[Mark_GrumpyLion]

I'd drag my testicles through 10 meters of broken glass for a draw at Anfield with our current away form. 1-1 draw with a late equalizer by someone unexpected. Jones or Rafael or something.

 

[Dumbstar]

See this is why people think it's a wum, myself included. Fellaini's been good but we clearly have some very good fotballers capable of producing good football.

I accept there are players that have some neat football: Mata, Carrick, Blind and sometimes Herrera. However, they're not brilliant this season and susceptible to being dominated by a pressing and passing side. Like Arsenal in the FA Cup.

They're specially susceptible to this away from home (Newcastle aside who no one can claim to be a good side this season). The only time I've watched them and gone oh shit is when the ball is 'delivered' to Fellaini. Other than that watching the 'neat passing' hasn't had my heart in my mouth in particular.

 

[Tyrion]

Are you not nervous of Sterling playing wingback and Fellaini just floating into that space every time we have the ball like he did against Spurs? Because frankly, that's as much of a no contest as you're claiming Sterling v Blind is.

Nonsense. With Andres Henderson in their side, we'll never have the ball.

 

[Shark]

Jaysus, the scousers are really out in force on this forum again aren't they?

 

[ivaldo]

Nonsense. With Andres Henderson in their side, we'll never have the ball.

 

[Tyrion]

Jaysus, the scousers are really out in force on this forum again aren't they?

Yet more nonsense. What you need to remember about Liverpool and United is that the last year and a half is the norm while the previous 25 years was a freak accident.

 

[Tyrion]

That's nothing. I'm pretty sure either Penna or Man Utd Ms came up with "the mighty Liverpolona"

 

[Señor]

Jaysus, the scousers are really out in force on this forum again aren't they?

It seems like there's more oppo fans on here than United fans, at times.

 

[Kraftwerker]

I accept there are players that have some neat football: Mata, Carrick, Blind and sometimes Herrera. However, they're not brilliant this season and susceptible to being dominated by a pressing and passing side. Like Arsenal in the FA Cup.

They're specially susceptible to this away from home (Newcastle aside who no one can claim to be a good side this season). The only time I've watched them and gone oh shit is when the ball is 'delivered' to Fellaini. Other than that watching the 'neat passing' hasn't had my heart in my mouth in particular.

Weird.

If I was a Liverpool fan, I would have definitely gone 'oh shit' when we played Rooney, Mata and Van Persie into clear shooting positions inside your box during the 3-0.

But then, I understand football.

 

[SalfordRed1960]

I'd drag my testicles through 10 meters of broken glass for a draw at Anfield with our current away form. 1-1 draw with a late equalizer by someone unexpected. Jones or Rafael or something.

Our away form suggests a draw. However, our change of the front line and the rise in tempo recently gives cause for optimism.

 

[Dumbstar]

Jaysus, the scousers are really out in force on this forum again aren't they?

Its a Utd vs Liverpool match thread, where the outcome actually matters seriously to both clubs. Not had that since 2008/2009 season.

 

[Dumbstar]

Weird.

If I was a Liverpool fan, I would have definitely gone 'oh shit' when we played Rooney, Mata and Van Persie into clear shooting positions inside your box during the 3-0.

But then, I understand football.

If you're going to talk about games that far back, how did you fare against MK Dons midfield?

 

[Kraftwerker]

If you're going to talk about games that far back, how did you fare against MK Dons midfield?

I just find it bizarre how the only time United have had you worried is when the ball is played into Fellaini, when we took you apart largely utilising balls on the deck. If you weren't thinking 'oh shit' watching that, you don't understand football.

You're clearly lying. No surprise there.

 

[Pexbo]

If you're going to talk about games that far back, how did you fare against MK Dons midfield?

You do realise we have sold 9/11 of that team and one of the only two remaining is 4th choice.

 

[PickledRed]

Weird.

If I was a Liverpool fan, I would have definitely gone 'oh shit' when we played Rooney, Mata and Van Persie into clear shooting positions inside your box during the 3-0.

But then, I understand football.

Few things on that:
- That game was the end of the 'bad start'
- Liverpool haven't lost since then in 90 minutes in any comp
- In that period Liverpool have beaten / drawn against better teams than United
- Since that defeat Liverpool have beaten teams that have beaten United in that same period
- No team has won more points in the league than Liverpool in at least the past ten games
- That game was at OT not Anfield - a quick glance at the history books would suggest that is very significant
- Liverpool also conceded 3 against Palace and West Ham around that period, it was habit-forming

These points are arguably important if you understand football.

