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Di Maria has only ever been 'crazy good' when used as a midfielder. He was Madrid's best player their when they won the CL and he was our best player their at the start of last season. The problem we have is that Van Gaal, very quickly, stopped using him in midfield and began playing him in a number of other position where he ranged from average to awful.

If the plan is to put him back in midfield next season then I am all for keeping him but if Van Gaal is going to persist with him in other roles then I think we would be silly to reject any large bid.
 

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If we got an offer exceeding what we paid, we'd be mad NOT to sell. The likelihood of anyone offering that, or including someone we'd genuinely want in a swap offer, is close to nil.

Our best bet is probably to keep him for at least a season and if he doesn't improve sell him for a loss. At 27, as a player who relies so heavily on pace, it's probably now or never in terms of how the management see his future at the club. Seems mental that I haven't even mentioned how ludicrously talented he is yet, but there we go.
 

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The issue is who to replace him with if we get an astronomical fee. Players of his ability who are established aren't easy to find. And we don't need the money.
It would need to be a swap deal (which is highly unlikely) for me to see sense - i.e. Goetze or someone else from Munich. Cash is not what we need - we need quality and despite his form last season, he has quality in abundance. Therefore, unless we are bringing in someone of equal ability, it makes no sense to let him go.
Exactly.

And I don't think we'll let him go for just cash either. We're haggling over De Gea with Madrid, and he only has a year left on his contract. No fecking way are we going to sell Di Maria for pure cash.
 

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One bad season in a new country and everybody just forgot how crazy good the guy is.
I suppose you could also say 'One good season in Spain and all of a sudden he is a world class player'

I am not actually doubting his talent, but on the wing for Real Madrid he was a good player, but would never have been classed as world class. As a few have said, as a winger, he isn't worth what we paid for him.
Through the middle he doesn't really suit our system very well. Quick player who had a great season playing counter attack football and Real, but struggling to play tika taka at United.

If we could get a good price for him, I'd sell him. One bad season doesn't really hurt his market value much, but if he struggles again next season, then we would be looking at a big loss for him
 

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Am I alone in seeing sense in selling Di Maria? Whenever a story links him with a move away people seem aghast but it seems reasonable enough to me.
While I think it would be mental to give up on AdM at this stage from United's persepctive (especially given some of his early season form) if he doesn't want to be here and is agitating for a move away then selling him is absolutely the right decision.
 

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I don't think coach like LVG would make decisions based on just one season with our weakness held elsewhere.
It should the media crap that thrown everywhere.
The problem with you and I, is that we know very little, LVG knows if he can do something with Di Maria or not, and he doesn't need more than a few months. I would say that coaches like Van gaal, Mourinho or Guardiola are typically the type of coaches who assess players quickly because they have a very clear game plan.
 

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If we did end-up selling a player like Di Maria after one season at a loss to a fecking sugar daddy club then we deserve all the shit that gets talked about our pathetic record at player negotiations.

Not that I think he is going, nor do I think he should be.
 

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I suppose you could also say 'One good season in Spain and all of a sudden he is a world class player'

I am not actually doubting his talent, but on the wing for Real Madrid he was a good player, but would never have been classed as world class. As a few have said, as a winger, he isn't worth what we paid for him.
Through the middle he doesn't really suit our system very well. Quick player who had a great season playing counter attack football and Real, but struggling to play tika taka at United.

If we could get a good price for him, I'd sell him. One bad season doesn't really hurt his market value much, but if he struggles again next season, then we would be looking at a big loss for him
On the wing he has been World Class for Argentina though.
 

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On the wing he has been World Class for Argentina though.
No he hasn't, 'World Class' should recognize some sort of consistency, Di Maria has always been a cracking winger capable of creating things from nothing but he has never been consistent and therefore never been 'world class'.

PS: World Class is a nasty expression.
 

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I am not against the sale of ADM, but PSG paid 50mio euros for Luiz, so we should really ask for more, at least 75-80mio, it's not like they are sensible when it comes to spending money.
 

