What will it take to sack moyes?

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Woodward is a big Klopp fan. That'll be a good lead even if its an unlikely appointment. Van Gaal is looking for a job in the PL, if they look at this CV and have interviewed him they'll probably like what they hear too.

They're not football men but its not like we're trying to get a family of seals to understand Chinese literature.
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Moyes' sacking will be the best thing to happen to the club since Van Der Sar saved Anelka's penalty. Yes I'm aware we won 3 more titles and a couple of League Cups
 

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Can you imagine the joy here when he get sacked?

Can the caf take that strain?
 

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After the mess we saw today, i have no doubts that come the last match of the season, Moyes will be handed his pink slip. Even a blind man can see that Moyes is not up to the job. All we have to do is ride out the last 4 games and then sit back and watch the fallout.
 

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Hopefully we lose miserably in our final four games. Just want Moyes out now. Any enthusiasm or hope has been sucked from the club.
 

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Utterly destroying us and draining away the soul of our amazing club. Please for the love of god sack him before the damage becomes irreparable.
 

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No they aren't stupid they are about making money and moyes is hindering that. But who guides them on who to appoint as a replacement? They asked SAF and look how that turned out, do they ask him again? I just think there is no one to help them at the club and that will keep moyes in his job.
I don't think that they are totally clueless about football. Liverpool's management aren't football men, but look, they chose a terrific manager (after a lengthy process when they were interested for the likes of De Bour and Martinez too - shich shows that they know that stuff). I guess that the Glazers can do the same, and I guess that there are people who can help them.

If they ask Ferguson again for advice though, then I think that they are genuinely retarded and they have won all their money playing lotary.
 

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It would be a beautiful moment, but I can't see us sacking the cnut.
I can't actually imagine how good I'd feel. It would be surreal.

I actually find all this a bit strange in a sense. Saf always was a man who believed that football teams should entertain their fans. I've read some very strong statements from him in this regard. Did something change? Our football was dire in recent years, and then he goes ahead and picks David Moyes, whos Everton team managed to play dull football for almost a decade. That's just bit... Weird.
 

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Woodward is a big Klopp fan. That'll be a good lead even if its an unlikely appointment. Van Gaal is looking for a job in the PL, if they look at this CV and have interviewed him they'll probably like what they hear too.

They're not football men but its not like we're trying to get a family of seals to understand Chinese literature.
If SAF is saying he will turn it round I can see that persuading the glazers, you can't also dismiss the fact that this situation is completely unexpected, moyes was supposed to offer stability and continuity, finishing in the top 4 would have been taken for granted. I don't see an obvious plan b and think moyes will keep his job by default. The only 2 realistic candidates are klopp and van gaal, klopp doesn't seem like he will leave and van gaal isn't available until after the World Cup which I think will rule him out based on what happened last summer. So I see moyes keeping his job by default and benefit of the doubt.

I want him gone, I think he should have gone after the back to back defeats against Newcastle and Everton as I feel we could have saved the season but I just don't see it happening.
 

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The club won't want to sack him before the end of the season. There'd be no point and it'd be a bit mean spirited just to sack someone for the sake of a handful of largely meaningless games. IF he's going it'll be in the summer, not now. There'd almost be a lack of dignity to his dismissal if it happened now and whatever his ability to do the job is I think that's not something anyone really wants, much less anyone at the club.

It's a small but significant difference sacking someone at the tail-end of the season and doing it in the closed season. Not least to the stock-market one looks like a considered decision and the other a bit knee-jerk
 

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I don't think that they are totally clueless about football. Liverpool's management aren't football men, but look, they chose a terrific manager (after a lengthy process when they were interested for the likes of De Bour and Martinez too - shich shows that they know that stuff). I guess that the Glazers can do the same, and I guess that there are people who can help them.

