Pedro at Chelsea

[FromTheBench]

Another meh performance. Not the player we needed, imo. Or a massive improvement over our starters anyway.

He is one of those players who are as good as the team behind him too much. Good, but not as great as some were making out him to be in desperation.

 

[Jazz]

The arse-seeing on here when LVG and Woody didn't get him

 

[kps88]

Was always going to take time to settle into this league and playing for a struggling Chelsea side doesn't help. Still think there's a good chance he'll come good eventually and he doesn't look fazed by the physical side of things, which is always a good sign.

 

[Bwuk]

I still think he's a great player, but something is wrong at Chelsea. I can see Mourinho leaving in the next few months, which is bizarre considering they walked the league last year.

 

[HabeasC]

If you gave me the choice of Martial or Pedro then, it was a pretty easy decision. Think it is even easier now, just that the result has changed.

 

[kouroux]

That chance he got in the second half, what a terrible miss.

 

[worldinmotion66]

He'll come good. He's never played or lived outside of the Barcelona bubble, I'm sure he'll take six months to settle, it must be a complete culture shock. The demands on a player are far greater in this league, but he's got the attributes to be a success at Chelsea. I would have still liked him at United, if truth be told.

 

[Sigma]

The arse-seeing on here when LVG and Woody didn't get him

Same thing can be thread for the responses in this thread, it's been 7 games.

 

[Ringo 07]

Pedro would not have offered more than Mata...we dodged a bullet...Van Gaal has been outrageously accurate with transfer decisions...He's making Moyes look like a Steve Kean clone which might actually be a compliment to Moyes......Mourinho is the one who will lose faith in a new big money signing after 3 games if they don't perform...also he will never give youth a chance.....Van Gaal is a better manager every day of the week in terms of long term health of a club even if Mouinho wins more silver in the short term with heavy spending

 

[::sonny::]

The honey moon is over

 

[The Azzurri]

This pleases me

 

[Tyrion]

He was definitely overrated by some when we missed out on him but he's obviously a good player. He can't make Chelsea play on his own which is understandable.

The arse-seeing on here when LVG and Woody didn't get him

When we miss out on a player, they become great.
When we sign them, they become decent.

If we had signed him, he'd probably be called a 'Barcelona cast off'.
If we'd missed out on Schneiderlin, he'd be called a 'proven Premier League star'.

Criticising United is the fashion it seems and will be until we win the league again and shut people up.

 

[Krovv]

Criticising United is the fashion it seems and will be until we win the league again and shut people up.

Even then some of you will criticise the club for not winning the Champions League or League Cup or FA Cup. You need to win the quadruple and the European Super Cup and the Club World Cup for the moaners to stop moaning. Not to mention that you'd need to sign Messi and Ronaldo after winning the quadruple. And win the Third World War.

 

[suheilsworld]

He was definitely overrated by some when we missed out on him but he's obviously a good player. He can't make Chelsea play on his own which is understandable.



When we miss out on a player, they become great.
When we sign them, they become decent.

If we had signed him, he'd probably be called a 'Barcelona cast off'.
If we'd missed out on Schneiderlin, he'd be called a 'proven Premier League star'.

Criticising United is the fashion it seems and will be until we win the league again and shut people up.

This!

 

[NK86]

He is still a very good player to have. He is not a Hazard who will go on a mazy run and produce a moment of brilliance out of the blue but he will score important goals for Chelsea this season.

 

[Mindhunter]

He is a good player. Let's not be too swift with "We dodged a bullet there". Martial is a young 19 year old whereas Pedro has a lot of experience in winning the La Liga and the CL.

I would have definitely liked Pedro here. We would have needed his pace on the right wing. It would have come at the expense of some creativity though.

 

[lem8sh]

Didn't want him and from I've seen so far in a Chelsea shirt I couldn't be happier.

 

[drmuji]

How can he suddenly be shite, after we didn't get him. I remember, a lot of us were singing his praises and the "world class" statement was branded around and now we suddenly see him as a bullet dodged. I think it's sour grapes, to be honest.
I mean, it's been only 2 and a half months. The lad has lived all his life in a different environment and played in a different culture with very different "philosophy" (I am allowed to use the term here? ). Now coming to England, playing under a manager who always would would teach restrain and people always looking at you about how and what you are doing with no Messi around. It's difficult and different
Give the boy sometime and I am sure he will shine through. Although as united supporter, I don't want that

 

[Getsme]

It's been 7 games.

