Suarez bites | "sorry for falling into him and biting him and that"

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I think he's reluctant to change his ways or try to, because he knows how important he is to the national team. Either that or he's genuinely one of few footballers with mental or to a lesser degree severe anger issues. He was so well behaved for us this whole season as well, why does he self destruct like this ffs.
This intriques me as well, as to what's behind the motives of his biting

1. If he really wants to hurt chiellini, there are various other ways he can do so without attracting all this (late tackle, elbow, etc)
2. If he wants to move, surely even he's not that dumb to know that doing this will do him no benefit
3. Asking for penalty? Red card? seems like an idiot thing to do, with all the cameras watching

Really baffling, I don't know what's in his head, but surely... he's not that dumb to do so for the third time and thinking he'll get away with it? With the TV camera capturing everything in High Definition and 3D

If it's instinctively , i really fear for his mental health
 

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Suarez lawyer, Uruguay FA board member Alejandro Balbi, on #URU radio:

"We don't have any doubts that this has happened because it's Suarez and secondly because Italy was eliminated,
"There's a lot of pressure from England and Italy. We're polishing off a defence argument."
"There is a possibility that they ban him, because there are precedents, but we're convinced that it was an absolutely
casual play
, because if Chiellini can show a scratch on one shoulder, Suarez can show a bruised and almost shut eye."
"You shouldn't forget that we're rivals of many and we can be for the organiser (hosts Brazil) in the future.
"This does not go against what might have happened, but there's no doubt that Suarez is a rock in the shoe for many."
"We're going to use all the arguments possible so that Luis gets out in the best possible way."

all via. https://twitter.com/Masters_JamesD

(Bolding is mine, because that's just hilarious)
What kind of an idiot lawyer would want to take this kind of "no win" case?

At best you'll get a plea bargain, but pleading innocence???
 

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This intriques me as well, as to what's behind the motives of his biting

1. If he really wants to hurt chiellini, there are various other ways he can do so without attracting all this (late tackle, elbow, etc)
2. If he wants to move, surely even he's not that dumb to know that doing this will do him no benefit
3. Asking for penalty? Red card? seems like an idiot thing to do, with all the cameras watching

Really baffling, I don't know what's in his head, but surely... he's not that dumb to do so for the third time and thinking he'll get away with it? With the TV camera capturing everything in High Definition and 3D

If it's instinctively , i really fear for his mental health

You assume he has a brain!...
 

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Australian Rules Football (AFL stands for Australian Football League).

YouTube some highlights or big hits and great marks if you want to see something.
It looks tame on the Telly, but i'm sure the blows received is tremendous on everygame.

Although to be fair, the American Football looks bloodier on telly (even with all that pads)
 

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Rodgers made him train alone after the transfer stuff last summer.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...odgers-blasts-wantaway-Liverpool-striker.html

Rodgers last summer: 'I will take strong, decisive action. There has been total disrespect of the club - this is a club that is historically one of the biggest in the world and has given him everything; absolutely everything.'

I know this stuff is nectar to some on here but spinning this directly against Liverpool is a stretch. As for Rodgers, his work with his squad has been extremely impressive and Suarez has benefitted from his management which has not been the exercise in sycophancy you suggest.
That was rather disingenuous of both Rodgers and Liverpool when they subsequently admitted there was indeed a release clause in his contract.
 

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Given Liverpool's reaction to the racism thing and his team-mates reaction to the latest controversy, it does perhaps indicate nobody close to home has ever told him what a vile, reprehensible little prick he is. Maybe this is part of the reason why he keeps doing it. He misbehaves; "isn't the rest of the world awful to him?"
 

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Given Liverpool's reaction to the racism thing and his team-mates reaction to the latest controversy, it does perhaps indicate nobody close to home has ever told him what a vile, reprehensible little prick he is. Maybe this is part of the reason why he keeps doing it. He misbehaves; "isn't the rest of the world awful to him?"
The Liverpool paranoia has always been good for toothy in telling him they think he's done no wrong.
 

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What kind of an idiot lawyer would want to take this kind of "no win" case?

At best you'll get a plea bargain, but pleading innocence???
It's astonishing, the only reason Chiellini throws an elbow in the fist place is because he's got some rabid fecking nut case trying to bite a chunk out of his shoulder for no reason what so ever.
 

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Right, because "manning up" definitely involves hairpulling, eyegouging, achilles raking, serial biting, and pretending to be hurt so you can escape sanction for all the above. Good. If Suarez and his apologists are your role models for masculinity, it's no wonder you and your Scouse ilk are serial losers. You disgust me. Cowards to a "man."
:lol:

You are an absolutely joyless and miserable git.
 

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From the BBC:
"The hearing into Luis Suarez's alleged bite on Italy's Giorgio Chiellini will continue on Thursday, says the head of the Uruguay Football Association."