 

[PickledRed]

Nonsense. With Andres Henderson in their side, we'll never have the ball.

Is this post sustaining the myth that Henderson isn't particularly good? Just asking.

 

[Kraftwerker]

Few things on that:
- That game was the end of the 'bad start'
- Liverpool haven't lost since then in 90 minutes in any comp
- In that period Liverpool have beaten / drawn against better teams than United
- Since that defeat Liverpool have beaten teams that have beaten United in that same period
- No team has won more points in the league than Liverpool in at least the past ten games
- That game was at OT not Anfield - a quick glance at the history books would suggest that is very significant
- Liverpool also conceded 3 against Palace and West Ham around that period, it was habit-forming

These points are arguably important if you understand football.

Good boy miss the point.

Were you even reading what Dumbstar said?

He said "The only time I've watched them and gone oh shit is when the ball is 'delivered' to Fellaini. Other than that watching the 'neat passing' hasn't had my heart in my mouth in particular."

I simply highlighted that this is likely to be extreme bullshit, seeing as he would've watched us in that game take you apart without using long balls to Fellaini.

So nice list, but none of it is relevant to the conversation at hand. Anyone would think you're all a bit tetchy, prematurely jumping on posts like that.

 

[PickledRed]

Yet more nonsense. What you need to remember about Liverpool and United is that the last year and a half is the norm while the previous 25 years was a freak accident.

Hmmm...there's probably something that's happened in the past 18 month that's even more significant than Liverpool's form. It's something that has had a profound affect on United which didn't exist in the previous 25 years. It's shaken the club to the core, seen one manager sacked already and the next guy looking a tad vulnerable.

 

[PickledRed]

Good boy miss the point.

Were you even reading what Dumbstar said?

He said "The only time I've watched them and gone oh shit is when the ball is 'delivered' to Fellaini. Other than that watching the 'neat passing' hasn't had my heart in my mouth in particular."

I simply highlighted that this is likely to be extreme bullshit, seeing as he would've watched us in that game take you apart without using long balls to Fellaini.

So nice list, but none of it is relevant to the conversation at hand. Anyone would think you're all a bit tetchy, prematurely jumping on posts like that.

Fair enough.

That said, they are points that deal pretty well with about 80% of the stuff being posted about Liverpool in here.

 

[Tyrion]

Is this post sustaining the myth that Henderson isn't particularly good? Just asking.

Nah, it's just a laugh. He's clearly quite good. Rather have Herrara though.

Seriously though, I do think Liverpool as a team are overrated. You're a big story, just like us. When you're good, you'll be hyped up; when you're struggling, it's a football apocalypse. It's the same with us. Maybe I just notice it more because years of reading the RAWK thread have made me almost seek out ridiculous Liverpool hype but I think Liverpool fans newfound confidence is based on a very short memory.

 

[Catt]

I just find it bizarre how the only time United have had you worried is when the ball is played into Fellaini, when we took you apart largely utilising balls on the deck. If you weren't thinking 'oh shit' watching that, you don't understand football.

You're clearly lying. No surprise there.

He's wumming and hiding behind "my opinion" God forbid giving United any credit for having some half decent players and praise us when we do play some good football. Don't know what it is but you never get fans from other teams acting like this before a match. Is it some sort of inferiority complex?

 

[Kraftwerker]

Fair enough.

That said, they are points that deal pretty well with about 80% of the stuff being posted about Liverpool in here.

Really?

Half the posters predicting a Liverpool win or a draw.

The rest optimistic after United put in one of the most accomplished performances of any side this season.

Liverpool by and large get a fair deal here. The persecution complex blinds you to it.

 

[Trizy]

Few things on that:
- That game was the end of the 'bad start'
- Liverpool haven't lost since then in 90 minutes in any comp
- In that period Liverpool have beaten / drawn against better teams than United
- Since that defeat Liverpool have beaten teams that have beaten United in that same period
- No team has won more points in the league than Liverpool in at least the past ten games
- That game was at OT not Anfield - a quick glance at the history books would suggest that is very significant
- Liverpool also conceded 3 against Palace and West Ham around that period, it was habit-forming

These points are arguably important if you understand football.

All that crap goes out the window when it comes down to United playing Liverpool, how many season have we dominated and won the league yet lost or drawn to Liverpool either home or away?

Form goes out the window.

 

[Big red123]

All that crap goes out the window when it comes down to United playing Liverpool, how many season have we dominated and won the league yet lost or drawn to Liverpool either home or away?

Form goes out the window.

Well it has been their cup final for the last 20 years, while we've had bigger fish to fry.

