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I am bad in German but even I can see that is not a proper German. It sounds like those German lectures when you just start learning it: Ich habe Kasebrote gegessen, I habe eine Kassette in eine Kassetterekorder aufgenommen. (My German isn't much better than that. :D)
That's much better German than what's written in that letter.
 

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So... the "german" stuff he posted "retranslated" into english is quite brilliant:

"Can we demand your service in these coming days is Marco Reus object of a transmission on Manchester United. In advanced talks the teams will connection to the business and our clients is happy with the employees talk about reference with Ed woodward and the head coach LvG.

We must to search at the award in the vicinity and also a FIFA registered lawyer, to help with legal aspects, we understand you in England currently are, "pleasae" [sic] call us to confirm.

Thanks"



Sounds like a man ITK to me. I love the tweet in which he claims posting this would "prove his status". Status as a gibbering git.
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I have yet to understand why people do this? Do they feel important if they get a few thousands followers in twitter or what?!
 

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:lol:

I have yet to understand why people do this? Do they feel important if they get a few thousands followers in twitter or what?!
You'd be surprised by what people are willing to do to go viral and/or get big on the internet, especially social media.
 

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I could see Reus staying at Dortmund for his whole career despite the big offers. Who knows though? Quality player.
 

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"Vincent Rodriguez" is a United fan who changed their twitter handle from TheTerraceNews. Some older tweets with his old handle tagged:


That's gas, yer man Miguel Delaney was positing on Twitter with absolute certainty about this tissue of lies. Just goes to show how many journalists spew completely made up nonsense they've been duped by on Twitter as though they've actually got real contacts at the various clubs involved. I wonder how they were conned pre-Twitter? Probably random emails from fake agents that are actually bored teenagers, trying to impress their mates.
 

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In fairness to Delaney, I don't think he was relying on the fake emails. Not that I think he is immune to writing very tenuous stuff and standing behind it as definite.
 

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In all honesty, the German in those mails is actually a lot worse than what you'd expect from Google Translate. I wonder how he even got that translation to German. It's extremely laughable.
 

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The funny part is in the description, he used Transfermarkt and said that he was a lawyer for "FAMILIENANGEHÖRIGEN" not realizing that it wasn't a company but only the "Family", meaning that the player is represented by a member of his family.
 

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The funny part is in the description, he used Transfermarkt and said that he was a lawyer for "FAMILIENANGEHÖRIGEN" not realizing that it wasn't a company but only the "Family", meaning that the player is represented by a member of his family.
In spanish as well. With a random "Familienangehörigen" popping up :lol:
 

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in all honesty, i dont believe it by re-reading it, seems a bunch of bull, the guy clearly is trying to be a "ITK" but failing miserably at it.
 

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You would have thought if Reus was available we would have signed him up months ago, the rumours make no sense.
 

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Two things I would expect to be true

1 We asked about Reus
2 We were told to feck off

That email is obviously bollocks though. Some people have way too much time on their hands.
 

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I could see Reus staying at Dortmund for his whole career despite the big offers. Who knows though? Quality player.
I'm skeptical but I suppose it is possible if Dortmund pay him the market rate for a star e.g. £300k pw.
 
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I'm skeptical but I suppose it is possible if Dortmund pay him the market rate for a star e.g. £300k pw.
I suppose they could afford to pay him that, but it would severely hurt their wage structure, as the standard would have been set much higher. How could they justify giving a slightly less talented player under half of what Reus makes?
 

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I suppose they could afford to pay him that, but it would severely hurt their wage structure, as the standard would have been set much higher. How could they justify giving a slightly less talented player under half of what Reus makes?
Yeah, agreed. There are a lot of clubs that could afford to pay a player or two like that but the effect is it raises the bar massively. If you compared Bayern and Dortmund's wage bills, the difference would be huge in every position.

However, if they don't eventually him the market rate it is extremely unlikely he won't leave one day. It just doesn't happen. It's a short career, you have to cash in.
 

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I suppose they could afford to pay him that, but it would severely hurt their wage structure, as the standard would have been set much higher. How could they justify giving a slightly less talented player under half of what Reus makes?
iirc, Dortmund are in the top 10 of the richest clubs.
 

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I don't doubt it, but I imagine the difference from top to bottom is pretty huge on that list.
If you look at Real Madrid wages there is little chance that they will pay him 300k, it will be more around 200k and Dortmund can afford that. Also German clubs are more generous with bonuses.

In fact only United, City and PSG are willing to pay that much without blinking, the rest will pay him between 150k-220k.
 
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If you look at Real Madrid wages there is little chance that they will pay him 300k, it will be more around 200k and Dortmund can afford that.
I'm sure they can, but can they afford to set the bar that high? Genuine question, as I'm not sure how much the rest of the squad makes.
 

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I'm skeptical but I suppose it is possible if Dortmund pay him the market rate for a star e.g. £300k pw.
I'm pretty sure no Bayern player is anywhere close that number. That's about 400k Euro a week, about 20m a year? If I'm not mistaken around 12m/year is what our top earners get at the moment.
 

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If we had to pay over the odds that's because we left it so late and were desperate for reinforcements. Maybe we still should have done it.
 