 

[krazyrobus]

How can he suddenly be shite, after we didn't get him. I remember, a lot of us were singing his praises and the "world class" statement was branded around and now we suddenly see him as a bullet dodged. I think it's sour grapes, to be honest.
I mean, it's been only 2 and a half months. The lad has lived all his life in a different environment and played in a different culture with very different "philosophy" (I am allowed to use the term here? ). Now coming to England, playing under a manager who always would would teach restrain and people always looking at you about how and what you are doing with no Messi around. It's difficult and different
Give the boy sometime and I am sure he will shine through. Although as united supporter, I don't want that

Agree 100%, there's a lot of Captain Hindsight here.

 

[Ramshock]

It's been 7 games.

Exactly, feck me lads he just left his beloved club that he didnt really want to leave and is settling in in a new country. Dont be surprised if he scores against us.

 

[ivaldo]

Exactly, feck me lads he just left his beloved club that he didnt really want to leave and is settling in in a new country. Dont be surprised if he scores against us.

Depay is getting the same treatment.

 

[Getsme]

Depay is getting the same treatment.

There was some fantastic posts about him in the match day thread

 

[buckooo1978]

Pedro will come good....like Hazard and like Aguero.....just a few bad games and settling in process for him

 

[MDFC Manager]

With Messi out for a couple of months, I wonder if he wishes he's stayed.

 

[ItsEssexRob]

As I said hes under huge scrutiny here following what happened in the summer, its obvious you cant wait to jump on him as I would in the reverse situation, fact is he had one very good debut game, and 1 good game since with 5 average games. Comparing him to the likes of Sanchez is nuts hes had a whole season.

 

[Samid]

"We've fecked this up" has become to "we've dodged a bullet". Say what you want about RAWK but the caf isn't far behind when it comes to knee-jerks.

 

[Fahad Jawaid]

I will be honest, i was very keen on him and i still stand by and feel we need him more, when you see Depay, whose a young player having a difficult time to adopt the league and when your first option of the bench in wing positions is young, he would have been very handy for us. I watch us and there are so many times players like Young, Valencia and Depay are in a decent position against the full back and their final ball lets them down.

We will be such a complete team to play against if we get a player like Reus/Griezmann/Robben on one wing and we will not have games like PSV or Newcastle where we knocked on the door and our finishing or final ball let us down time and time again. With Pedro he might not be as good as the above mentioned players but with Depay whose young he would have been the perfect player to come in do a job and let Depay develop, one thing you can't criticise Pedro is, he may not be a Hazard and go past three players but when he will be in good positions he will deliver quality, its what we lack and against packed defenses we struggle and need a Blind like pass or Martial conjuring up some magic to go ahead.

 

[Wade3]

I will be honest, i was very keen on him and i still stand by and feel we need him more, when you see Depay, whose a young player having a difficult time to adopt the league and when your first option of the bench in wing positions is young, he would have been very handy for us. I watch us and there are so many times players like Young, Valencia and Depay are in a decent position against the full back and their final ball lets them down.

We will be such a complete team to play against if we get a player like Reus/Griezmann/Robben on one wing and we will not have games like PSV or Newcastle where we knocked on the door and our finishing or final ball let us down time and time again. With Pedro he might not be as good as the above mentioned players but with Depay whose young he would have been the perfect player to come in do a job and let Depay develop, one thing you can't criticise Pedro is, he may not be a Hazard and go past three players but when he will be in good positions he will deliver quality, its what we lack and against packed defenses we struggle and need a Blind like pass or Martial conjuring up some magic to go ahead.

Ironically enough, Depay was brilliant in the PSV game.

 

[ItsEssexRob]

"We've fecked this up" has become to "we've dodged a bullet". Say what you want about RAWK but the caf isn't far behind when it comes to knee-jerks.

