Think we'll be hearing he has signed on Monday to be honest.
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Retirement and coaching career[edit]
On 29 April 2008, Dutch media reported that Kluivert would take part in the coaching course of the Dutch Football Association (KNVB) to become a professional football coach.[10]TheKNVBrequires that all coaching badge candidates complete this sort of apprenticeship. On 18 July 2008, it was reported on the football websiteGoal.comthat Kluivert would be spending the 2008–09 season as a member of the backroom coaching staff ofEredivisieclubAZ.
On 21 March 2009, while having an interview onSoccer AM, Kluivert said he is currently coaching the strikers at AZ. On 24 January 2010, Kluivert agreed to a two-week coaching stint withA-LeaguesideBrisbane Roar.[11]On 19 May 2010, Kluivert told journalists he ruled out a comeback as a football player.[12]From August 2010 on, he was an assistant-coach forN.E.C., coaching the strikers. In the 2011–12 season, he coached theFC Twenteyouth team.
In August 2012, Kluivert joined the Netherlands national team coaching staff to work under head coachLouis van Gaal.[13]
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During his first season as a coach he guided theFC Twentereserve side to the championship in the reserve competition. He said that he was disappointed at the lack of interest his former club Ajax had shown when he started his training career.[this quote needs a citation]The club offered him the opportunity to become an assistant coach but at a low level (the 7- and 8-year-olds), which he found insulting.[citation needed]Instead he worked his way up by working forAZ,N.E.C.andBrisbane Roar, and his first independent coaching job[clarification needed]atFC Twente.
Not sure about Kluivert . His wife has been diagnosed with cancer last year , not sure if he is willing to move .
He said he'd be happy to join Van Gaal at United if asked. It was in a talksport interview linked on a previous page.
Pretty much all the papers tomorrow going with Van Gaal has the job and Giggs as assistant.
Oh... that's really awful. Hope she will recover.
Maybe you should study his football career?!!! Thick?? What a clumpsy statement.
Right. He did a tremendous work. Bayern in 2008/09 was just shambles. From this team there is just 4 persons left today - Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Ribery and van Buyten (who ain't playing much but is still a very good supersub)
He brought system and philosophy, cleared the team from the bad apples, did a lot groundwork and teaching, brought in Müller, Badstuber, Contento, Alaba from youth (so after his first matches Alaba went on a half year loan), switched Schweinsteiger from offensive winger to central midfielder and implemented Robben.
A lot of that structure was especially seen in the 4:0 against Barcelona - what Heynckes did was mainly strengthening the defense (getting the wingers to work and the pressing style) and carressing the souls. (So Heynckes made a lot mistakes in his first year - but in his second he somehow reinvented himself. At the begin of the second year of Heynckes time we were already counting days until the end of the season as we new that Hoeness will never fire him again. But until halftime of the season he had my backing as he really changed).
I have the 7:1 final of eights of 08/09 against Sporting Lissabon on my computer - the changes to the next year are tremendous. If you just watch how they improved their passing an position play.
Van Gaal for sure has his flaws - but I see them more in his relations with the media or other heads in the club. A lot of his ex-players really love him - the Ajax bunch are all backing him and the guys at Barcelona are still in good contact. And yes - he sorts out players and he is very direct with them - not all of them talk well about him later... He is very direct but I think he is fair, too. He will tell what he thinks and tell a player if he matches with his system - but as seen with Gomez he gives them chances and really appreciates it if they work on changes. And he just is a great teacher.
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Holy shit.I'm not talking about him as a player, I'm talking about him as a person. I just have a vague recollection from watching interviews with him in his playing days of someone who didn't strike me as the sharpest knife in the drawer. A bit like Rooney, if you will. I apologize for any personal offense you may have taken.
Not sure whether to laugh or cry
Glad this is being finalized. Closes the door on that crazy idea of Giggsy becoming the permanent manager. Makes it even sweeter if Giggsy actually stays as assistant.
Interesting the club has issued denials, yet van Gaal is nowhere to be found...
Denials are very tightly worded-United say that they have not signed a new manager. Given that Van Gaal's still employed-not sure how he could sign another contract.
Seems like way too much chatter about Van Gaal for the stories about him not to be true.
Be interested to see what happens when the NY Stock Exchange opens Monday...
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He knows how to pump up a crowd in the midst of celebrations, that's for sure.
edit: he did something similar with AZ the year before.
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Good stuff.
Even if this doesn't eventually work out, I think appointing someone with proper credentials is important for Manchester United right now. We might not always be at the top but hiring the best candidate for the job is the right habit we should get into. Moyes was a weird choice where factors such as nationality and loyalty became more important than quality, and those clamouring for giggs are doing something similar. Time to do what is sensible from here on and hire the best man.
I am glad that Van Gaal broke out into some embarrassing dad dancing at the end of that video. It took some much needed edge off that Hitler-esque performance!
Hmm... Nothing overly special but this article brings up two interesting (new?) points
1) Whoever's manager next season is being demanded to win the title.
2) Patrick Kluivert will be wanted by LVG as his assistant manager.
Like every newspaper. No real foundation to it but here you go...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...m-whichever-manager-succeeds-David-Moyes.html
1) Whoever's manager next season is being demanded to win the title.
