Personally, I think we need someone who has won things as a manager rather than just a player in the immediate future. However I do think Giggs should be heavily invovled under the new management regime with an eye for the future.
Ryan Giggs: First press conference
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Wow. What a press conference. I finally feel positive, I finally see an actual way forward. I hate to make knee-jerk reactions to anything, but I think Giggs could well be a great manager for us. More inexperienced than Moyes, but its not all about experience, its about Style of play, passion. Giggs has stated his intent!
You go out there and tell people they have to win, they will go out and fight. You go out there and tell people to try, but don't worry because we are in transition, they will not give 110 percent.
I was worried about our big players wanting to leave because of Moyes, but I hope Giggs brings them all back together and we focus on 3 or 4 good transfers.
You go out there and tell people they have to win, they will go out and fight. You go out there and tell people to try, but don't worry because we are in transition, they will not give 110 percent.
I was worried about our big players wanting to leave because of Moyes, but I hope Giggs brings them all back together and we focus on 3 or 4 good transfers.
He speaks very well about the club...but that is to be expected, he was raised at the club!
Comparisons with DM are unavoidable but in truth it is a silly comparison.
Giggs tenure should be stress-free and fun! no expectations! just go out and try to score as many goals as possible
Comparisons with DM are unavoidable but in truth it is a silly comparison.
Giggs tenure should be stress-free and fun! no expectations! just go out and try to score as many goals as possible
I think we should do what any sensible organisation does in this situation. Go after anyone who ticks all the right boxes, but if we can only get someone who ticks some of them, look at promoting from within and taking the gamble rather than settling for something we already think isn't quite good enough.
Van Gaal seems the only realistic target at the moment and even the optimists think he'd be good for certain reasons and bad for others. Personally I'd worry he'd be a disaster.
Impressive from Ryan. I always thought he was a bit too on the quiet side for management but he comes across well there. Word is that behind the scenes he's no shrinking violet either. LVG to steady the ship and a handover to Giggsy at the right time looks a good strategy.
The problem for Giggs is that if ever does become manager permanently he will have to forget about his friendships and be as ruthless as any other manager. I'd imagine that would be quite a difficult thing to do.
I think Giggs would need an experienced coach alongside him and maybe even a DoF because he doesn't know how to buy and sell players, or even build a squad, and if we're honest then the squad needs a rebuild.
I hope he gets the job on a permanent basis. The only thing is, he lacks experience, and after Moyes' unfortunate time with the club, i'm not sure SAF and the board will want to make the same mistake.
You're right.
After a few games into Moyes' tenure this really is the first game I'm looking forward to this season.
Is it weird i'm loving this? My head is saying get Van Gaal in and sign a left back, my heart is saying "feck that, give Giggs a 20 year deal and sign 6 strikers."
He gets United in the way that Moyes never could.
Did he use "try" or "hope" at all?
Did he use "try" or "hope" at all?
Certainly not. As much as we'd all love Giggsy to take over, after Moyes' horrendous tenure, I think we need somebody with the experience and reputation to get us back to where we need to be as quickly as possible. Van Gaal will do that.
Giggs' time will come again.
It's crazy how he has lifted the mood to a point where the fans can't wait for the game on Saturday. Sadly, it was something Moyes always lacked. Giggs on the hand just says all the right things and has the charisma to pull it off.
I'd obviously rather give Giggs 6 years to make it his team, than give Moyes 6 to make it his. Now I'd like a manager who will only want to stay for two, three or four years and who would know that he's there to teach Giggs things he'll need to learn before taking over full time.
First press conference for ages I've actually enjoyed, first game I'm looking forward to for months. This season has been such a major let down but just seeing and listening to Giggsy has given me a massive boost. I don't actually care that we're seventh.
Tearing them apart since 1991. Long may it continue!
Tearing them apart since 1991. Long may it continue!
Being Dutch, I've seen quite a few club legends taking over as a manager at the club they were successful as a player in recent years. Van Basten at Ajax, Frank de Boer at Ajax and Philip Cocu at PSV come to mind. Van Basten was completely out of his depth even though he was pretty successful at the Dutch National team before that.
Cocu has looked completely out of his depth and PSV are having their worst season ever. Frank de Boer is brilliant though, now winning his 4th consecutive league title. But he was born to be a coach, just natural talent, and they reorganized Ajax on Cruijffs' advice, making Overmars Director of Football, Van der Sar marketing director and he will be future president of Ajax if he turns out to be suited for the club, so it's a perfect situation for them. Guardiola did really well, but he coached Barca B and like Frank de Boer, he's just born to be a coach. Giggs doesn't strike me as that type.
All in all, I would say Giggs would be too much of a gamble, odds on he'll fail for sure. But for the time being and perhaps in a couple of years, who knows.
