Is anyone else more annoyed at the Cisse's ban than the Evans one?
Evans/Cisse - Spitgate
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Sort of. Don't know why Cisse got banned for 1 more game than Evans got.
It was because he's already been banned this season.
Because he was banned in December for elbowing Evertons Coleman.
Oh I see, felt like I missed something in this.
Err not really my train of thought. He got the extra game because he had already been suspended this season.
I think Cisse could have had a more positive impact on our season than Evans.
The games Cisse misses include Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham.
That sucks. Now I feel annoyed about this, too.
Manchester United are on a collision course with the Football Association after the governing body refused to accept Jonny Evans’s denial that he spat at Newcastle United’s Papiss Cissé.
Apparently we are "ON A COLLISION COURSE" with the FA. Louise Taylor is really bad at writing/making sense.
Would much prefer to be racially abused than spat on. Hell, I'd laugh and join in of someone was taking the piss out if me for being an Aussie, but if someone spat on me I would rage.
Depends on the level of racism.
I really don't think I could take it seriously.
That's why it's silly is someone ask you that question, same with me, and I guess great majority of RedCafe.
Me too mate, but for white races racism isn't a serious problem because we are barely on the end of racism abuse and we don't have a history of hundreds of years being oppressed (which still continues on lower forms) by people of an another race. So, I guess there is a change on who is the victim of racial abuse.
Never saw Evans spitting or Cisse when I was watching the match live.
But a ban? thats fine, Evans should have got a 6 match ban for how scared he looked after flinging his leg and Cisse stepped up to him.
So all is set.
But a ban? thats fine, Evans should have got a 6 match ban for how scared he looked after flinging his leg and Cisse stepped up to him.
So all is set.
That article must be a WUM, a key component of our defence
.No it seems a lot on here would rather be spat on!
This is true some races will feel it more than others and may not be able to just laugh it off. I have still yet to meet anyone in reality though who would rather be spat on than abused verbally though.
I suppose you could just do a John Terry and do both.No it seems a lot on here would rather be spat on!
I'd rather be called the n word, than someone to spit at me. If someone used a racial slur against me, which has happened many a time, I would just call them back something else, but to have some one spit on me, Jesus, someone is gonna be knocked out in five minutes. I may be in the minority with this (no pun intended) but no way would I rather words over actual spit in my face, with that said, I'd rather both than someone breaking my leg.
I dont think you are, to me its basic common sense.
It depends dosen't it? I mean, out and about in the street, I would rather be called a racial slur. I've been fairly fortunate in life that I've never really been subjected to that much racism... there's been a few names here and there, some reverse racism too, but generally I just laugh it off as complete morons being complete morons. However, there was once - when I was like 13/14, I was down South with family in a quite nice (and, albeit very non-ethic place) - and some guy spat on my back. I didn't realise it at the time, but when it got pointed out to me - I pieced it together with some guy and girl who walked passed me and kept turning and laughing - and, long story short, that is an "attack" that made me feel worse then anything else I've experienced - so much so that I never talk about it when I'm involved in a conversation about racism - I generally just like to pretend it never happened.
BUT, the thing is - at a place of work, which is a safe environment, and where you're meant to be amongst peers - I would much, much rather be spat on then being subjected to racist abuse. Which might sound in complete contrast to the above paragraph - but, in my mind, if someone at work was racist to me, that would be singling me out as inferior/different, in an environment where I expect to be respected as equal... where as spitting at me would just be a generic (yet, incredibly gross attack) that they could do to anyone... and, after a while, I could possibly put down to a heat of the moment thing, as opposed to racism, which is indicative of a state of mind.
Just my two cents though.
Does literally everything get the -gate suffix nowadays?
Fantastic post, well said.
Everything except actual gates.
In Evans' defense (that he did it by accident) it's a bit of a random thing to do? He's never done it before in his career, it wasn't exactly that heated between them, he didn't really lose his temper. From the video it looks intentional but I'm not sure as it's so random to do at the time.
Piers Morgan needs to be fired off the planet.
The one interesting thing I noted was that Evans seemed to be saying/asking "spitting?" to Cisse after Cisse spat at him and the hustle continued.
Cisse's putting his finger in Evans' face, and Evans looks confused. Either asking why Cisse was spitting at him, or answering Cisse's accusation, as if to say "Spitting? When did I spit?"
He claims he had no idea he'd done anything wrong, and he looks confused in the clip... but maybe he's just a convincing actor...
Cisse's putting his finger in Evans' face, and Evans looks confused. Either asking why Cisse was spitting at him, or answering Cisse's accusation, as if to say "Spitting? When did I spit?"
He claims he had no idea he'd done anything wrong, and he looks confused in the clip... but maybe he's just a convincing actor...
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Given the length of the bans imposed on both players, it might be a good idea if managers banned their players from spitting at all during matches. If you don't spit, there's no ambiguity about where you were, or were not, "aiming".
Personally, I think spitting anywhere in public is disgusting. The same goes for the practice of holding one nostril shut and blowing snot out of the other.
Personally, I think spitting anywhere in public is disgusting. The same goes for the practice of holding one nostril shut and blowing snot out of the other.
Have you played sport? It's a natural reaction, 99% of the time, the players don't know they are doing it.
Yes.
I disagree that it's a natural reaction, it's a habit.
Even if it were a reflex action, that reaction has now led to us losing a player for six matches in an area of the team where we are thin enough on the ground already.
What else do you expect them to do with the build of of phlegm/mucus that accumulates as you play high intensity sport? Run to the sideline for a hanky?
Swallow it?
What do, say, Squash or Basketball players do? Never seen them spit. They are pretty high intensity sports.
It's easy being brave down a phone line, he wouldn't have dared say it in the studio with Maysie and Norman Whiteside there. Big man.
I'd disagree with that. The extent of spitting in the game is a relatively modern phenomena ie if it was so natural it would have always occured. A lot of the time it's completely unnecessary in my opinion.
Or in the direction of our Australian brethren. Has it tried plying his trade there yet?
An art perfected by our own Choccy McClair if I'm not mistaken.
No, its a habit, and a disgusting one at that. Can you imagine if basketball and indoor sports courts were covered in spit? They dont do it there because they could slip on it and its more visible. They need to swallow, not spit.