Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!

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Why does everyone insist Real Madrid fans will judge Bale by his price tag? You think they're all retarded and don't have a relatively good idea on what he's worth or what?

Some will, in part, like I remember seeing with Berbatov here sometime ago, but was that the majority of fans, and was it extensible to the behaviour of fans in the stadium as well or was it just forum talk?

Porto's most expensive player ever was Danilo (discounting Hulk, but we only bought the remainder of the later's pass after knowing he was worthing), who is a decent right-back, but with a nowhere justifiable fee of 18m euros. He did get some stick in the forums from people insanely mad about the cost, but I don't see how that affected the player at all. The majority know that if someone is ever to blame it's the people doing business, not the players, and Danilo is very decent and steadily improving. As long as he's not utter shit, the fans will keep appreciating him like they do with any other player.

If Bale plays well, is reasonably productive (even if he only scores half of what Ronaldo does) and the team is successful, then his price tag won't hamper him in the least, I believe. Of course if he turns into another Kaka and gets benched he'll get stick, but that would happen even with a 50m fee.
Real Madrid fans have shown several times in the past their impatience and stupidity. They're not known for having the most supportive fans when things are going tough.
 

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Crazy money. It will be interesting at least to see how they fit both Ronaldo and Bale in the one team considering they basically play the same role.
 

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Real Madrid fans have shown several times in the past their impatience and stupidity. They're not known for having the most supportive fans when things are going tough.
Yeah, but they don't care about money that much. I don't think they ever blamed Kaka because of his price tag. He was shit and when he was benched, no one cared about it anymore, while they consistently disliked Khedira, who was a really cheap buy. If you play and you excite people at Real, then they love you, doesn't depend on your price tag, imo.
 

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I haven't really followed this (or any other transfer story) much, but did Real even bother at any point to put in a not completely insane bid? Surely Levy wouldn't have turned up his nose at £60m? This is just Real swinging their dick around, presumably.
 

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Of course he would. He could have sold him to someone else for more than that.
Like who? £60m would have made him the second most expensive player ever and is already more than he's worth. Nobody on Earth predicted Bale would go for this much, and not in their wildest dreams did Spurs fans hope for this kind of money. The whole thing makes absolutely no sense, at least until you remember what a bunch of lunatics Real Madrud are. It reeks of them making a statement by massively overpaying for the only world class player that was available to them.
 

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Interesting question.

In chronology, it looks like we signed nani a year later having failed to sign a 18 year old Bale. I remember he was hot property back then. Looks like he made the right decision to join Spurs, both in terms of less competition for places as well as Spurs always trying to play fast flowing wing based football. Who know if he would have developed in the way he in the way he has done at Spurs given the competition for places at United?

But given his UK roots, and our ability to challenge for top honours home and abroad every year, as well as being able to offer top salary, I'm, pretty confident we'd have had enough pull to keep him, even from the lure of Real Madrid.
No doubt he'd still be with United IMO. It's one thing to play for Spurs with dreams of winning a league cup or achieving fourth place, but with United he'd have a handful of league titles and three CL appearances under his belt (assuming he signed back in 2007). I don't think he would have had a desire to play for Real where as Ronaldo did from a young age. Then again, seeing as he is seemingly playing SWF to Ronaldo, perhaps he would have coveted a move to follow his idol/love interest.

Only thing is I don't see us offering 300k a week, which is a completely ludicrous amount and (maybe?) sets a precedent for the future for world class players.
 

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Like who? £60m would have made him the second most expensive player ever and is already more than he's worth. Nobody on Earth predicted Bale would go for this much, and not in their wildest dreams did Spurs fans hope for this kind of money. The whole thing makes absolutely no sense, at least until you remember what a bunch of lunatics Real Madrud are. It reeks of them making a statement by massively overpaying for the only world class player that was available to them.
Barca aren't saints by any means but I would like for them to beat Madrid to the title (again) and Copa del Rey.
 

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Like who? £60m would have made him the second most expensive player ever and is already more than he's worth. Nobody on Earth predicted Bale would go for this much, and not in their wildest dreams did Spurs fans hope for this kind of money. The whole thing makes absolutely no sense, at least until you remember what a bunch of lunatics Real Madrud are. It reeks of them making a statement by massively overpaying for the only world class player that was available to them.
That is just not true, take this story picked at random - from Sky - http://news.sky.com/story/1133346/gareth-bale-real-madrid-bid-has-mystery-rival

If you cant be bothered to read it, it predicted £86m as the fee last week - so less than what it turned out to be, but still way above £60m - while also indicating another club were sniffing around. That could have been PSG, us, Chelsea, City or probably a number of other clubs besides. I imagine if you go through the last 20-30 pages on this thread there would be plenty of people predicting things would turn out much as they have.

£60m for Bale would not be a bad deal at all, he is young, talented and very marketable. Yes, Real do overpay for players but this whole thing has been pretty predictable really.
 

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OK then. Take these from nearly 18 months ago. I dug these out fast. Honestly, there will be plenty more where these came from, going back way beyond this summer, both inside these forums and out.

On MOTD on Tuesday, Dixon (I think it was) said something like: "He was said to be worth £30m, well Im sorry but after this he must be worth £200m."

It was something like that, might have been £100m. Certainly some figure in excess of what we got for Ronaldo.




Hyperbole.
I think it was actually £300m. Someone mentioned the £150m to Dixon and he said he must be worth £300m after that. It's this ridiculous hype around him that makes it hard for me to like the player even though it isn't his fault.
 

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OK then. Take these from nearly 18 months ago. I dug these out fast. Honestly, there will be plenty more where these came from, going back way beyond this summer, both inside these forums and out.
Eh? Neither of those is a remotely serious suggestion that Bale would go for a world record.
 

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Dunno if he can live up to that price tag, but he will the Spanish fullbacks a new one.

Lets see how Carlo accommodates him, Ronaldo, Isco, di Maria and Ozil together.
 

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Has anyone seen a figure for how much Real Madrid's squad cost to put together btw? Could now be the first half billion quid group of footballers.
 

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That's not how much they spend. Those are only numbers made up by lots of users about how much the players should be worth in their opinion.
Bale will only add £30m to the value of the whole team because he came at the exact same day when £55m Kaka left them.

Bale £85m
Ronaldo £80m
Modric £30m
Alonso £30m
Pepe £30m
Coentrao £30m
Di Maria £35m
Benzema £35m
Ramos £20m
Illarramendi £30m

You got £405m there alone. Add players like Varane, Arbeloa, Khedira etc. and it may well reach £500m.
 

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He wouldve been a good signing for us IMO. Not the vital one we needed. But he wouldve improved the team. It is important to maintain the tradition of having Wales' best player in our ranks.
Spurs would never sell to us. I said once that the only way he was going to ever play for United was if he moved to Madrid or Barca and failed there. He's made step 1, time for step 2.
 

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Is he actually the most expensive player? His agents refused to get into that when they were on Sky Sports. It didn't sound like it.
hes not.
Ronnie is.

Also, imo its really erroneous to only look at the transfer sum. One of the 'talents' MAdrid have is that they look at the spend and income over the entire contract period. This is why for example Florentino would argue that Bale is a economically better acquistion than Neymar was, whome 'only' cost Euro57m.