 

[Dumbstar]

He's wumming and hiding behind "my opinion" God forbid giving United any credit for having some half decent players and praise us when we do play some good football. Don't know what it is but you never get fans from other teams acting like this before a match. Is it some sort of inferiority complex?

Fair enough Katie I will stay away from this thread until after the game. Win or lose.

 

[Frank Grimes]

Wonder how many posts this thread will have come the end of the game Sunday. What's the record?

About the game- I can't see LVG sticking with the same line up as the Tottenham game and I wouldn't disagree with this. I think Mata will probably be changed for di Maria. LVG is more than capable of coming out on top tactically here and if the players do their stuff we will win.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

It's fear. They smell a defeat and are getting the excuses in early.

We tore them apart earlier in the season by exploiting gaps and playing through them.

This will be a different game but no reason why we don't take the same approach, fresh off the back looking close to our best against Spurs, and Liverpool looking shaky with a team playing around them.

We can quite feasibly win and dominate the game with possession football. If we also use long passes to Fellaini to exploit an additional weakness in their backline, so be it.

There's something wrong when opposition fans are fearing Marouane Fellaini more than any other of our players. No disrespect to Fellaini, who's been terrific of late, but there's absolutely no way he should be feared more than Rooney or Mata or di Maria etc.

It's either wumming or, as much as its hated, delusion.

 

[ManUnitedCanuck]

I'm getting so pumped for this match! Can't wait for Sunday. Am nervous, excited and confident all at the same time. This is why it's great to support a club so deeply. Will lift me up if we get a result but will crush me if we don't.

Excited after seeing how we played last weekend, but know that form truly does go out the window in this match.

Come on United!!!

 

[redevil2]

I'd drag my testicles through 10 meters of broken glass for a draw at Anfield with our current away form. 1-1 draw with a late equalizer by someone unexpected. Jones or Rafael or something.

Hahah... Are you also one of those who would take 4th position at start of season in a heart beat?!

I am the optimist and if LvG picked the right team who play like the Spurs' first half, we can easily come away with three points, as long as we play with confidence. But I know I might be in the minority here. Most on here are just glad if we draw. Really we need to be a bit more aggressive than that.

 

[YzWayne]

So the Liverpool fans here are so confident of beating us this Sunday. None of them seems to be concerned at all, or are they hiding their worries?

I just wonder if we really do win, what excuses will they come up with? Ref wearing a United crest on his shirt? Or the pitch isn't up to standard? I just hope they will still be here instead of excusing themselves from this forum.

 

[Red Devil BB]

I'd drag my testicles through 10 meters of broken glass for a draw at Anfield with our current away form. 1-1 draw with a late equalizer by someone unexpected. Jones or Rafael or something.

Away form last 12 games: W6 D5 L1.

 

[ricky-romeo]

fellaini could be the vital point for us here.

either he could totally destroy liverpool when the ball is in their box or he could make 4 stupid fouls inside 10 minutes and get booked, thus spending the next 80 minutes in danger of getting sent off.

 

[DOTA]

I'm not questioning the wisdom of them but I do hate the early kick offs against Liverpool. I struggle to care about things until 4pm, at weekends.

 

[Reddevilboy]

I will be watching this match from a pub/bar in Bangkok. Does anyone know of any United's bar in Sukhumvit with English expats?

 

[PickledRed]

Well it has been their cup final for the last 20 years, while we've had bigger fish to fry.

Yep, apart from the dozen or so actual cup finals Liverpool have played over past 20 years...

 

[Jippy]

I will be watching this match from a pub/bar in Bangkok. Does anyone know of any United's bar in Sukhumvit with English expats?

I watched the Spurs game in the Siam Square Novotel. Can confirm it was an atmosphere-free zone.

 

[Gee Male]

This thread reads like a car crash for the resident Liverpool fans. I'm not sure how they've managed tow come smug and almost sanctimonious on the back of one decent season where they ultimately bottled it and fecked up, but there you go.

This forum will be a no-go zone on Sunday, regardless of the result.

 

[Rafateria]

I hope we smash them on Sunday. United fans are terrible when their team has been in good form. So annoying and over confident.

I've amended that for you for the sake of reciprocation. Of course it is naive of anyone to think that you couldn't insert the name of any football team in there when they are playing well.

 

[Feed Me]

The Scouse cnuts are out in force. I could understand the smugness last season, but this time round, they're battling for fourth.

 

[Mali_Zeus]

Liverpool fans here have been smug and arrogant recently. They never learn, do they..

This forum is too liberal for opposition fans.