was never a "great" player. Brainless in central midfield.

He was among the best in the world at his role (attacking midfielder) in the mid to late 2000s decade. For obvious reasons, I think he's quite under rated on the Caf.

Though I agree with the general idea that he was always more of a big game player than an every week consistency type. There's something to be said for a player who always seems to come through when the chips are down though.
 
Other than Vieira, the only player I thought was worthy to replace Keano. I think he would be a better player under Fergie as box to box, rather than playing as second striker on 'shit on stick' Benitez had.
 
The English press never have been very good at acknowledging foreign talent. Remember, it's the English media who have frequently described Andy Carroll as unplayable.

Agreed man, but i think the English media have had a wake-up call recently, much of it due to the poor performances of the national football teams - Senior & U-20's / U-21's & even the English ladies at the recent Euro's aswell. They're all reflections of the rediculous hype thats been generated in the past.

Also, the debate has arisen about Rooney being world-class & if he ever was. The fact that he was being mentioned in the same company as Ronnie & Messi many years ago as nailed-on world-class greats of the future & now is miles away from them, has many journo's re-evaluating their whole opinion of him. The general consensus now is that Rooney was never world-class, but had the potential, yet never fulfilled it like Ronnie & Messi have.

"Unplayable" - now that's a football term i have trouble with. Only football people could come out with nonsense adjectives like these.

"He was that good today, he was unplayable.." :confused: Which would equate to Ronnie or Messi being left out of the squad every match for Christ sake!

If something is unplayable, it means it doesn't work or it doesn't play/or doesn't play very well - its a negative not a positive... So in Andy Carrolls case, the original meaning of the term is most certainly correct.

We really shouldn't be encouraging thick footballer-terminology, but i have to say i love most of them - apart from feckin "unplayable" though :wenger:
 
Well he kinda is once he starts using those sharp elbows of his.

They used to say that Sparky wore his boots on his elbows when he played - always loved that reference. He must have been a bastard to play against - tough as feck, but was an excellent footballer more importantly.

As regards to Gerrard, you can see why he'll go down as a Liverpool great amongst their fans, but also yoi can see why he's quite disliked by non-pool fans. Word of advice too - never get into a conversation with a scouser about who was the better mid-fielder: Scholesy or Gerrard?!
 
His highlight reel is what's made him so overrated. When you think of Gerrard you think of West Ham, Olympiakos, Istanbul, really big occasions when he's come up with the goods, and that's nothing to look down upon, but I think as an actual footballer, Lampard was superior. Gerrard was dynamism and energy and leadership and thriving on the big stage. But you don't have Lampard's goalscoring record as trophy haul by accident.

He's been an amazing player, come on. Better than Lampard ever was. Swap them around, do you think Gerrard wouldn't have won as much (or more) if he'd spent his career in that Chelsea side? And Lampard would have done as well in an inferior Liverpool side?
 
The English press never have been very good at acknowledging foreign talent. Remember, it's the English media who have frequently described Andy Carroll as unplayable

It's just twigged that they meant from an oppositions perspective. I always had it down as totally accurate from a managers perspective.
 
Gerrard is/was an amazing player. Amount of people that post nonsense about his abilities as a footballer on here is incredible.
 
In my opinion hes basically Roy of the Rovers. He is an absolute top top player, no doubt about that but as a central midfielder he was never anywhere near world class. Doesn't possess the ability to control a game or dictate tempo etc. Would have liked to see operate at his peak in another league, Italy in particular.
 
Gerrard was an extraordinary player. Absolutely brilliant, wonderful technique, quick, strong, driven, an all-round pain in the arse to play against.

Yeah, arguably as a deep midfielder he was somewhat caught out at the top level, but he flourished when put in AM.
 
Arguably second best player for LFC behind Dalglish. That during our barren years too.
 
He used to be excellent player(never great mind you), but is far from being that at the moment, or in last few seasons.

Last season, in first half of the season, he was one of the main problems in that Liverpool side, anyone could have notice that.
Later in the season, he adapted to Rodgers' system bit more so he "looked" ok, but he is far from being something positive in that Liverpool side, if Liverpool didn't have so much other problems to deal with last season(defence, wing play, suarez's antics, and even Reina...), I'm sure Gerrard would get few critics even from Liverpool supporters.
 
Great player. And deserves his testimonial today.

I've always thought that there are big parallels between him and Robbo for us in the 80s. If you look at the influence Robbo had on our team, Gerrard has essentially been the same for Liverpool. He's been injury prone but was always nothing less than a whole hearted player - you could say this about Robbo and Gerrard - and yet most would admit both players were the heartbeat of their clubs.

All that said, I hope Stevie doesn't end his career winning the league the way Robbo eventually did.