It's a very simple thing. If he thought playing in the Euros was at stake, would he risk it? That's more then rational. And people might feel uncomfortable etc - listen Mendes, De Gea etc...they brought this on themselves. IF we did a contract with a clause or agreement then that covers all bases don't it? Also, does De Gea really want to risk sitting out for the whole season? It don't matter how good he is. LVG is in control of the squad. Romero is an average goalkeeper but Swansea was a poor defensive performance by us to
De Gea Contract Situation
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
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Has anyone discussed the Windows 95 thing. What do we think of that? It's a good OS
Found this interesting article. It seems we have only bought ourselves time, he'll leave on a free to Madrid despite what has happened.
I've gone full-blown Muppet and answered 'yes' in the new poll. Pitiful.
Interesting, but I hope it isn't true. Especially the part about LvG wanting Cillessen...
Well well...............
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...n-the-wake-of-David-de-Gea-transfer-saga.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...n-the-wake-of-David-de-Gea-transfer-saga.html
I don't know why we keep being linked with Cillessen. He's not good enough. He's a competent goalie, nothing more. Someone like Navas is easily a level above as a shot stopper. Cillessen may be a better catcher but that's about it. I feel there are about half a dozen keepers in the Premier League that are easily better suited to English football than Cillessen.
If De Gea leaves next summer then we need to identify a top class replacement, and I have no doubt we will. The rumours about Cillessen remind me of the rumours about De Vriji.
And about 10 other dutch players.
Yeah that's why other clubs have had problems opening our documents
Yeah, agree. Especially in today's market - has there ever been a time where young promising goalkeepers have been easy to find? Feck me if we'd settle for Cillessen.
Mhm. Luckily, I'm sure Van Gaal will be weary of bringing in too many Dutch players, like he did at Barca.
So you think that in the 3 days since the De Gea debacle, rather than just upgrading a few PC's we've actually gone down the route of finding a technology partner, HCL, and have them upgrade our systems for us.
You do realise the partnership with HCL will have been months in planning and negotiations
There's no way United are still using Windows 95.
Someone should play this to David De Gea. Listening to this there can be little doubt that Madrid got cold feet because their fans backed Keylor, and Florentino feels they can get De Gea for free next summer.
No it wouldn't. How large and complex an IT infrastructure do you think Utd has? There are only 837 full time employees in total.So you think that in the 3 days since the De Gea debacle, rather than just upgrading a few PC's we've actually gone down the route of finding a technology partner, HCL, and have them upgrade our systems for us.
You do realise the partnership with HCL will have been months in planning and negotiations
What an idiot. This guy has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.
Based on the fahcts, it appears Real have shafted him. He, even if he is a bit dim, should realise this. So I have now turned fully optimistic and voted yes.
I would guess that given LvGs focus on possession a good ball distribution is the thing he wants most from his GK. How are Cillessen's passing skills?
Nobody is using Windows 95, that article is clearly some kind of piss take. Also, documents are not compatible with an operating system, they are compatible with the programs that create them.
PSV still haven't even realised due to it, that they've sold Memphis.Yeah that's why other clubs have had problems opening our documents
It is quite detailed, so I think parts of it are definitely true. The bit about pre-agreemment with Madrid is also consistent with what was being rumored earlier in the summer, so that bit is definitely true. I'm also pretty sure that we didn't like the fact that Madrid bid so late for De Gea, but that is where it gets murky for me. The article makes it sound as if the subsequent mess was somehow intentional on our part, which clearly isn't true. The part about how we supposedly delayed the Navas medical is clearly taken from the statement made by Madrid on the issue. I also don't think we would have insisted on Navas if we wanted the Dutch keeper.
I think the most likely scenario now is that De Gea refuses to sign a contract with us and goes on to accept that package from Madrid. The claims that De Gea is put off by what Madrid have done is IMO nonsense; Herrera signed for us a year after we played him around in 2013 so clearly footballers don't care about this sort of stuff.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...global-partnership-with-HCL-Technologies.aspx
We announced this yesterday, just 39 hours after the Spanish Transfer window shut.
"As the first step, HCL will create a state-of-the-art United Xperience Lab to be housed within the iconic Old Trafford stadium, which will make it the seventh such lab across the world. Within the lab, HCL and Manchester United will explore revolutionary ways in which the club uses technology to create a unified fan experience for supporters; and in the process set a new engagement benchmark in the world of sport."
