Cheers aldo.
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Not that bad? You made the "Red Wedding" in Game of Thrones look PG rated.It wasnt that bad.
Was a brilliant game to be honest, enjoyed it a lot! Knew from beforehand that a theme would only go to a semi or at the very best to a final if I was lucky. Will be great to follow the final!
@Aldo You can start the game today, you already have my write up
Not sure why you say this. MJJ also had a theme going and if he rounds it off he could be walking the final. The difficulty with themes is pulling off those that can realistically win* and both themes on display in the semi were worthy of a draft win. You did lack a bit of cutting edge (e.g. Villa/Henry instead of Silva) and Cannavaro was a bit lost, but come the final you would have been firing on all cylinders.
Shouldn't have got embroiled in various arguments comparing games from teams which had bugger all to do with those on display at their peak. That will only ever dilute Barca, since everyone on here would know how good MJJs team could be and wouldn't buy any bollocks arguments about them.
*not a "favourite Bundesliga players ever" theme
@BaluOf course it depends on what you define as a theme, although the difficulty level increases the more you narrow the theme down. A theme can be "All players who can play 4-4-1-1" which is near every player and another theme may be "van Gaal's Ajax side between 93 and 94". A theme in itself doesn't define how limited/difficult said theme is nor how strict one follows it.Not sure why you say this. MJJ also had a theme going and if he rounds it off he could be walking the final. The difficulty with themes is pulling off those that can realistically win* and both themes on display in the semi were worthy of a draft win. You did lack a bit of cutting edge (e.g. Villa/Henry instead of Silva) and Cannavaro was a bit lost, but come the final you would have been firing on all cylinders.
*not a "favourite Bundesliga players ever" theme
I don't think my ideal 4-3-3 would stand a chance in the voters eyes. Puyol/Abidal/T.Silva would always look weaker than Cafu/Carlos/Thuram/Nesta. Henry-Messi-Robben would also fall short against Ronaldinho-Rivaldo-Ronaldo and my midfield would not win the votes against Keane-Davids-Scholes or Keane-Scholes-Zidane.
My midfield fell short in terms of creating chances against Rooney and Fabregas, had he removed them for Davids/Scholes and Zidane I would be absolutely chanceless as I wouldn't improve my side much.
I think you are giving too much credit to "superteams". You only really lacked a bit more cutting edge. The score difference wasn't really that much about one team being clearly superior and more to do with you not playing Werewolf.
What's happening then?
Ever would be damn strong though. Something like:*not a "favourite Bundesliga players ever" theme
Müller Rummenigge
Netzer
Breitner Matthäus
Brehme Schwarzenbeck Beckenbauer Kohler Lahm
Maier
Is the Bundesliga the only top league that wouldn't have a foreign player in it? At least I can't think of anyone, who should make the team.Netzer
Breitner Matthäus
Brehme Schwarzenbeck Beckenbauer Kohler Lahm
Maier
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Still no word from @Theon
@Balu Maier and not Kahn?
I usually pick Maier, yes. I change my mind about it quite often though, not much in it, if you compare their peak.
Yeah both fecking superb. Is it a consensus that Maier had the better peak in Germany?
With that defence there's no debate, it has to be Maier.
You wouldn't win a draft with it though, no width
You wouldn't win a draft with it though, no width
No, not really. No one really cares who's better out of those two. In an alltime Bayern eleven, I usually choose Kahn, because that 70's team is usually well represented anyway and Kahn's impact on the team between 98 and 02 was arguably bigger than Maier's in the 70's. For Germany, it's always Maier. You can't argue against 2 international titles (and a 3rd consecutive final) with a stand-out performance in the worldcup final played at home in Munich.
That's fair enough, whenever I try think about Bayern then his is the first name and face that comes to mind. Everyone else is a very distant second bar Effenberg. Arguably more instrumental than Schmeichel for us, and that's saying something! Maier would be more what VDS was for us, not something to be sniffed at, but there were more conspicuous contributors.
Kahn finished 3rd at the Ballon d'Or in 2001, when we won the CL. Lizarazu and Effenberg were the next Bayern players but both were outside of the top 10. I think that tells you the whole story. Rarely had a goalkeeper such a huge impact on a European top team and was the stand-out player for years.
Agree with this. Kahn was outstanding for Bayern, hugely influencing many Champions League ties between 1998 and 2002. His international CV isn't quite as impressive though especially when compared to Maier. At those lofty heights you have to pick holes and Kahn was a bit soft in the 2002 final and the 2001 play-off with England. Not that he was anything but peerless prior to the Brazil game.
@Balu Sammer gets no joy? Or with Kaiser there, he is extra weight?
I haven't thought too much about that line-up, to be honest. Sammer makes no sense with Beckenbauer in defense and Breitner and Matthäus in midfield. It's just overkill. You probably could leave Schwarzenbeck out and include a 3rd attacker. But we don't have too many left wingers who individually deserve to be in an alltime XI. The more I think about it, it probably should be Ribery instead of Schwarzenbeck with Kohler - Beckenbauer as the centerbacks in a back four.
I could turn it more into a favourite eleven and you could make a case that Brehme and Matthäus peaked in Italy, not in Germany, and should be replaced in a Bundesliga XI. I'd love to include Hacki Wimmer in midfield for example. More Gladbach players from the 70's deserve to be in it. My favourite club side to watch, no German team ever played as beautiful as they did and the 7-1 win against Inter in 1971 was football in perfection.
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@Aldo any word from Theon? This needs to move along now otherwise it will start to drag.
Nothing at all.
Hell, this is football drama at its finest!
@Aldo - You need to set a deadline for this mate, that's what we did for Fergus' team. Will have to look for someone else to take over the team
He's not been online for a week or so, so if someone wants to take over now they can.
I'm not running anything mate. What's next is the one with the players from WC teams based on this season's performances.
I dont mind either way.
I won't take over his team for him, but I can manage it for him in a semi final until he returns if nobody else wants too.
If you win who is going to do the transfers?
I think it should just be final of MJJ vs Aldo. Save the headache
Harsh on crappy that
Wasn't the semi supposed to be Aldo vs Pol/Theon?
No, its crappy vs those two.Pol/Theon have got such a fantastic team that I'm surprised nobody wants to steam in and take the glory Cruyff-style.
Maybe because last time Theon went AWOL before a semi he promptly dumped the caretaker manager after it?
Seriously, we've been here before and it's fecking ridiculous. No show = loss, don't give two shits about which was the better team. It's unfair on crappy (and everyone, really) to have left him waiting. The players themselves are disappointed and demoralised, all hoping to get picked up for the final by someone else.
I agree. Just give the win to crappy so that we can move on to the reinforcements and the final.