Not worried at all that Van Gaal will be a disaster. Although I am Dutch, I don't really like him. He tried to betray Ajax two years ago to get a job as president/director there and basically the man is a nut-job.
But I must say that without a doubt LVG would be the best thing for us, I bet my life on it he'll have us competing for the league title next year, the man is a bit paranoid and can be very stubborn, but he truly is a world class manager and would add a lot more to United than his negatives will cost us.
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On the contrary Moyes did his best to dampen the mood, lower expectation, talk up how tough it was going to be, how difficult we had to make it for the opposition and that we would hopefully try to do something.
Giggs has come in and taken the handbrake off. Wants the players to enjoy themselves, express themselves, be brave, try things, run at players. None of this worrying about what the opposition could do if we lose the ball, but focussing on what we can do when we have it. First time since Fergie left that our manager has spoken like a Man Utd manager.
Giggs could be our Guardiola. I wouldn't mind giving him a year. I don't see how he could do any worse than Moyes. But a 2-3 apprenticeship under Van Gaal or whoever probably makes more sense.
Anyone got a video that hasn't been taken down of the whole thing?
Reading between the lines (Giggs, Butt) the shackles have been taken of players.
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Problem is we're in no position now to take any more major risks. It's time for us to try and play it safe, at least for the time being.
Not to a kick man when he's down, but Moyes leaving seems to have lifted huge weight off the clubs shoulders. You just get the feeling that the players and staff will be more up it now and they have even enjoyed this week even more, some might even be relieved.
I loved Giggs' presser and I am confident he will be United manager in some years, but not now, absolutely not please. All he knows is SAF which is great, and all the club knows is SAF which is great, but right now we really need to catch up with other European teams in terms of tactics, coaching and style of play. Just get someone in who fits that bill and ideally Giggs would be in his coaching set-up. Then in a few years if he becomes our manager he can combine SAF's, the next manager's and his own ideas.
3.13...yes...
On MUTV he said: "We're Man Utd, we're at home, and we expect to win".
Refreshing.
Refreshing.
Ryan Giggs did something in his first press conference that David Moyes never did at United. He won the press conference.
I get the excitement in here, and I feel the exact same way. But the suggestions that he should be considered on a permanent basis are pretty ridiculous.
So many people in here saying he seems a natural. need to wait until United lose and are heavily scrutinised. It's very easy to be composed and relaxed when everyone is behind you.
Obviously would hate to see it, but it would be interesting to see what his reaction would be with United losing a couple of big games and the media turning against him. I think our players would be very quick to lose respect for him, considering his lack of managerial experience.
So many people in here saying he seems a natural. need to wait until United lose and are heavily scrutinised. It's very easy to be composed and relaxed when everyone is behind you.
Obviously would hate to see it, but it would be interesting to see what his reaction would be with United losing a couple of big games and the media turning against him. I think our players would be very quick to lose respect for him, considering his lack of managerial experience.
When Giggs said before the Munich 1st leg "We don't see ourselves as underdogs, we are United playing at OT" it was all over the German sports news
Hope we put 3 or 4 past Norwich and players like Januzaj get a game, it would be the perfect tonic to see everyone happy and vibrant after the worst season in my lifetime as a united supporter.
I wish we had a Man City, Chelsea or Liverpool between now and the end of the season and battered them. Surely that'd convince the board to keep him.
I think the main things for Giggs if he is going to considered for the job, although I think it's unlikely, is that:
He motivates the players
Working hard off the ball
Gets us playing attacking football
Convincing performances
Win the games
I think the main things for Giggs if he is going to considered for the job, although I think it's unlikely, is that:
He motivates the players
Working hard off the ball
Gets us playing attacking football
Convincing performances
Win the games
Absolutely!
the part that impressed me was the small part he said about last weeks performance a bit of steel their me thinks
And what if we don't lose, don't get heavily scrutinized and instead play great and win all our games with ease? Why is that so ridiculous? He could be a bad manager and he could also be a good one but he shouldn't be labeled either before he's even had a game in charge. That's what is ridiculous for me.
So strange hearing a press conference without the words "try" or "hopefully" being used!
Zanetti and Giggsy, what a great picIs it weird i'm loving this? My head is saying get Van Gaal in and sign a left back, my heart is saying "feck that, give Giggs a 20 year deal and sign 6 strikers."
This 1000%
I think Giggs is far tougher than a lot of people think. Beneath that boyish exterior is a determined, and yes, sometimes ruthless winner. I see quite a lot of Fergie in him actually. Hardly surprising as was a father figure to all of them.
What's with the 10.30pm embargo for the second part of the conference? Or have I understood that wrong?