I sincerely hope that the extra time they need is to get their calculators out and work out what century he will be allowed back to play and not to decide whether he actually did it or not.
Also - the reactions of the Uruguayan team and FA are absolutely astonishing. I can understand wanting to keep your best player, but there comes a point when you simply cannot pretend nothing happened. It reflects extremely poorly on the integrity of everyone connected with that team. I guess that shouldn't be surprising in today's game, but I find it pretty depressing the depths to which people will sink in order to win a game of football........
 

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From the BBC:
"The hearing into Luis Suarez's alleged bite on Italy's Giorgio Chiellini will continue on Thursday, says the head of the Uruguay Football Association."

I sincerely hope that the extra time they need is to get their calculators out and work out what century he will be allowed back to play and not to decide whether he actually did it or not.
Also - the reactions of the Uruguayan team and FA are absolutely astonishing. I can understand wanting to keep your best player, but there comes a point when you simply cannot pretend nothing happened. It reflects extremely poorly on the integrity of everyone connected with that team. I guess that shouldn't be surprising in today's game, but I find it pretty depressing the depths to which people will sink in order to win a game of football........
Why not read up on why the FA shouldn't be judged as a pro organisation before repeating the same shit over and over? It's effectively run by the chap wearing the NTs mascot costume. No kidding.

The government has now stepped in to state they will not intervene. As if it were within their remit. They must be concerned though, they got the entire FA leadership changed only a few months ago and any ban on Suarez will be pinned back on them as FIFA were really pissed off about that.

It's not outlandish. FIFA have never taken retrospective action in the middle of a tourno before, and rarely do much about anything so it could easily be argued this has turned into an opportunity to hit back and make an example of how governments shouldn't interfere with football affairs.

Awesome, serves the twats right :lol:
 

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Somewhere, in some remote cave, Kenny Daglish is rocking back and forth in the fetal position, agreeing with every word the Uruguayan FA are saying.
 

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So they're actually going with the 'he didn't do anything' defence?

5 year olds all over the world with chocolate around their mouths soon learn that 'I didn't touch the biscuits' doesn't work.

What the feck is wrong with these idiots?
 

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It looks tame on the Telly, but i'm sure the blows received is tremendous on everygame.

Although to be fair, the American Football looks bloodier on telly (even with all that pads)
I agree. The game has been sanitized deliberately over the last decade.

The league has really tried to take a lot of the big hits and potential injury-causing scenarios out of the game. We've had a legend retire somewhat prematurely (was most likely his last or at least second last season) just last week due to sustaining repeat concussions over the years.

They've realised that there is a huge risk of retired players having metal issues post their career due to concussions and the knocks they receive. The game was dirty and only the toughest would survive in the 80's, but now it's more focused on the skill and athleticism side.

Having said that I play every Saturday, and always have a variety of bruises and sores to complain about every week.
 

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This intriques me as well, as to what's behind the motives of his biting

1. If he really wants to hurt chiellini, there are various other ways he can do so without attracting all this (late tackle, elbow, etc)
2. If he wants to move, surely even he's not that dumb to know that doing this will do him no benefit
3. Asking for penalty? Red card? seems like an idiot thing to do, with all the cameras watching
I think number 3. Looking for a penalty in a creative way by getting the player to react strongly. Right place, right time for a bite. It sort of looks like Suarez is running behind him and Chiellini has thrown an arm back and knocked him in the mouth. Penalty!

Reminds me of Liverpool vs Zenit. A defender was running back towards their own goal watching the left wing waiting for a cross to be put in. Suarez running behind him is too far back to bite, but he actually stretches out his leg in order to rake his studs down the back of the defenders leg to take him out and leave him one on one with the keeper for when the cross comes in.
 

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A little perspective perhaps ? Though due to the tribal nature of football it's maybe asking too much. It was a weird, idiotic, unbelievable (this after all being the World Cup) and frankly totally insane act and fully deserving of a substantial ban and fine, there simply can be no defence, he doesn't deserve it. He didn't though eat a baby (though some say he would given the chance) or add cyanide to the aquifer. Therefore this makes interesting reading after the initial shock :

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...k-value-and-get-some-perspective-9563690.html

[article=[url]http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/worldcup/luis-suarez-bite-lets-move-past-the-shock-value-and-get-some-perspective-9563690.html]Luis[/url] Suarez bite: Let’s move past the shock value and get some perspective

Glenn Moore

Danny Mills would send him to jail, Alan Shearer would ban him worldwide for “as long as I could”, which under Fifa statutes is two years. What heinous crime could Luis Suarez have committed to prompt such a response from two players who were not exactly shrinking violets on the field?

He bit someone.

