Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances

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For once, I was quite happy with is game... he did some mistakes... shit passings... and bad marking for the goal...
 

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Talk about dividing opinions!

Yes he gave the ball away a lot, is lazy and seems scared to head the ball, but he did what he was asked to do in giving us an outball and bringing it down pretty successfully. If it wasn't for his presence for De Gea to aim at, what is themaster plan from the goal kick as we know we can't play through teams having proven that all year. If Fellaini wasn't playing no doubt we would have played the short ball and Rio would have punted it long and aimless into the corners or we would have tried to play through them and been destroyed on the counter, lets give Fellaini a break for doing the job he was asked to do as he doesn't determine how much we paid for him.
 

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He was SHIT. Absolutley terrible. £27.5m footballer. He should be ashamed of himself. An utter fraud.
Come on... see the score... it was a collective effort... give credit where it is due... I still hate his hair though.
 

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Come on... see the score... it was a collective effort... give credit where it is due... I still hate his hair though.
I am of the opinion he should shave his head...

If he's not going to act like a hard, crazy bastard... at least he can look like one.
 

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Gave away the ball in a few strange situations in the first half. Otherwise had a job to do and did it well. A divisive performance for sure, but people who still judge his performances by talking about his price tag are just dim.
 

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he looks like he's won a competition. So far out of his depth it's unbelievable. I'd rather have darron Gibson instead of this quim
It's too true to be funny, but I do find myself laughing, almost hysterically.
 

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Michael Cox of Zonal Marking was on 5 Live after the game yesterday - and he posed the question of whether Moyes will possibly adopt Pep's tactics he used away against Dortmund... basically using Fellaini how Pep used Javi Martinez that day, by shoving him up front and winning long balls - thus completely negating Dortmund's pressing game....

Interesting thought - but I imagine this place would explode if Moyes went for such an approach!
 

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That moment where he tried to run with the ball and ended up overrunning it and sort of sliding tackling the ball out of play on the halfway line. I've never seen anyone play at this level with such a lack of basic technique.
:Lol: That was ridiculous. And genuinely embarrassing. At times he looks like he's started playing the game about 6 months ago. fecking shit.
 

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All my friends (neutral, like Utd but not real fans) thought it was one of the worst CL individual player performances they'd seen in ages. The French football message board I'm on also pointed towards his poor game. He was really dreadful last night.
 

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Terrible game last night from Fellaini. The only mitigation I would say is that he was frequently outnumbered in the middle by the best group of midfielders in the world. However while that was probably justification for not dominating, it didn't excuse the dreadful basic errors he made.

The number of times he received the ball in the middle, and rather than make an easy pass that was available, instead turned into trouble, was ridiculous.

A quick check of the match stats are pretty damning. Out of the 7 times he went for header with an opponent he lost 6. 6! He's the tallest man on the pitch, including goalkeepers, and he got done in the air 6 times. Out of 13 duals (jostling shoulder to shoulder for the ball) he lost 10.

I think some it is about a lack of form. However its notable that his worst performances have all come against good teams. If he gets his Everton form back then he could be a useful battering ram for the day to day battle of the Premier League. But that's about it, from what I can see.
 

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Was the worst player on the pitch. Looked lazy, scared, lost out on headers despite being one of the tallest players on the pitch, let Schweiny go for the goal and just looked out of place.
 

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Terrible game last night from Fellaini. The only mitigation I would say is that he was frequently outnumbered in the middle by the best group of midfielders in the world. However while that was probably justification for not dominating, it didn't excuse the dreadful basic errors he made.

The number of times he received the ball in the middle, and rather than make an easy pass that was available, instead turned into trouble, was ridiculous.

A quick check of the match stats are pretty damning. Out of the 7 times he went for header with an opponent he lost 6. 6! He's the tallest man on the pitch, including goalkeepers, and he got done in the air 6 times. Out of 13 duals (jostling shoulder to shoulder for the ball) he lost 10.

I think some it is about a lack of form. However its notable that his worst performances have all come against good teams. If he gets his Everton form back then he could be a useful battering ram for the day to day battle of the Premier League. But that's about it, from what I can see.
I didn't have the stats, but they're bad, confirm what I was feeling watching the game.

Also, his technical ability is too limited for me. At one point in the second half he controlled a ball in the middle of the park with no one that close to him, and then when trying to move the ball just kicked it very far from him, chased it like a madman and under the pressure of a Bayern player, conceded a throw in. It was laughable.
 

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For once, I was quite happy with is game... he did some mistakes... shit passings... and bad marking for the goal...
Huh??

That makes no sense dmode.

You were happy with his game BUT for the fact....he didn't track Bastian....he made mistakes and shit passing, giving the ball away countless times?? Hmmm.

Was a shit performance IMO.
 

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If that guy has a ok WM we need to get rid of him.
Totally out of his depth. Cant pass, cant run, cant press.. And for feck sakes he lost so many header vs Alaba, Rafinha and Lahm they are 1.65cm!!
Moyes needs to get his head out of his ass and cut this guy out of our misery!
 

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It was quite painful watching him against Bayern's midfield. He just stuck out like a sore thumb with his inability to do the basics (short passes, closing player's down, first touch, following runners, positional discipline, winning aerial battles, tackling, mobility and effort in general). He generally looked like we just shoved a mediocre centre back into the heart of midfield without any instructions.