If you actually believe that article and that United took these steps to upgrade their systems because of the De Gea scenario, there is no helping you. Upgrading a few PC's is one thing... signing a partnership with a leading technology firm and planning a technology suite is another altogether.
hahah as if everyone believes that a club our size, who tops the rich list, with the largest fanbase and record breaking lucrative sponsorship deals and a state of the art training complex/hospital etc, yet our pcs were Windows 98?
how would we have managed to sign any players in the last 5 years at least then if this were the case? clearly Madrid are talking scrotum
how would we have managed to sign any players in the last 5 years at least then if this were the case? clearly Madrid are talking scrotum
Most of french media think Utd screwed over Real Madrid big time when they had several months to buy the player.
Its not de Gea that we need to convince, its Eduerne, good luck with that.
It's fashionable to make us look like complete incompetent idiots right now, isn't it?hahah as if everyone believes that a club our size, who tops the rich list, with the largest fanbase and record breaking lucrative sponsorship deals and a state of the art training complex/hospital etc, yet our pcs were Windows 98?
how would we have managed to sign any players in the last 5v years at least then if this were the case? clearly Madrid are talking scrotum
So..we're bothered by the fact that the deal was botched, despite believing that we did nothing wrong, that we signed with an IT firm and finalised the deal in 2 days? One would think that even a journalist would not be so dim as to write an article on the basis of a joke....
sadly seems the case. Im not keen on Van Gaal or his direction, but no one is bigger than the club and its that entity that I want to protect. As if our own fans would rather believe Madrid's cock n bull story over the De Gea farce instead of us?!. Especially when every man, woman and child knows Madrid fecked up.
they are going to make a goalkeeper their highest paid player behind Ronaldo? doubt it
Nothing special. I wouldn't consider Cillessen a top class sweeper keeper. His decision making is good, he's a solid keeper, but we wouldn't be getting Manuel Neuer MK 2. You can't compare Cillessen to someone like De Gea. De Gea is on a totally different level.
I'm not saying Cillessen is a bad goalie. I'm just saying, as a top club, I think we should be aiming higher. Ok, its going to be tough to get another Big Pete or Van der Sar. Still, I don't think I'd judge Cillessen to be better than Hart, Courtois, Cech or Lloris. He's a seven out of 10 goalie and I think a club like United should be looking for a nine out of 10 goalie.
I am not sure what's worse. A journalist making up theory that a digital partner was signed within 2 days because club thought that De Gea fiasco was down to technology or that there are/will be people who will believe it. ffs it is just uploading of documents on a system and sending-receiving documents. How can one seriously think that it can be down to 'technology?'
Oh and btw, HCL partnership is focusing on using digital communication and technology better to reach out to global fan base.
No wonder people lap up any shit these dumb journalists write about transfers when there is such a lack of common sense among fans.
ffs it is just uploading of documents on a system and sending-receiving documents. How can one seriously think that it can be down to 'technology?'Oh and btw, HCL partnership is focusing on using digital communication and technology better to reach out to global fan base.
No wonder people lap up any shit these dumb journalists write about transfers when there is such a lack of common sense among fans.
A lot of things can happen. At least that lady is not his wife, yet.
Yeah I totally agree we should get a world class GK but like is so many other positions we currently seem to struggle to attract or even keep these kind of players for whatever reason. Lloris would probably be my favourite atm but we also know that dealing with Levy is going to be a nasty affair especially after we have payed so much for Martial he will demand an outlandish amount of money for Lloris.
Doesn't our package offer him a salary which will make him the highest paid after Rooney? Plus it is probably personal now for that cnut Perez. He is clearly bothered by what has happened; enough to schedule an apparence on some Spanish TV show.
They have been together now longer than some people stay married...She is the one person who he will consider most when making the decision.
we offered him way more money to stay as is, doesn't seem to be his motivation. its just Madrids policy they save all their money for the galacticos. a goalkeeper doesnt sell shirts for them. I would be very surprised, that's all
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"doomed to renew..." doomed....
Doomed?
Madrid's propaganda arm makes it sound as if is such a chore playing for United.
Madrid's propaganda arm makes it sound as if is such a chore playing for United.
Doomed? We're the world's most popular club you plonkers.
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