Think it was more to do with him thinking nobody would pay that much so would bid low if the clause ran out and try and use that as reasoning.
It's this line that most concerns me. Not so much SAF vs. Moyes vs. Mourinho but just that the club should have done everything in its power to make the window as smooth as possible for Moyes and I feel it failed on that front. Ideally we would have had clear targets that were brought in early and had a chance for a bit of a pre-season with us. I accept that things aren't always that straightforward and sometimes you miss out on the players you want or are priced out the market. That's fine, but the club made a big mistake making all that fuss at the beginning of the window about how much money we had and how hard we were working with Woodward jetting off everywhere on urgent business. Even if that narrative was just to see a bit of a push on the season tickets, I think it's been unhelpful to Moyes in creating this atmosphere of disappointment and frustration that really needn't have been there.
Again do we really think that Woodward just sits there waiting for list of players to be sent up from Moyes? If that is how it works, we are truly in a mess. Call a freaking meeting. Make a freaking phone call. They are supposed to work together. Tell Moyes submit the list by such and such a date, end of. In fact in the heirarchy of the club Moyes is probably under Woodward. So yes Moyes' input is necessary, but if as several people have suggested Woodward just sat around waiting for a list of players to be handed to him, well it still points to him not doing his job properly and there being a mess at the club transfer wise right now.
Dossiers on players are done years in advance, and kept on record. Clubs now have massive scouting networks. Ideally we should jump at the opportunity as soon a one of our targets become available.
That's Richard Arnold's job and he would do it just fine without a moron in charge further up. We don't need to create a Director of Football to get what Gill gave us, just someone other than this inept tosser. It won't stop with transfers, I'd bet my left bollock he will be equally inept dealing with the FA as well. He is just a fecking suit doing a job that requires a man that lives and breathes football.
Makes you wonder what his approach was in the market last year, and if there was a change from this stance this year . If so, why?
Yeah an I don't think the argument that we only had x amount to spend works now as we were clearly looking at buying both Herrera and fellaini who would have been in excess of £40m at least. The worst thing is , is we've lost out in far better players for sums less than what we've paid over his release clause, and he was already overpriced. As you said there is also the cost if not having added him sooner to gel him in and perhaps help us in the league earlier.
Woodward is not a DOF, he can only go after targets given to him by the manager. If some of those targets have been given ridiculously late, then that is Moyes fault. Ed might not have stood a chance in the end. We will never ever find out.
Quite!
Fellaini had been a target since July when Moyes took over.
Indeed. I was never particularly anti-Glazer as I couldn't see much to hold against them with the club and team being run properly. It's all looking a bit shit going forward with this chap though and I'm not liking it one bit. Some indicated I was a drama queen for having a right fit last night, but it had nothing to do with squad strengthening but how it all stank. The fish rots from the head, how long until it starts affecting the club, its culture and, by extension, the players?
Rejecting a bid isn't a detail. You don't know if Woodward was on it. We've only seen lawyers there. So much crap on Woodward without any details on his job and what he's done. That's what this thread is about.
Yes, but it appears that fans wanted someone more creative as well, any targets for that position were also down to Moyes. If Fellaini was a target from the start, why didn't we just get him straight away, let him settle in, not sign him last minute and make him look like a panic buy and 2nd or 3rd choice when he wasn't? If Moyes wanted to help out Everton just bid more than the buyout clause. The uproar about the price would have died down by now.
Herera's men would not have access to that sort of money, and more importantly they'd have to have a contract in place before paying off his contract.
Agree with this. I don't think that it was the right move letting Fellaini deal to be concluded in the last minute when it could have happened 2 months ago.I don't know what were they thinking. Moyes doesn't need to get the impression that he's looking for players outside of Everton, he instead should have looked for players outside of Everton. Or sign Everton duo in the beginning of June and work on with that. We all knew that this is the first season and knowing that Moyes is super-cautious we would have understand that and wait for next season to get more quality players. But now, they had to talk so much that we are after the best talents in the world, can spend 70m in a single player, make absurd bids on a player that neither the club nor the player would have accepted, try an impossible deal four days before the deadline and end up in the end with the player everybody predicted we'll sign since May (for 4m more than his release clause).
Quite possibly because we already have two good No.10s in Rooney and Kagawa.
We're playing Ashley Young instead. Better having the three of them interchanging behind RvP than our rigid no-chance creating midfield that we've but forward in recent games.
Or the club said so in order to save face.
So in the end the dispute over Gibralter fecked us over then?
and I'd say he is his only fan. A complete wanker.
