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Nah, it isn't just vote-winning, Goofy is far more flexible than Xavi. You can stick Goofy into virtually any team and formation and he will bring along his delta. Xavi? He actually didn't look all that in Pat's team.I don't have a problem with someone rating Xavi higher as a football player but purely in terms of winning votes in this draft, Dinho is at a different level.
That'd be Godin Balu . Boateng is fantastic though and one of the best CBs in the world. Does tend to be underrated and I honestly can't think of a better CB than him bar Godin in the past few years.Still so underrated . He was again absolutely fantastic in recent weeks. I'm thinking about making a thread for him and call him the best centerback in the world for about 2 years now, but I'm scared that I jinx his career . And he has his peak years still ahead of him, so I need to be careful.
Yes godin has performed best in Uruguay and madrid, both Uber organized teams.Godin is in my opinion a bit more limited, fantastic for that Atletico side, no doubt. But I rate both Thiago Silva and Boateng a bit higher. Probably not much in it though.
Fair enough Boateng is certainly the more complete and more expansive player on the ball but Godin is no slouch in this regard and is comfortable on the ball. Like you said there's not much between them but personally I'll have Godin over Boateng myself. Certainty not outrageous to claim otherwise though.Godin is in my opinion a bit more limited, fantastic for that Atletico side, no doubt. But I rate both Thiago Silva and Boateng a bit higher. Probably not much in it though.
Yup Boateng is the pacier CB and is capable of excelling in a high line. Godin on the other hand is the better no nonsense defender who's better versed in the dark arts of defending and is a rock at the back. Not that Boateng is bad at this regard but you get my point.Yes godin has performed best in Uruguay and madrid, both Uber organized teams.
YesMonday then? That should be my least busy day.
Silva is fantastic, but he lacks the impact on the biggest stage to back it up. A bit like Ibrahimovic. They can do a lot for their standing in the history books, if they win the CL with PSG though.I agree with isotope, I think Silva is overrated by many folks simply because there is dearth of top tier cbs right now.
I don't disagree with him being best of his generation but there is nothing to support the claim that he belongs with likes of Nesta.Silva is fantastic, but he lacks the impact on the biggest stage to back it up. A bit like Ibrahimovic. They can do a lot for their standing in the history books, if they win the CL with PSG though.
Pippa is gone. Has anyone else made that claim?I don't disagree with him being best of his generation but there is nothing to support the claim that he belongs with likes of Nesta.
AgreedSilva is fantastic, but he lacks the impact on the biggest stage to back it up. A bit like Ibrahimovic. They can do a lot for their standing in the history books, if they win the CL with PSG though.
Well Annah above is talking about him climbing GOAT tiers.Pippa is gone. Has anyone else made that claim?
Yeah it's crazy of course, but he is this draft's NestaSilva being compared with Nesta
Not saying this because we are playing but I would put vidic and terry above him.Yeah it's crazy of course, but he is this draft's Nesta
Vidic maybe, Terry also maybe but that differs between partners and tactics. One of Silva's strength is being abled to make a mediocore defense form together and mediocre partners look great, he's just a brilliant defensive leader . It will be needed against your attackNot saying this because we are playing but I would put vidic and terry above him.
It's another Godin (Vida) - Boateng (Silva) situation but on a different level of quality. All depends on the style and personal preferences. I will never put Terry ahead of him though, unless it's a Chelsea-themed team.Not saying this because we are playing but I would put vidic and terry above him.
Terry and Ibra are more comparable to me. Both look fantastic in a set up tailored to their strengths...but move them to a different style, or set of tactics, and they can really struggle to adapt.I can see why people see Silva's situation to be the same as Ibrahimovic but I'd argue that he actually has the hallmarks of a top top player but due to his own stupidity in relation to career choices has never featured for a top side whereas Ibrahimovic just isn't all that.. for me he is not a top bracket forward despite his immense talent.
