The Euro Draft - QF - Team EAP vs Raees

Judged on the Euro performances, who will win the match?


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antohan

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Thanks a lot the explanation Balu. As Raees said, he has never interacted with me and saw me online and just sent out a pm.

"we middle-earthers need to stick together, drop us a vote haha!"

I did not think much of it, i have never paid any attention to the game and i also just about glanced at the two teams, i saw Henry, Suarez and Beckenbauer and just voted for him. Don't think i even paid attention to the thread title of the game. So maybe that was the game plan and it worked.

I of course would like to take back my vote if possible (won't make much of a difference i guess).

Raees, apologies for causing trouble. May the best guy win.
Which Suarez, out of curiosity? The Uruguayan or the Spanish one?
 

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In case you are wondering, since MJJ now chooses to make completely unqualified throwaway accounts of PMs: that was all legit, it was more a case of the beauty at night not being Boniek but me posting on through the night keeping the thread bumped to get people in there. All while you were :boring:
I summarized! You dont expect me to remember all of that message do you? It happened a long time back. Plus, I didnt drop your name as look anto did it too, but to say that you talked to me and I stopped doing it. So wasnt really dragging your name through the mud but rather praising you, if that makes sense?
 

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By that was an open all time draft with the only restriction being two players per decade (by date of birth) so the player pool was huge.

Checkout Theon's team that thrashed the crap out of mine in the final. https://www.redcafe.net/threads/decades-draft-tournament-final.376954/



:lol: Ridiculous.
I remember the first reinforcement round started with @Theon and I said Ronaldo would last all the way back to him in his second pick. "Bollocks! Zero chance of that happening!". It did, most either had 70s packed or striker sorted.

Ronaldo at 16th in a reinforcement round, you can't get luckier than that :lol:

That's why I've always pictured him like this:



Passarella - Carlos? I bet anto said something :D

Edit - he didn't :eek:
The argument was exhausted by then. Pretty pointless too.
 

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Even worse, he actually proposed a team with them in it as the best possible in the draft :lol:
It was a decades draft so that exercise was more about getting as many top top players from each decade than the most balanced team. Nobody is getting past peak Rijkaard and Neeskens anyway. Except Masopust
 

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It was a decades draft so that exercise was more about getting as many top top players from each decade than the most balanced team. Nobody is getting past peak Rijkaard and Neeskens anyway. Except Masopust
You always were in love with Masopust, weren't you? I remember you voting against me in the World Cup quarterfinal game because of him.

The line-ups:

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That was one hell of a game actually. trippy's arrows :lol:. Aldo driving me nuts with his Maradona destroyed Baresi in a high line once in a league match, so Ronaldo will too. I think @Annahnomoss learned that Nilton and Djalma aren't related in that game as well.
 

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I summarized! You dont expect me to remember all of that message do you? It happened a long time back. Plus, I didnt drop your name as look anto did it too, but to say that you talked to me and I stopped doing it. So wasnt really dragging your name through the mud but rather praising you, if that makes sense?
In the first post, yes, and I know that was your intent. I actually thought about PMing @Raees about it last night but thought it was best to let it play out as he clearly was a bit rattled from the exhausting day.

In the second post you just chucked in there a statement which really should have been more qualified/accurate. No biggie, it just pissed me off a bit there as I considered asking for a ban a few times this year (have a lot of shit to get done!) and just wondered how wrong it would be to have statements like that and not being in a position to respond.
 

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Thanks a lot the explanation Balu. As Raees said, he has never interacted with me and saw me online and just sent out a pm.

"we middle-earthers need to stick together, drop us a vote haha!"
That's pretty low and nothing like a "please vote for whoever you think has the best team" message.

This thread perfectly encapsulates why I've gone off Caf drafts. Debate club style arguing with people willing to say anything to win, one manager seriously outnumbered in the thread and, finally, PMing people for votes to cap it all off! Are people really that desperate to win? Surprised to hear this happened in the past as well. Fair play to @Balu for brushing it off but he should have named and shamed right then.

Oh and for once you can't blame @antohan for this! I remember receiving a PM from him a long time ago and there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. It was during one of the drafts where games were literally getting only 4-5 votes and he was just trying to drum up some participation from previous managers. That's the spirit in which PM sending should be done (but it should just be a banned now and lead to instant disqualification to avoid confusion).
 

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You always were in love with Masopust, weren't you? I remember you voting against me in the World Cup quarterfinal game because of him.

The line-ups:

vs

That was one hell of a game actually. trippy's arrows :lol:. Aldo driving me nuts with his Maradona destroyed Baresi in a high line once in a league match, so Ronaldo will too. I think @Annahnomoss learned that Nilton and Djelma aren't related in that game as well.
:lol:

Yups, love Masopust. I think it was probably more a case of not liking that Kempes role TBH. That was a turn-off and one of the reasons I later went for the infamous "peaked too early", you really seemed to be moving sideways after an exciting start.
 

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In case you are wondering, since MJJ now chooses to make completely unqualified throwaway accounts of PMs: that was all legit, it was more a case of the beauty at night not being Boniek but me posting on through the night keeping the thread bumped to get people in there. All while you were :boring:
There's no implication there. It was more about how, almost like clockwork, every tight game I've been involved in and ended up losing, the irrecoverable deficit was opened up overnight.
 

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Yups, love Masopust. I think it was probably more a case of not liking that Kempes role TBH. That was a turn-off and one of the reasons I later went for the infamous "peaked too early", you really seemed to be moving sideways after an exciting start.
I replaced him with Neeskens and had the perfect team in the semifinals, when you came up with this 'peaked too early' nonsense. Don't blame it now on my quarterfinal line-up :lol:.
 