If they ask Ferguson again for advice though, then I think that they are genuinely retarded and they have won all their money playing lotary.
What liverpool did is what we should have done in the first place, but it shows how much faith the owners have in SAF that he was allowed to pick his successor who was completely under qualified and if that faith is still intact moyes will keep his job.
 

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If SAF is saying he will turn it round I can see that persuading the glazers, you can't also dismiss the fact that this situation is completely unexpected, moyes was supposed to offer stability and continuity, finishing in the top 4 would have been taken for granted. I don't see an obvious plan b and think moyes will keep his job by default. The only 2 realistic candidates are klopp and van gaal, klopp doesn't seem like he will leave and van gaal isn't available until after the World Cup which I think will rule him out based on what happened last summer. So I see moyes keeping his job by default and benefit of the doubt.

I want him gone, I think he should have gone after the back to back defeats against Newcastle and Everton as I feel we could have saved the season but I just don't see it happening.
How do you know SAF hasn't privately changed his mind already? In public he would back Moyes no matter what. Plus the appointment is on his head and he may not be as involved in the club next season after starting his long term Harvard lecturing job next month.

And those 2 defeats would have been much too early on in the season/a kneejerk reaction, although I wouldn't have complained if they did. Like I said before, they will sack him end of season.
 

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The club won't want to sack him before the end of the season. There'd be no point and it'd be a bit mean spirited just to sack someone for the sake of a handful of largely meaningless games. IF he's going it'll be in the summer, not now. There'd almost be a lack of dignity to his dismissal if it happened now and whatever his ability to do the job is I think that's not something anyone really wants, much less anyone at the club.

It's a small but significant difference sacking someone at the tail-end of the season and doing it in the closed season. Not least to the stock-market one looks like a considered decision and the other a bit knee-jerk
This is the likeliest outcome, but I really want to be able to enjoy the last few matches of this bowel movement of a season without him and his vacant expression sat in our dugout.
 

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The club won't want to sack him before the end of the season. There'd be no point and it'd be a bit mean spirited just to sack someone for the sake of a handful of largely meaningless games. IF he's going it'll be in the summer, not now. There'd almost be a lack of dignity to his dismissal if it happened now and whatever his ability to do the job is I think that's not something anyone really wants, much less anyone at the club.

It's a small but significant difference sacking someone at the tail-end of the season and doing it in the closed season. Not least to the stock-market one looks like a considered decision and the other a bit knee-jerk
It's difficult though because if he goes now we have more time to find a replacement and if we are looking for one whilst he is still in the job and is telling everyone about his plans for the future when in reality it has been decided he has none then that isn't very dignified either.
 

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How do you know SAF hasn't privately changed his mind already? In public he would back Moyes no matter what. Plus the appointment is on his head and he may not be as involved in the club next season after starting his long term Harvard lecturing job next month.

And those 2 defeats would have been much too early on in the season/a kneejerk reaction, although I wouldn't have complained if they did. Like I said before, they will sack him end of season.
He may have changed his mind but he is close to moyes and believes in giving managers time so I would think he hasn't but you never know.

It would have been knee jerk at the time but it seems like a missed opportunity now, main reason I picked that time were his comments about not wanting to take RVP off because of what people might say, that was moment that for me he was basically saying job was too big for him.
 

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It's difficult though because if he goes now we have more time to find a replacement and if we are looking for one whilst he is still in the job and is telling everyone about his plans for the future when in reality it has been decided he has none then that isn't very dignified either.
That would be ace, telling to him that we are considering extending his contract and he will have a billion to spend this season, and then on the last day of the season to feck him off. Absolutely magnificient.

Being a bit more seriou, I think that we can look for a replacement while the clueless one is still on charge for the next 4 meaningful games, when among others he will turn another 2 corners, one for winning against Norwich and an another for playing very well but only drawin against Soton.
 

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He may have changed his mind but he is close to moyes and believes in giving managers time so I would think he hasn't but you never know.

