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I can't believe there's just so much negativity here. I think we'll be in the mix by end of January, if we continue to play how we do and take each match as it comes.
It was a 2nd string side ffs!Are any of you lot actually watching us play?
We haven't got a hope in hell. Any half decent team would beat us. We've had a lucky run of fixtures thats all.
If we win this title Arsenal, Chelsea, City and Liverpool should all sack their entire squads and start again.
Is that the odds you would offer or ones you're getting from somewhere?Title is now 15/1, Citys consistency the main factor it isnt lowering much.
Are you watching any of the rest ? There's only City that have the quality throughout to win this league other than united. Is it not a massive indication how poor the top teams have been that Arsenal without a recognised striker and Liverpool a one man band with that one man likely to hit his own self destruct button at any point have been the early front runners ? Looking at the state of everyone you can't even rule out Everton yet.Are any of you lot actually watching us play?
We haven't got a hope in hell. Any half decent team would beat us. We've had a lucky run of fixtures thats all.
We're on a good run of results but they're all teams we should be expected to beat. We have a hell of a lot more to do before we look like title contenders again.
We've also looked fairly unconvincing in a lot of these wins. On another day they could easily have been different results and we can't really afford any more slip ups at this point.
Plus, even if we manage to get back to PL winning form, Man City still have a better team than us. If they get things right there'll be absolutely nothing we can do to catch them.
On the plus side we still have a lot of players coming back from injury, so we're definitely going to keep improving. Hopefully the panic over us not getting 4th will die down too and there'll be less risk of us making poor panic signings in January.
100% this. If we somehow manage to win the title from where we were then our rivals are an absolute disgrace.If we win this title Arsenal, Chelsea, City and Liverpool should all sack their entire squads and start again.
Same here. We'll most likely be 3 points of fourth once everyone has played which is pretty good considering where we wereI'm not even looking at the top of the table. Just focus on one goal at a time. Get into that top 4 spot, then we can start talking about contending for the title.
Is that the odds you would offer or ones you're getting from somewhere?
I can't see anywhere offering longer than 12/1.
Yes. And they've all been far far better then us.Are you watching any of the rest ? There's only City that have the quality throughout to win this league other than united. Is it not a massive indication how poor the top teams have been that Arsenal without a recognised striker and Liverpool a one man band with that one man likely to hit his own self destruct button at any point have been the early front runners ? Looking at the state of everyone you can't even rule out Everton yet.
You could argue that, but it'll be pointless. We've had a pretty comfortable run and we've done well especially to win the last two with all the injuries.I can easily argue that our recent fixtures are anything but easy/lucky.
CheersWas Betfair odds, changed to 13/1 now.
In any case, City have beaten us at OT for the past few seasons so getting 3 points from that fixture is far from guaranteed.City on their game though will destroy anyone, especially as at OT United will come out and attack. With City getting their away act together and United not tearing up trees at home, a draw is very possible from City, so I wouldnt realy on that game, rely on City going away to Everton, Anfield, WS, Emirates etc, they seem to suffer in those games where their heads arent in it. Derby isnt one.
Why on Earth would you expect this?I still expect City to beat Swansea
Looking to that one fixture so much with a bloody 19 to go is silly.In any case, City have beaten us at OT for the past few seasons so getting 3 points from that fixture is far from guaranteed.
Chelsea have been dire, playing worse football than anyone. Your not watching enough football if you think that.Yes. And they've all been far far better then us.
I think its also worth the note that using the point that 'so and so has to come to OT ' doesnt apply so much now as home form has actually been your bane this season. Liverpool and City having to come to yours is just as daunting as going away at present.
Good point, we need to beat some teams convincingly at OT in order to have some sort of psychological advantage before the matches kick off.I think its also worth the note that using the point that 'so and so has to come to OT ' doesnt apply so much now as home form has actually been your bane this season. Liverpool and City having to come to yours is just as daunting as going away at present.
Its kinda funny that we're now the exact same distance behind City that they were behing us halfway through last season. We won't win the title because we've got another wobble in us, but its going to be amusing when we pass Liverpool and then Arsenal after all the crowing.
Why on Earth would you expect this?
Imagine if all the 4 teams have a draw tomorrow! It would be Golden for us.
Chelsea are the only one's that you can argue have been worse. The others have been miles apart from us in terms of performances.Chelsea have been dire, playing worse football than anyone. Your not watching enough football if you think that.
Just stop arguing and admit it. Its fecking ON!
Well, yes. I was just being considerate and modest to everyone.Yep. Though Newcastle beating Arsenal would be better. Although it'd temporarily put Newcastle back above us, you can't see them staying there, and we need Arsenal to drop points before their "easy" run.
If Chelsea sort themselves out with a half decent striker in January they're favourites, for me.Its totally on! Although if you want to talk fixtures, after Jan 1st we have only to travel away to City and Liverpool as the hard away games. The rest are at home or not quite so tough.
City's away form has been as bad as anything you care to see, they've been exceptional in a few of the bigger games but hardly blazing a trail, yea you expect they will sort that out but the gaps 7 points and no guarantees united will continue to stutter.Chelsea are the only one's that you can argue have been worse. The others have been miles apart from us in terms of performances.
Chelsea are the only one's that you can argue have been worse. The others have been miles apart from us in terms of performances.
Tell me this, can Chelsea get back Lukaku in January? If they pay some kind of fee perhaps? Because getting a striker in would make you much stronger favorites in my eyes.Its totally on! Although if you want to talk fixtures, after Jan 1st we have only to travel away to City and Liverpool as the hard away games. The rest are at home or not quite so tough.
I don't think our squad depth has ever been questioned, has it? It's the quality of the first team players that has.Any of the top League teams now would be fecking chuffed to have got 12 out of 12 with all the injuries and suspensions we had. Our squad depth is incredible but apparently it's not good enough for a top 4 team, right?
Tell me this, can Chelsea get back Lukaku in January? If they pay some kind of fee perhaps? Because getting a striker in would make you much stronger favorites in my eyes.
Not having a true outstanding goal scorer does that to a side, Chelsea have been as bad, probably worse than United.We havent played worse, as at times we have played some excellent football, Sunderland and Wham away and at home vs City. The good results and performances have been masked by the away games vs United and games were we dominate but dont score more than 1, ie 2 days ago.
City have been absolutely stunning at home, their record is astonishing. Arsenal, even though they've trailed off, have played some brilliant football. And Liverpool have been playing some lovely football.City's away form has been as bad as anything you care to see, they've been exceptional in a few of the bigger games but hardly blazing a trail, yea you expect they will sort that out but the gaps 7 points and no guarantees united will continue to stutter.
Arsenal has been covered and you can expect a slide, the honeymoon looks to be over there. Leaving who else to chase ? Liverpool