It was fecked up, theres no point trying to justify it by his performances with us, even if he turns out an entire season of shit performances because its entirely possible he may have played differently at a different club. As it happens he hasnt been terrible even when not influential and has provided two goals and two assists already.

 

[KM]

It was fecked up, theres no point trying to justify it by his performances with us, even if he turns out an entire season of shit performances because its entirely possible he may have played differently at a different club. As it happens he hasnt been terrible even when not influential and has provided two goals and two assists already.

There is a great possibility that we might not have signed Martial had we signed Pedro, so I'm not sure if that'll count as fecking this up. Pedro is a very good player but nearly all of the reds will prefer Martial in their team based on the current showing and the potential he possesses.

 

[Fahad Jawaid]

Ironically enough, Depay was brilliant in the PSV game.

And ironically enough you missed the whole point of the post, and just looked at Depay against PSV and jumped on the gun. My point was about final ball which includes finishing or assists which we lacked although we had fair bit of openings, i remember Young and Depay had two great chances along with Smalling to make it a two or even a three goal lead. What i meant was i feel Pedro is far more polished and established and would have complemented Depay more, because it would have allowed us to phase him into the side rather than be the creative spark, and for Young obviously he's a good squad player to have but he's hit and miss and Pedro would have been an improvement on him. Would you Disagree that Pedro with our Setup is more unlikely to have more assists or goals than Depay or Young?

 

[ItsEssexRob]

There is a great possibility that we might not have signed Martial had we signed Pedro, so I'm not sure if that'll count as fecking this up. Pedro is a very good player but nearly all of the reds will prefer Martial in their team based on the current showing and the potential he possesses.

Yeha but youre using this as methods to bash Pedro and justify it. Based on your recent spending theres nothing to suggest you wouldnt have got both, but the spin will be that it was either Pedro or Martial and that so far Martial has been better( true after a few games).

 

[Adisa]

I have a feeling he would look better in our possession based system.

 

[VanGaalEra]

Extremely happy with this, the shit we got over missing out on him and then signing Martial was ridiculous.

 

[Wade3]

And ironically enough you missed the whole point of the post, and just looked at Depay against PSV and jumped on the gun. My point was about final ball which includes finishing or assists which we lacked although we had fair bit of openings, i remember Young and Depay had two great chances along with Smalling to make it a two or even a three goal lead. What i meant was i feel Pedro is far more polished and established and would have complemented Depay more, because it would have allowed us to phase him into the side rather than be the creative spark, and for Young obviously he's a good squad player to have but he's hit and miss and Pedro would have been an improvement on him. Would you Disagree that Pedro with our Setup is more unlikely to have more assists or goals than Depay or Young?

Did I say anything against your post? How could I miss the point then? You shouldn't assume things so easily. I pointed out the irony that Depay finished well against PSV, nothing else.

 

[Šjor Bepo]

i would say not signing him was the best piece of business we made this summer but we signed Bastian

Thats what you get when you expect from Pedro to play like Hazard, he is an average player that fitted perfectly in Tiki Taka system. He would probably be good in Bayern and maybe Arsenal when they are at their best but other then that, he is fecked outside Barca/Spain. Dont think he would be in my first 11 at Chelsea, in big games Cesc is playing behind the striker, Willian should be first name on the team sheet and in lesser games where Cesc plays deeper im not sure i would start Pedro over Oscar. The Pedro thread this summer was a joke, if the Pedro name was censored i would thought we are talking about Ribery or Robben. I expect that he would still have good numbers anywhere he plays but....

 

[::sonny::]

He is a good player. Let's not be too swift with "We dodged a bullet there". Martial is a young 19 year old whereas Pedro has a lot of experience in winning the La Liga and the CL.

I would have definitely liked Pedro here. We would have needed his pace on the right wing. It would have come at the expense of some creativity though.

I would prefer Mane on the right, or even Pereira instead of Pedro.

 

[ItsEssexRob]

Extremely happy with this, the shit we got over missing out on him and then signing Martial was ridiculous.

The shit was deserved surrounding Pedro ( not Martial)

 

[Jagga7]

The hysteria when we didn't sign him by a lot of posters was ridiculous. He was apparently the catalyst we needed to challenge for the league and European honours.

Good player but massively overrated by a lot on here.