2) Patrick Kluivert will be wanted by LVG as his assistant manager.
Like every newspaper. No real foundation to it but here you go...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...m-whichever-manager-succeeds-David-Moyes.html
@ Daily Mail trying to get him to talk! Encouraging to hear that he'll include Giggs and co. in his set up - although I don't trust that information one bit.Someone who will not think of himself as bigger than the club.
Seems pretty obvious that it's Van Gaal. I'd be interested to know if we've spoken to anyone else or whether it's like last time where we apparently only spoke to The Chosen One.
Such as?
Not much we can do if the rest aren't willing to talk. We probably put feelers out to Ancelotti and Klopp's through intermediaries just in case, but were told "no thanks". It's slim pickings this time around compared to last time.
He's a very good manager but everyone seems to be convinced that he "built" the modern Barca and Bayern which is simply not true in my opinion. He took over Cruyff's "Dream Team" at Barca, which was one of the best teams in the world at the time (if not the best), did very well on the domestic stage and not so well in Europe. He then managed to start a fight against pretty much everyone around him, including the players who won him those titles. Stoichkov, Rivaldo (best player in the world at the time) to name a few. After a massive feud with the media and completely destroying the harmony and unity in the team he left Barca. The next few years they were in obvious decline, managers and players came and went and didn't really win anything. He then returned to Barca only to be fired after a few months with a disastrous record. He didn't "build" anything there. Quite the opposite actually.
It was pretty much the same in Bayern. By the time of his dismissal, he had alienated players and members of the Bayern board alike. Most of them were more than glad to see him go. "Problems were created which were totally unnecessary and which have ripped the club to pieces. And to say that he had the players behind him was a myth." - Hoeness.
As I said, he's a brilliant coach who knows a lot about football and I expect us to have great results under him. However, I don't think his influence would be good for the club.
The thing is, many of his ex-players are quoted saying that his players love him.
Van Gaal took over from Robson, not Cruyff. And the team he won titles with was quite different from Cruyff's.
Not getting along with the likes of Stoichkov and Rivaldo aren't marks against anyone's character. Stoichkov was over the hill anyway and he still got the best years out of Rivaldo while there.
Agree that he didn't leave a good team structure behind him there though.
Not getting along with the likes of Stoichkov and Rivaldo aren't marks against anyone's character. Stoichkov was over the hill anyway and he still got the best years out of Rivaldo while there.
Agree that he didn't leave a good team structure behind him there though.
I have been looking at a Bayern forum and opinions are mixed. Quite a few credit him with bringing Bayern out of the dark ages in football terms. I saw a quote posted by Hoeness in 2009 where he says 'Bayern will only ever play 4-4-2with two strong strikers'. Not only do quite a few of them credit him with promoting and evolving some of their better players but they also see him as starting the tactical philosophy that led to their recent success.
I thought the Gary Neville interview also gave an indication as to how real these rumors are.
The last bit is interesting. We seem to have once again identified our manager very quickly. It is strange to me, I would have thought that it would make sense to talk and meet a number of managers and listen to their ideas. Then again, the other one spoken about is Giggs so maybe it's better to get this wrapped up quickly as well.
So was Moyes asked to pick the new manager then?
It would, but once you've decided to go for a proven winner, Van Gaal is the only one open for talks. It's him or unproven.
Or we've led the talks with LVG / other candidates much earllier. Sacking could've been on the wall for Moyes and if we're to believe the reports, it started around February.
Maybe it's just the 'glass half full' guy in me, but where I read feud I think nonconformist, and where I read not getting along with so-and-so I think integrity.
And, all applicable to Fergie.
And, all applicable to Fergie.
I think it is likely the truth. If not official contact then we've certainly had our ears to the ground. It's just the same as players. A search for a player doesn't start the moment a manage identifies a vacancy, it's a constant ongoing process. Same as a manager. I don't think the reason we gave for the timing of the sacking is true. I don't think we sat down Tuesday morning with a clean pad and started brainstorming names. Maybe we were just conscious that our overtures towards candidates was likely to become a bit more obvious or traceable from that moment on.
Indeed the whole thread was started about a rumour a few weeks ago we met van Gaal, strenuously denied at the time by the club but it's obviously true.
Great read that, hopefully Van Gaal has the same effect on our side.
Exactly.
The idea that we've just spoken to one person is ridiculous.
He was always going to be near top of list, only people above are arguably mourinho and possibly ancelotti, maybe also klopp.
No reason why sncelotti would leave madrid unless sacked. God knows with mourinho, possible United are still too unsure about him. Klopp will be incredibly expensive to get out of contact and if he's not willing to break that contact our to push a move away is incredibly difficult to get him.
We have to get it out of our heads that just because we are United We should be able to get the best in world regardless of their situation, that's just not going to happen.
I do feel, however, that the delay in appointing van gaal (and at this point it certainly feels like a delay) may be due to seeing what happens with ancelotti. Lot of rumours that he is woodwards favourite
We also have to be very careful how we approach people. You can't have a manager come in and the press know he wasn't your first choice.
I'm sure there's a 'he was always our first choice' template press release lying around somewhere. No reason not to be eclectic about this.
It worked for Liverpool.
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