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I'm pretty sure no Bayern player is anywhere close that number. That's about 400k Euro a week, about 20m a year? If I'm not mistaken around 12m/year is what our top earners get at the moment.
By that you mean Götze? :lol: (SCNR)
 

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By that you mean Götze? :lol: (SCNR)
Which just means that all our stars earn even less and further strengthens the point that the market rate for a star is about half of those £300k/week ;). At least outside of England it is.
 

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I don't believe we went for him based on Januzaj going the other way. Surely if we were in for him that would have been our bargaining tool. I find it unlikely this would have went ahead with giving them what they want if we were interested in there player yet they were refusing to play ball.
 

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this is on twitter from an agent Vincent Rodriguez, apparently ex Mendez


which if true, is a howler by Utd
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Yup, seems legit.

E: just noticed he's been called out by our Germans, good job lads. People are seriously fecking mental to fabricate such shit.
 

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I'm sure they can, but can they afford to set the bar that high? Genuine question, as I'm not sure how much the rest of the squad makes.
I think they don't want to, because it's not even normal in the market and German teams give good bonuses.
 

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Which just means that all our stars earn even less and further strengthens the point that the market rate for a star is about half of those £300k/week ;). At least outside of England it is.
That's true. But aren't those contracts (Lahm, Ribery, Robben) a couple of years old by now? Don't think Bayern will be able to resist the inflation of wages completely.

In any case Bundesliga is a very long way off paying anything close to €20m a year.
 

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That's true. But aren't those contracts (Lahm, Ribery, Robben) a couple of years old by now? Don't think Bayern will be able to resist the inflation of wages completely.

In any case Bundesliga is a very long way off paying anything close to €20m a year.
Lahm, Müller and Robben extended last year if I'm not mistaken. Robben towards the end of the season and Lahm and Müller shortly before the World Cup. So the contracts are one year old and I doubt Lahm or Robben will ever get a bigger contract from us than the one they have now.
 

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He's one of the few players in todays market that is I believe.
When he is not injured, yes.
thing is, he never seemed a game changer for me. And not consistent enough to be that kind of price player. I think hes living off of a reputation he had when BVB were flying . I rate him highly but i really think he is just not as good as some suggest , or better i say not as consistently good
 

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That's gas, yer man Miguel Delaney was positing on Twitter with absolute certainty about this tissue of lies. Just goes to show how many journalists spew completely made up nonsense they've been duped by on Twitter as though they've actually got real contacts at the various clubs involved. I wonder how they were conned pre-Twitter? Probably random emails from fake agents that are actually bored teenagers, trying to impress their mates.
Ha.

When I clicked on this guy's profile I saw in the list of his 'followers you also follow' Miguel Delaney was there, and that was my first thought.
 

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thing is, he never seemed a game changer for me. And not consistent enough to be that kind of price player. I think hes living off of a reputation he had when BVB were flying . I rate him highly but i really think he is just not as good as some suggest , or better i say not as consistently good
He was already rated extremely high when he joined us on the base of his last season at Gladbach (voted Player of the season by the players and coaches that season). Outside his last season, which was plagued by injuries, he scored at least 35 times in three years in a row with his career high being 46 in his strongest season 2013/2014. Over this time frame he averaged a scorer/minute ratio of around 90 which means that he statistically scored every game.

In terms of being a game changer, he was that even when he was not our overall strongest performer and most profilic player. He was an expert of either assisting or scoring the 1:0, which was even more important under Klopp than usual, because it forced the opponents to give up their defensive posture and allowed us to play the reactional style, which suited us the most. He also carried our game in quite a lot of games over the years, with the most prominent example being the return leg vs. Real Madrid in 2013/2014, when he singlehandily nearly caused a sensation of turning a 0-3 loss in the first leg into the elimination of the later CL winner.

In todays market he is certainly worth that much, although I don´t see us letting him go for that before 2018 unless he pulls a De Bruyne and forces his way out.
 

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Lol Reus is very, very easily worth £60m ; especially in a current market where the likes of De Bruyne and Sterling are going for over £50m and feck knows however much we paid for Martial
 

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Which just means that all our stars earn even less and further strengthens the point that the market rate for a star is about half of those £300k/week ;). At least outside of England it is.
You mean outside of England, Barca/Real, and PSG.
 

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He was already rated extremely high when he joined us on the base of his last season at Gladbach (voted Player of the season by the players and coaches that season). Outside his last season, which was plagued by injuries, he scored at least 35 times in three years in a row with his career high being 46 in his strongest season 2013/2014. Over this time frame he averaged a scorer/minute ratio of around 90 which means that he statistically scored every game.

In terms of being a game changer, he was that even when he was not our overall strongest performer and most profilic player. He was an expert of either assisting or scoring the 1:0, which was even more important under Klopp than usual, because it forced the opponents to give up their defensive posture and allowed us to play the reactional style, which suited us the most. He also carried our game in quite a lot of games over the years, with the most prominent example being the return leg vs. Real Madrid in 2013/2014, when he singlehandily nearly caused a sensation of turning a 0-3 loss in the first leg into the elimination of the later CL winner.

In todays market he is certainly worth that much, although I don´t see us letting him go for that before 2018 unless he pulls a De Bruyne and forces his way out.
Are you including assists when you say scored? Reus has never gone over 23 in a season?
 
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