He did not fix a match, which strikes at the very heart of sport. He did not use performance-enhancing drugs, which is the most insidious form of cheating. He did not go over the top and break an opponent’s leg, or shatter an opponent’s nose or cheekbone with an elbow. He did not attack a referee (he has done that, head-butting an official, but that was 11 years ago when he was playing youth team football at 16 and he received a long ban).

In my mind these are all worse acts than biting an opponent, especially given it was in the heat of the moment, and he did not pursue the act long enough to draw blood.

What he did was disgusting and horrible, sets a terrible example and would be deeply unpleasant to be a victim of. But Giorgio Chiellini played on. If Suarez had broken his leg with a reckless, even premeditated tackle (it happens) he would have been out until Christmas.

Suarez needs psychiatric help, not a jail sentence. He deserves to be banned, ideally for the duration of the World Cup with a longer sentence suspended on condition he has professional treatment, but is his offence really deserving of a longer ban than a player who has threatened the livelihood of another? It is the shock value, and the recidivism, which has accounted for the publicity and outrage.

There is also, clearly, a cultural issue. In Italy, according to a SkyItalia reporter, they are more interested in assessing who is to blame for the Azzurri being out of the World Cup at the group stage (Mario Balotelli appears to be receiving more blame than Suarez). In Brazil the incident seems to be regarded as comedy rather than horror.

In England, however, Suarez is beyond the pale. Diving, biting, cheating: he fits our stereotype of the South American footballing bad guy, the latest in a long line stretching back past Diego Maradona to Antonio Rattin. There is also a place, it should be said, for lovable South Americans, such as Ossie Ardiles, Gus Poyet, and all things Brazilian.

And yet, if the behaviour of Uruguayan Suarez is so reprehensible, how is it Dylan Hartley is still being picked for England’s rugby union team? The hooker was banned for eight weeks for biting the finger of Ireland’s Steven Ferris in a Six Nations international in 2012 – and a finger is rather more vulnerable than a shoulder. Nor was it his first, or last, offence. In 2007 Hartley was banned for six months for eye gouging, which, considering the possible consequences, is far worse than nibbling on a shoulder. He was also banned for punching an opponent and for abusing a referee. Last week this serial offender started for England against New Zealand, his 56th cap. No one seemed to be outraged.[/article]
 

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I read today that before Suarez did what he did, Jim Beglin on Irish TV said the Uruguay vs Italy game "needed some bite".
 

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A little perspective perhaps ? Though due to the tribal nature of football it's maybe asking too much. It was a weird, idiotic, unbelievable (this after all being the World Cup) and frankly totally insane act and fully deserving of a substantial ban and fine, there simply can be no defence, he doesn't deserve it. He didn't though eat a baby (though some say he would given the chance) or add cyanide to the aquifer. Therefore this makes interesting reading after the initial shock :

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...k-value-and-get-some-perspective-9563690.html

[article=[url]http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/worldcup/luis-suarez-bite-lets-move-past-the-shock-value-and-get-some-perspective-9563690.html]Luis[/url] Suarez bite: Let’s move past the shock value and get some perspective

Glenn Moore

Danny Mills would send him to jail, Alan Shearer would ban him worldwide for “as long as I could”, which under Fifa statutes is two years. What heinous crime could Luis Suarez have committed to prompt such a response from two players who were not exactly shrinking violets on the field?

He bit someone.

He did not fix a match, which strikes at the very heart of sport. He did not use performance-enhancing drugs, which is the most insidious form of cheating. He did not go over the top and break an opponent’s leg, or shatter an opponent’s nose or cheekbone with an elbow. He did not attack a referee (he has done that, head-butting an official, but that was 11 years ago when he was playing youth team football at 16 and he received a long ban).

In my mind these are all worse acts than biting an opponent, especially given it was in the heat of the moment, and he did not pursue the act long enough to draw blood.

What he did was disgusting and horrible, sets a terrible example and would be deeply unpleasant to be a victim of. But Giorgio Chiellini played on. If Suarez had broken his leg with a reckless, even premeditated tackle (it happens) he would have been out until Christmas.

Suarez needs psychiatric help, not a jail sentence. He deserves to be banned, ideally for the duration of the World Cup with a longer sentence suspended on condition he has professional treatment, but is his offence really deserving of a longer ban than a player who has threatened the livelihood of another? It is the shock value, and the recidivism, which has accounted for the publicity and outrage.

There is also, clearly, a cultural issue. In Italy, according to a SkyItalia reporter, they are more interested in assessing who is to blame for the Azzurri being out of the World Cup at the group stage (Mario Balotelli appears to be receiving more blame than Suarez). In Brazil the incident seems to be regarded as comedy rather than horror.