He was clearly the most at fault for their goal, but it wasn't surprising. He didn't track a runner all game and if Carrick, Vidic and Ferdinand didn't put in 9/10 performances we could have been a few down. I almost felt sorry for him at half time, everyone can see he hasn't got the technical ability to play in that position in that kind of game, which isn't his fault. However I then thought of the countless times their midfielders ghosted past him and he failed to track them or chase them, through sheer laziness, and that sympathy soon turned to anger.

It begs the question what Moyes' plan was for him: I'm assuming he was meant to be a box to box midfielder, but he lacks any of the qualities that I'd say are important to play this role. I said at the start of the season that pairing him with Carrick was suicide and starting him instead of Carrick in big games would be stupid. I still maintain that he should be a backup to give Carrick a rest when playing teams in the bottom half of the table.
Absolutely agree with every part of your post except him being back-up to Carrick. In his present form he should be no where near the club.
 

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I didn't have the stats, but they're bad, confirm what I was feeling watching the game.

Also, his technical ability is too limited for me. At one point in the second half he controlled a ball in the middle of the park with no one that close to him, and then when trying to move the ball just kicked it very far from him, chased it like a madman and under the pressure of a Bayern player, conceded a throw in. It was laughable.
I remember that moment.

 

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Absolutely agree with every part of your post except him being back-up to Carrick. In his present form he should be no where near the club.
I've said before in this thread that a strong manager would ship him out in the Summer. Recoup half of the fee, write off the other half and move forward with 2 new central midfielders. My respect for Moyes would soar if he did this, everyone makes mistakes but it takes a real man to admit and rectify them early and effectively.

However just like him taking Welbeck off last night instead of Rooney, I don't think Moyes has the balls to make strong, tough decisions. Therefore we will be stuck with him for 3-4 years, so might as well utilise him in a manner that can help the team - as a backup to Carrick.
 

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I didn't have the stats, but they're bad, confirm what I was feeling watching the game.

Also, his technical ability is too limited for me. At one point in the second half he controlled a ball in the middle of the park with no one that close to him, and then when trying to move the ball just kicked it very far from him, chased it like a madman and under the pressure of a Bayern player, conceded a throw in. It was laughable.
Yep, still waiting for the gif, it was one of highlowlights of the match.
 

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Therefore we will be stuck with him for 3-4 years, so might as well utilise him in a manner that can help the team - as a backup to Carrick.
3/4 years is a scary thought. A likely catalyst for giving up my season ticket.
 

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Michael Cox of Zonal Marking was on 5 Live after the game yesterday - and he posed the question of whether Moyes will possibly adopt Pep's tactics he used away against Dortmund... basically using Fellaini how Pep used Javi Martinez that day, by shoving him up front and winning long balls - thus completely negating Dortmund's pressing game....

Interesting thought - but I imagine this place would explode if Moyes went for such an approach!
If that gets us through Munich, I'd e-bitch slap anyone who complain. Always hold up the opinion that, United need to play beautiful and to win against lesser sides, but just need to win against good/better sides.
 

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He is technically so far off the required level. Against a team that pressed like Bayern, he was shown up even more in his ability to retain possession. I haven't seen any stats, but I am pretty sure the only times he kept the ball was when he turned and played it backwards to a defender, which he did practically every time he got the ball.

All the people praising his performance - okay, I get it. You have been brought up with a belief to never criticise a United player, but surely that couldn't honestly be considered a good performance on any level? I hope to God that he does not start the sceond leg. Against Liverpool, City and Bayern he has looked out of his depth on the deck compleetely. If the game is played at walking pace he may be able to swin, but when there is any speed, pressing and movement about it - he is lost.

His so-called physical presence is a joke too. He was repeatedly beaten in the air by David fecking Alaba last night.
 

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He looks so much more nervous at home than he does away. There's definitely a mental fragility that no one really noticed at Everton. The loud groans and boos from some utter simpletons in the crowd obviously don't help with that.
 

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You can put down his poor technical ability or him constantly losing possession to nerves/he'll take time to settle etc., but I have no clue why he seems unwilling to track back or work hard for the team. He's casually strolling about half the time. It can't just be a poor attitude? Maybe Moyes tells him to stay up field? Maybe he has stamina issues?
 

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The only good thing about him is that it's sometimes amusing watching him off the ball. He'll jog into a bad position, let his man run past him and then jog into another wrong position. He breaks that cycle occasionally by pushing someone or having a stroll to get his breath back from all the jogging.

I said it yesterday like but he really is more likely to try and push someone in the air than he is to challenge them for the ball. Nobody ever taught him to keep his hands to himself, the big balloon.
 

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Moyes seems to be relatively straight-talking with Fellaini; I think he's been told 'Just get the ball to the more-talented players ASAP' (Fellaini's mentioned this in interviews). But, given the paucity of creative talent we have at the moment, this instruction is a waste of everyone's time & can't do much for Fellaini's confidence.

Moyes is unlikely to sell him though, as the press would have an absolute field day if he did...which doesn't speak well of Moyes' confidence either.
 
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