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TBH, I agree with @Balu's point that the best way around this is establishing who you PMd and recalculating as you clearly went for a select few.
No one really seems to care about how this actually ended. It's slightly weird. I'm good either way. Could just do penalties, because it was a draw when all the nonsense started after all (you could say it was 0-0 when the game started, which is basically the same in this case)
 

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There's no implication there. It was more about how, almost like clockwork, every tight game I've been involved in and ended up losing, the irrecoverable deficit was opened up overnight.
Yeah, I know, I thought the same last night: karma.
 

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No one really seems to care about how this actually ended. It's slightly weird. I'm good either way. Could just do penalties, because it was a draw when all the nonsense started after all (you could say it was 0-0 when the game started, which is basically the same in this case)
Yeah, that was very much my thought last night. It was a very tight game throughout anyway, and it was tied in the first half. Going for the recount option ignores that some of EAPs five votes may be switches (berbasloth) or people deciding their vote on the back of the scandalously abnormal voting patterns. You can't draw everyone back and ask what motivated them, etc. Penos, simple and fair.

And yes, that was a post-rationalisation on why I may have come up with that reason to vote. I do however have a recollection of reasoning it, or brainfarting it, whichever you prefer.
 

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And yes, that was a post-rationalisation on why I may have come up with that reason to vote. I do however have a recollection of reasoning it, or brainfarting it, whichever you prefer.
I never had a problem with you voting for Annah. I actually fully understood your reason, when you said you rewatched Pele's final 1970 performance and made your decision because he was fecking awesome.

Your whole 'peaked too early', 'don't want to see all those players get embarrassed in the final, because I like them so much' comment was hilarious though :lol:.
 

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I never had a problem with you voting for Annah. I actually fully understood your reason, when you said you rewatched Pele's final 1970 performance and made your decision because he was fecking awesome.

Your whole 'peaked too early', 'don't want to see all those players get embarrassed in the final, because I like them so much' comment was hilarious though :lol:.
Oh yeah, I remember now... I think I had recently watched "Pelé Eterno" as well. You didn't have a chance, basically.
 

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Yeah, that was very much my thought last night. It was a very tight game throughout anyway, and it was tied in the first half. Going for the recount option ignores that some of EAPs five votes may be switches (berbasloth) or people deciding their vote on the back of the scandalously abnormal voting patterns. You can't draw everyone back and ask what motivated them, etc. Penos, simple and fair.
Yeah, that seems fair to me.

@Raees @Gio @Edgar Allan Pillow @MJJ @coolredwine

This isn't over yet. We ignore all the nonsense and decide this fair and square through penalties. I hope you all agree that this is the best way out of this mess. Next time, behave !!!

@antohan wants to make up for his sins of the past and will be your penalty master. Please send him your 5 penalty takers, 5 directions where they shoot and the 5 directions for your goalkeeper. Let's get this done.
 

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Yeah, that seems fair to me.

@Raees @Gio @Edgar Allan Pillow @MJJ @coolredwine

This isn't over yet. We ignore all the nonsense and decide this fair and square through penalties. I hope you all agree that this is the best way out of this mess. Next time, behave !!!

@antohan wants to make up for his sins of the past and will be your penalty master. Please send him your 5 penalty takers, 5 directions where they shoot and the 5 directions for your goalkeeper. Let's get this done.
Be honest you boys just don't want this titanic encounter to end :lol:.
 

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Oh and there might be a chance that antohan just ignores my post and your PMs because he doesn't want to do the shoot-out. Maybe it's best if you send me your picks as well :nervous:.
 

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In the first post, yes, and I know that was your intent. I actually thought about PMing @Raees about it last night but thought it was best to let it play out as he clearly was a bit rattled from the exhausting day.

In the second post you just chucked in there a statement which really should have been more qualified/accurate. No biggie, it just pissed me off a bit there as I considered asking for a ban a few times this year (have a lot of shit to get done!) and just wondered how wrong it would be to have statements like that and not being in a position to respond.
Second post? The one that said I don't consider it as a dirty tactic per se, impersonal yadi yada? I was talking about myself, not you. That is when I employed it I didn't consider it as such and listed the reasons for it.
 

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@Balu can we bring Hassler off the bench for this? trying to fit in as many Germans as we can
 

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@Balu can we bring Hassler off the bench for this? trying to fit in as many Germans as we can
Yeah, good with me. Just a small suggestion. Don't. It's a Euro, we're not as good as Euros as we are at World Cups when it comes to penalties. And I once built a team full of Germans:



They lost in the penalty shootout without scoring a single one.
 

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Right Pirlo is coming off the bench and so is Hassler.. off goes Zebec after one off the biggest man marking jobs of his life and Amoro bids adieu
 

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Really? :lol:

Btw, how do the penalties work here?
Choose 5 players, tell me if they shoot left, right or center.
Choose 5 directions for your goalkeeper, again left right or center.

We compare the directions always from the player's point of view, so:

If the penalty taker shoots left and the goalkeeper jumps right, it's saved.
If the penalty taker shoots right and the goalkeeper jumps left, it's saved.
Both center and it's saved as well.

That's it.
 

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Guys, I'll leave in 25m. Can we get this done before that?
 

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Who is that shit-muncher you boys have got in goals anyway? I've never even heard of the clown. :smirk:

As for Beara :drool:

While we're talking keepers, check out the Bear's save here in an England v Rest of the World international. I think it's one of the greatest I've ever seen.

(2.36)
 

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I need a few minutes to prepare, back in 5 to start this.
 

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PM sending should be done (but it should just be a banned now and lead to instant disqualification to avoid confusion).
Spot on. Only tagging draft regulars/managers openly in the thread should be allowed.
 

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Are you boys wanting Gullit back out of Zebec's pocket so he can take a pen?