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No he hasn't, 'World Class' should recognize some sort of consistency, Di Maria has always been a cracking winger capable of creating things from nothing but he has never been consistent and therefore never been 'world class'.

PS: World Class is a nasty expression.
Not too sure about that. He has been excellent pretty much every game for Argentina in the last 2 years. He was arguably the best player for them at the WC, One of the better ones in the recent Copa America and tears teams to shreds in quite a lot of friendlies they have played also.
 

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Not too sure about that. He has been excellent pretty much every game for Argentina in the last 2 years. He was arguably the best player for them at the WC, One of the better ones in the recent Copa America and tears teams to shreds in quite a lot of friendlies they have played also.
He was shit at the world cup, don't want to be rude but you clearly haven't seen a minute of him at the WC.
 

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He was shit at the world cup, don't want to be rude but you clearly haven't seen a minute of him at the WC.
Shit? Everyone has their opinions - but yours is obviously wrong. Argentina/Messi missed him when he got injured.
 

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Argentina at the WC was fascinating because pre-tournament everyone said they were weak defensively but could win it due to having the best attack with Messi, Di Maria, Aguero and Higuain. The reality was almost the exact opposite. Their attack never got going aside from a few Messi moments but they were defensively excellent. Mascherano was a monster.
 

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Shit? Everyone has their opinions - but yours is obviously wrong. Argentina/Messi missed him when he got injured.
He wasn't good, Mascherano, Garay, Messi and Sergio Romero were the best players.
 

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That better not be true, Bayern are struggling with their wingers..... so we would be significantly strengthening European rivals.
 

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If we get rid of Di Maria and Van Persie in one window, without any quality replacements coming in, i wonder what LVG and Woody have been smoking.
That's not gonna happen. People can't seriously think we just sell players without having a good idea of who is coming in.
 

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He was shit at the world cup, don't want to be rude but you clearly haven't seen a minute of him at the WC.
I watched every one of their games unfortunately, and every last one of them was boring. Didn't disguise the fact he was probably their best player. I dread to think what your standards must be then.
 

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The only way I'd sell di Maria is if we sign Bale. Why would Schweinsteiger be part of a deal though, doesn't make sense.
Schweinsteiger and Muller and we can talk.

Seriously though, it's probably a similar stand off to the De Gea/Ramos one.. 'You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours' scenario.
 

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He wasn't good, Mascherano, Garay, Messi and Sergio Romero were the best players.
I'd agree with you that he wasn't the best player - Mascherano was by far - but I defintely wouldnt call him shit - thought he played well and allowed Messi to play much better before he got injured.
 

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I watched every one of their games unfortunately, and every last one of them was boring. Didn't disguise the fact he was probably their best player. I dread to think what your standards must be then.
By Di Maria's standards it wasn't good.
 

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I'd agree with you that he wasn't the best player - Mascherano was by far - but I defintely wouldnt call him shit - thought he played well and allowed Messi to play much better before he got injured.
Yeah I will admit, shit is over the top but pretending that it was even close from his best or from a world class tournament is also over the top.
 

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If we sell Di Maria as well we will also be short of quality on the wings. If true and I really hope it isn't then we better have quality replacements lined up
 

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That di Maria/Schweinsteiger deal would seem like one step forwards, two steps back. Yeah okay, di Maria didn't have the best season last year, but unless he's stated privately he absolutely wants to go, he should be allowed to stay and show us what we all know he can do.
 

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Is this guy reliable? It just doesn't make sense to sell someone who is seemingly determined to stay and who we have spent so much on, especially if we get a past-it Schweinsteiger instead of a Goetze or Muller, in return.
 

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A great player but not my favorite .The price seems excessive , but it is inevitable that United will have that problem in the future. All clubs are aware of the new deal with Adidas and the financial power. In any case , I see it difficult , I think he is very identified with Bavaria and Bayern. The relationship with Pep should be very bad to consider an exit. I would try Gotze before, certainly cheaper and with the talent that the midfield is missing
We are definitely not missing a #10 in our team. If anything, we have too many of those.
 
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