It would have been knee jerk at the time but it seems like a missed opportunity now, main reason I picked that time were his comments about not wanting to take RVP off because of what people might say, that was moment that for me he was basically saying job was too big for him.
It wouldn't have been knee jerk at all, it would have saved our season. By that time it was clear that Moyes was and forever will be clueless.
 

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Seriously if the board doesn't sack him in the next two-three days, then they're poor business and morons.

Liverpool's success this season tells them that the manager can make a team play above their levels and this man is consistently downgrading the squad. He's managed to alienate half of the squad aswell. Nani, Kagawa, Hernandez, Vida, Rio and now Tony and Welbeck have complained about him. feck this man and let him go before he makes us like Liverpool of 90's.
 

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Seriously if the board doesn't sack him in the next two-three days, then they're poor business and morons.

Liverpool's success this season tells them that the manager can make a team play above their levels and this man is consistently downgrading the squad. He's managed to alienate half of the squad aswell. Nani, Kagawa, Hernandez, Vida, Rio and now Tony and Welbeck have complained about him. feck this man and let him go before he makes us like Liverpool of 90's.
What did Valencia say?
 

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Complained in a newspaper of not playing enough matches this season.
Valencia saying he hasn't played enough?! Up until the last few games he was almost guaranteed.

I'm hoping now its a case of when in the week than if that he goes
 

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I think its pointless trying to figure out when he gets sacked, resigns or a big red bus knocks some sense into him.

1. The club has made it clear that he's here for the long haul.
2. Big personalities have backed him through and through so far.
3. Ego's will be bruised if he doesn't get at least another season.

These are the 3 main reasons i think he won't go anytime soon and none of these reasons have anything to do with whats happening on the pitch.
 

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I was watching this:


Living across the Atlantic, it is very difficult for me to make a difference. Still, the word has to be spread in Manchester: we have 3 home games left to play and what the people said in that video has to be multiplied by dozens if not throughout the entire stadium now. It is time local supporters do what's right and declare open rebellion against this fool.
 

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Seriously if the board doesn't sack him in the next two-three days, then they're poor business and morons.

Liverpool's success this season tells them that the manager can make a team play above their levels and this man is consistently downgrading the squad. He's managed to alienate half of the squad aswell. Nani, Kagawa, Hernandez, Vida, Rio and now Tony and Welbeck have complained about him. feck this man and let him go before he makes us like Liverpool of 90's.
"He's your Roy Hodgson" is what a scouser said to me. Their supporters snapped after a while and the board had no choice but to sack him, it's obvious were going to back him until the end so it's down to board to make their move.
 

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Here's the crazy thing, I can still see him getting away with all this and getting another year. It's what annoys me so much.
 

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It wouldn't have been knee jerk at all, it would have saved our season. By that time it was clear that Moyes was and forever will be clueless.
It would have appeared knee jerk but you are right by then it was obvious he was not the right man. Moyes was a risk he was under qualified and as soon as he got the job he needed to ditch the underdog mentality, embrace the opportunity to manage a club like utd. It was a risk based on the idea he was being shackled at Everton but that has been proved wrong. He has struggled from day one and is still struggling, still out of his depth, no plan, no positives, no improvement but somehow he is still here.
 

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It would have appeared knee jerk but you are right by then it was obvious he was not the right man. Moyes was a risk he was under qualified and as soon as he got the job he needed to ditch the underdog mentality, embrace the opportunity to manage a club like utd. It was a risk based on the idea he was being shackled at Everton but that has been proved wrong. He has struggled from day one and is still struggling, still out of his depth, no plan, no positives, no improvement but somehow he is still here.
Who cares how it would have looked. Replacing him with a better manager (when it became clear that David Moyes will forever be David Moyes) would have saved us the season and would have been a great move on the long term. A lot of United thought that Liverpool sacking that clown Hodgson wasn't the right move and was a knee jerk reaction, but it has been proven that it was an excellent move by them. We didn't make the same move for our version (though even shiiter) of Hodgson.