In England, however, Suarez is beyond the pale. Diving, biting, cheating: he fits our stereotype of the South American footballing bad guy, the latest in a long line stretching back past Diego Maradona to Antonio Rattin. There is also a place, it should be said, for lovable South Americans, such as Ossie Ardiles, Gus Poyet, and all things Brazilian.

And yet, if the behaviour of Uruguayan Suarez is so reprehensible, how is it Dylan Hartley is still being picked for England’s rugby union team? The hooker was banned for eight weeks for biting the finger of Ireland’s Steven Ferris in a Six Nations international in 2012 – and a finger is rather more vulnerable than a shoulder. Nor was it his first, or last, offence. In 2007 Hartley was banned for six months for eye gouging, which, considering the possible consequences, is far worse than nibbling on a shoulder. He was also banned for punching an opponent and for abusing a referee. Last week this serial offender started for England against New Zealand, his 56th cap. No one seemed to be outraged.[/article]
sorry, this article doesn't mix.

I consider myself quite a rational and balanced person. There are instances in football where "dirty play" and "malicious attempt" happens, and sadly under the rules of football it gets punished less.

Horror tackles and elbow although is equally dirty is still part of parcel of football, and when I mean part of parcel doesn't make it less of a disgusting offence, but most of the times (unless you're doing a keano) every horror tackle happens due to the very basic of footballing moves (tackling, jumping, running, colliding) and in a game of football shit happens.

But what Suarez did was more disgusting, because it was done with intent, contempt, and premeditated (unless he's a werewolf where he's working on instict). Just like in many aspect of life, let me give an example : A cop who misfired and hit civilians is less likely to face more punishment then when he deliberately hit a person unprovoked. The key word is deliberate.

and what's disgustingly disgusting is that people simply write them off as "meh, it's only a nibble".

And the fact that the scouse keeps on downplaying the scale of what Suarez did is also disgusting. How would they feel if the chief police in the hillborough tragedy simply comes out with this kind of statement : "It happens in daily policing" surely you'd all be baying for his blood? I don't mean to bring Hillsborough into this, but probably this will post a connecting illustration on how I feel about the whole thing. Not on the scale of the incident (it is just a bite at the end of the day and certainly nowhere near the incident of the later) but at the ignorance of some and simply shruging things off because it doesnt fit their agenda of defending Suarez.

And what's more, those defending Suarez are quick to blame the Italian, the England media, the FA, the FIFA, and all for what really happens. I would be very angry if I'm Italian, Suarez is the one who bite Chiellini, and the Italian were the one made to be "snitching and crying wolf". What a perspective that is.

"It's only a bite, so what. People got whacked elsewhere"

That line above is creepily disturbing, when the society dismiss a wrongdoing simply because it's not scary enough
 

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He's also a really really good lawyer.





feck me, what a shit attempt.

So whenever someone is guilty of a crime, they post a picture of themselves with a child they've taken somewhere before and suddenly he's a good man all over again.

Bloody hell, I've took pictures with orphans, that doesn't make me anything other than a "visiting an orphanage" once. I've given money to beggars countless times, doesn't mean that I'm an angel and can't do no wrong in the eyes of law.

Shit attempt that is. It would make sense if this is a racism row, but he bite a fellow footballer, this pics holds no relevance, other than trying to picture him as a better person than what he showed on TV
 

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And yet, if the behaviour of Uruguayan Suarez is so reprehensible, how is it Dylan Hartley is still being picked for England’s rugby union team? The hooker was banned for eight weeks for biting the finger of Ireland’s Steven Ferris in a Six Nations international in 2012 – and a finger is rather more vulnerable than a shoulder. Nor was it his first, or last, offence. In 2007 Hartley was banned for six months for eye gouging, which, considering the possible consequences, is far worse than nibbling on a shoulder. He was also banned for punching an opponent and for abusing a referee. Last week this serial offender started for England against New Zealand, his 56th cap. No one seemed to be outraged.[/article]
Biting (Bakkal, Ivanovic and Chiellini), eye gouging (Parker and Ivanovic), punching an opponent (Jara), abusing a referee (in Uruguay at 16). Suarez has done all those things this Hartley fella has done. Multiple times! Not to mention the smaller acts of cheating such as diving and playacting. On top of that he has been banned for racism as well.

Also, if that Hartly guy did all those things, I would argue he too should have gotten a long ban. He got 6 months for the eye gouging you say. How long did Suarez get? That's right... Suarez should get a long ban for this because you simply cannot see this as an isolated act. When someone commits a crime for a second/third time, courts will be more severe than the first time and rightly so. The message that this is unacceptable behaviour has still not come accross apparently. He's an adult for christ's sake, not an infant. Take some responsability for once just like every single one of us would have to if we did something unacceptable. Ban him, and then send him to a psychiatrist. If he then does it once more in the future, ban him for life because that would mean he's beyond help and a danger to any footballer on the pitch with him.