Of course. But I think Van Gaal's words were clear too. Although he obviously didn't mention any names Cleverley is one of the first ones the fans want to see leaving and he really didn't show anything encouraging so far, not even in pre-season, so it all makes sense, there are also other clubs rumoured to be interested. Only possibility of this not happening will be Cleverley running down his contract at United, because he wouldn't get that much money anywhere else, but I think he'll think about his career and decide that he's better off at another club. I think a part of him will be relieved too, although he loves United, he just didn't stand the pressure.
Tom Cleverley | 2014/15 Performances (on loan at Aston Villa)
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Correct decision to sell him, he is average in every way, technically very limited and mentally weak the only suprise is a team like villa are willing to pay so much for him. I have always thought he was at risk of going this window because of his contract situation and the fact he was the third choice midfielder in pre season. Good luck to him but I would not be shocked if he struggles to hold down a place at villa.
Breaking on SSN: Valencia make a bid for Tom Cleverley.
Are you winding us up?
Nah it's on the yellow news ticker at the bottom as well 
He should go to Spain, be great for him and for England.
Holy shit just looked, it's true. He'd get applauded in Spain.
Seeing as their was a petition to ban him from playing for England, an overseas move might suit him.
Hope he does well. He always looked like he could have potential, but it just never worked out at United. Definitely time for him to move on.
Hope he does well. He always looked like he could have potential, but it just never worked out at United. Definitely time for him to move on.
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needs a side with feckall pressure, to slowly rebuild his shattered confidence. his wifey will enjoy spain as well.
That could be a great move for him.
Valencia wanna buy all our supposed outcasts or what ?
Peter Lim, didn't he run United bars or something as well ? And Jorge Mendes and Gestitufe have some involvement there as well IIRC. Curious. @Ekeke ?
Could be a interesting move for him.
Peter Lim, didn't he run United bars or something as well ? And Jorge Mendes and Gestitufe have some involvement there as well IIRC. Curious. @Ekeke ?
Could be a interesting move for him.
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So he has offers from Hull, Aston villa and Valencia not a very easy decision is it. 
Everton are apparently interested as well.So he has offers from Hull, Aston villa and Valencia not a very easy decision is it.
Though not sure they can afford him now though or need him.
I actually think he will do well for Everton or Valenica in their possession oriented system and his confidence will increase due to it, but in a side like Hull and Villa he will decline even further, his confidence is already shot, and him going to defend and see very less of the ball, And defending and positioning isn't one of his strengths so obviously he will find it hard.
I think any kinda of scenery change will help Cleverley play better football.
My United supporting mate lives in Valencia. I texted him yesterday that Cleverley looks to be going to Villa to which he replied "good riddance". Can't wait to let him know about this development.
Valencia would be a great move...I wonder if Cleverly will be grave and move to Spain!
True that, i think that online petition was it, from England fans to not select him in the England world cup squad was pretty bad from him, must have been horrible for the guy.
Yeah it's one thing to not like the player, to not rate him at all but to be mean and cnutish like that is something else. I'll never understand people taking things way too personally.
If he goes to Valencia at least he's playing in a country that will appreciate his brand of football.
You just know he'll go to Villa instead of Valencia. British players like Tom need to venture out. A great club with European football wants him, he should take it.
He's good at keeping things ticking without having the cutting edge to make the final pass or score the goal... But I think that will suit the Spanish style somewhat. Would be a great move and great experience for him if he gets that move. At least there's a lot of interest, so he's definitely going to move this weekend.
Thought Villa was a done deal though!
Thought Villa was a done deal though!
All of the criticism from the media, fans of other clubs and even us has made him quite underrated. He possesses good ability and he is still only young. I genuinely hope he gets a good move and proves a lot of people wrong. I would love to see him at Valencia, the little guy would get a lot of protection from referees over there and the the extra time on the ball would allow him to play his football to much greater effect. He was better when he played with Scholes as Scholes would have 3 midfield players pressing him and Cleverley would have 20 yards of space.
What is his brand of football?
It's not like every single team in Spain plays a slow, possession based system where they bore teams into conceding. Valencia sure as hell don't.
Pass and move. Detractors will call it unambitious 5 yard side-ways or backwards passing, supporters will call it recycling possession and keeping things ticking.
Unless Everton come in for him, somewhere where he probably won't even start, Valencia would be a good move for him. Would like to see more English players abroad.
Valencia aren't a pass and move side and frankly I don't see Cleverley as that type of player.
Exactly.
I'm really not sure why so many people are claiming he'll 'suit the Spanish style'. What style? The national team style which is full of far superior players?
Most La Liga teams play nothing like that.
They're still in the top 25% of teams in La Liga in terms of keeping possession and passing accuracy...
I have no idea how they play, but I know many people who have the impression that every team in Spain plays that way.
Before you guys get overly sanctimonious on why Cleverly couldn't possibly be a fit for Valencia, my comments on "appreciating his brand of football" is more of a tongue in cheek comment based on what Tom said in a previous interview:
I imagine basically everyone in here who's said 'he'll suit the Spanish style' hasn't seen them play either.They are, but they're not a 'sideways passing team' like some are suggesting. They're creative. Cleverley isn't.
Yeah but what players do that as their only function. Clev doesn't specialize in a defensive capacity or an attacking capacity. I can't think of any players who will be particularly valued who's only contribution is the pure recycling of possession, it's a good trait to have but it can't be what your whole game is about. Particularly as in Clevs case a lot of the times he does this a better or at least a more confident player could keep the ball but keep the momentum as well.
For it to be "pass an move", Cleverley needs to actually move after making that pass. He doesn't. He resembles a pudding once passes it.
Anyway, Cleverley should bite Valencia's arm off for a move there. One of the most beautiful cities in Europe, a fantastic stadium (or 2) and regular European football prospects.
Arsenal and Everton are interested apparently too.
We could get £15m with all this interest.
We could get £15m with all this interest.
We should just offer Valencia all our outcasts for a combined, lower fee.
Have any of the Manchester based journos said anything on the Valencia bid or is it just SSN?
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