Terry is proven though when playing in a system suited to him. Ibrahimovic constantly fails to deliver even outside of the barcelona move.. he is just a rich mans Berba at the highest level, not terribly effective in the toughest games. Plenty of better strikers in this draft than him yet he's the most talented out of all of them. His lack of top tier pace, sharpness and mental fragility hold him back.Terry and Ibra are more comparable to me. Both look fantastic in a set up tailored to their strengths...but move them to a different style, or set of tactics, and they can really struggle to adapt.
He was stupid, but also very unlucky - his career on the highest level should've started earlier, but tuberculosis (or what was that, I don't remember) really fecked him over. He almost died and considered terminating his career, obviously. He had to return to Brazil and play there for some time to restore his reputation and continue progressing after such massive break, I would imagine that it was hard for such a young player, both physically and mentally.I can see why people see Silva's situation to be the same as Ibrahimovic but I'd argue that he actually has the hallmarks of a top top player but due to his own stupidity in relation to career choices has never featured for a top side whereas Ibrahimovic just isn't all that.. for me he is not a top bracket forward despite his immense talent.
Agreed. Individually I'd have Terry and Vidic over him although I can understand why from a draft perspective, he's a dreamy pick - be it a deep or a high line, alongside a physical stopper or a cultured ball playing CB and squaring up against a battering ram of a target man or a speedy and nippy striker. He's ideal for just about every situation or set up and doesnt have any notable weakness. Kind of like an inferior Vierchowod imo.Not saying this because we are playing but I would put vidic and terry above him.
If Thiago Silva played in that great barca team, or alongside Vidic instead of Rio and instead of Sergio Ramos.. would he have won Cls and would he be the star defender in those sides?Agreed. Individually I'd have Terry and Vidic over him although I can understand why from a draft perspective, he's a dreamy pick - be it a deep or a high line, alongside a physical stopper or a cultured ball playing CB and squaring up against a battering ram of a target man or a speedy and nippy striker. He's ideal for just about every situation or set up and doesnt have any notable weakness. Kind of like an inferior Vierchowod imo.
However, like Balu stated he hasn't made the impact at the biggest stages, apart from a few albeit excellent and notable CL performances, to have a legitimate claim for greatness. He has the tools for it but certainly not enough and consistent exposure at the highest levels to back it up which isn't the case for Terry and Vidic imo.
He's obviously a fine CB, don't get me wrong, and I'd actually place him in and around the same tier as those 2 CBs as he's excellent and it really is hard to find flaws in him. However, to say he's better than them individually is a bit too much for me. I do think his real worth has been grossly exaggerated (maybe even by me) in this generation where there's an obvious and serious dearth of top notch CBs.
I honestly don't know but I'm sure he'd have done a better job than Ramos .If Thiago Silva played in that great barca team, or alongside Vidic instead of Rio and instead of Sergio Ramos.. would he have won Cls and would he be the star defender in those sides?
Just curious what is your opinion.
Like said damn difficult to critique Silva due to his abilities and skill, it all goes down to lack of success for the teams he's playing for. I don't think he should be labeled with Ibra, who I agree about by the way. Silva has performed in nearly every big game he's had the chance to do so in though.Silva is fantastic, but he lacks the impact on the biggest stage to back it up. A bit like Ibrahimovic. They can do a lot for their standing in the history books, if they win the CL with PSG though.
I wouldn't judge him based on a 3-4 match instead of a great career and a really solid world cup apart from itI honestly don't know but I'm sure he'd have done a better job than Ramos .
I'm inclined to give him the benefit of doubt but it's hard to say really, whether he'd manage to consistently look his normal, impressive invincible self at the testing and highest of levels (not an off color Serie A or a poor Ligue 1), playing alongside top defenders like Vidic/Terry or more frequently against top forwards. His displays at the WC hardly did him any favors though (he was absent for the 7-1 but did look out of sorts in the 3-0 loss)