totally agree Sults. For the first time in my life I actually forget to watch games and am not bothered. It's never been like this for me but we are so boring right now. I've been a supporter through times when we were rubbish. Least we had the odd great game in between the dross. But this nonsense? Sucks the life out of it for me.
LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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Co-signed.
That's brilliant
Those who don't care about the traditions of the club and say there's no such thing as the United way should jump ship and support City. I care about the romance of the club and the wonderful attacking players we've had over the years as much as anything else. Compromising this for a trophy count is sad to me. It's all well and good to make a case for Mourinho, but don't tell me this club doesn't have a unique history of attacking football with young players. Mourinho would have to change his ways and play an expansive/domineering brand of football. If he came here and did his usual nullify-the-opposition-first nonsense, I'd want him straight back out the door.
Tell me. Have we been playing attacking football under van Gaal?
This just sounds like something Giggs cooked up. Bribe Mou and once they sack LvG he can step up since Mou will resign. Can't stand Giggs the future manager one bit.
nothing official obviously. matter of days sounds like.
The Arsenal way used to be dour, negative but successful football. Then it became attractive, successful football. Then it became attractive but futile, unsuccessful football. Identities in football are shaped by managers and all managers are different, so clubs are also transient.
You hire the best man for the job, if he changes the style of play but the club is successful you'll learn to suck it up.
The thing is that we are where we are; a sacking club because we have messed up the last two managerial appointments. What we need to is get the next one absolutely spot on and when you have the best man at the helm you won't have to sack wily nily because he will never take you into a position where you have to consider sacking him.
It has to be remembered that LvG was a default appointment because no one else was available who was close to what we needed at post Moyes United. The board would have been aware of his flaws but came to the conclusion that we needed his team buildinh expertise more. It's such a shame that he let absolute power get into his and proceeded to gut the squad leaving us with too few attacking options - he is paying for that now.
I'd sell Fellaini. Rooney has been a great player in the past. Mata is still good of played in the right position, BS is still new to new league. Depay is only a young kid. If Sir Alex was a Manager today and had under-performed for 3 years to the same extent he'd be sacked. Different times, and expectations.
Agreed, to me only Ancelotti was a safe decision, now that he isn't available Giggs becomes a credible option.
No official approach has been made. There still could have been informal talks.
Bring on the January window. Getting bored of this shit.
It'd be ideal to get the new manager in before the January window, so we can salvage our season. I'd be willing to make an exception for Pep.
In a very dull and predictable way, yes. The problem is not with a lack of endeavour, but more to do with the rigid structure of van Gaal's coaching; he's stifling the players and needs to stop. Either way, Van Gaal comprises 18 months of our club's history. Why do you think Mourinho would be the solution to our tumescent football? He's never taken a side that was underperforming and made them play expansive easy-on-the-eye football. I predict it will be the catenaccio for us.
I was.
Sorry. I just thought some would be interested in football.
talksport just mentioned its do with his Chelsea pay out not sorted yet
Regardless. Mourinho is not going to do that to LVG.
because we've played oh-so-exciting football under van gaal.
We've all been fooled from time to timeI thought Ogden was a proper journalist?
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Because he had huge wades of credit in the bank. LVG has nothing of the sort.
if it has got to that stage LVG will be fully aware he's taking his job
Do you also suffer from premature ejacu..... One month into his appointment you already desired an exit ? Sure he started the 5-3-2 formation going against all which United stands for, but who can really blame him after that electrifying pre season tour. We had the we will improve after three months period. Wasnt it better to judge after that period ? One month is not very long to prove a certain credential isnt it ? I will be straight honest, i expected a title run with LVG, so i (and ofcourse many others) are extremely disappointed about the current state of affairs. Im sure LVG did not expect this scenario, but the way he sets his team up with patient possession, you just invite the opponent to defend in numbers, hit you on the brake and exit the pitch with an bitter taste.
LvG will hold a pre-match press conference on Wednesday.
We never looked like dropping out of the top 3.
True. When they do, you get snarky remarks about how public statements supporting the manager are signs things are going wrong so the media just starts speculating more.
Can you explain that in a manner I would understand, please?
Jorge Mendes has denied that Mourinho has agreed to manage United.
Yeah of course it's mental and risky, but we have also now seen that experienced pros's who do not understand the DNA of the club and the expectaions of its fans for exciting football is also a huge risk and failed twice.Einstein said repeating the same thing again and again and expecting a differnt outcome is the definition of madness.
If we sack LVG (I hope we don't) I'd prefer Mourinho over Giggs Cos I like his swagger but I honetsly don't believe it's any more of a guarantee than appointing Giggs.
Yeah, so let's just bring in Mourinho, who has always been a poop-on-a-stick merchant. That will solve it.
I think the 3 years under-performing is a red herring here, Sir Alex had earned the right to be given the time to get back on track and the under-performing was only relative to how brilliant he had been. LVG has earned none of that and has mismanaged way too much to be given any more money or time.
I guess when we hire a proper one we will stick with him for years. LVG was the best choice at time, point is he proved not to be good enough.
Demanding that Ryan Giggs prove himself before getting the United job is not the same as not appreciating/respecting the club's traditions. There is nothing I'd want more than seeinh Giggs taking the job and winning things as our manager for the next three decades but the fact remains that he is unproven and that the club is precariously placed and a third disastrous managerial appointment could be the last nail on the coffin and we'd be confined to midtable mediocrity a la Liverpool.
Also people shouldn't peddle the lie that United when faced with the choice of a highly qualified manager and a legendary player we have always chosen the underdog. Apart from Wilf McGuinness and dear old David we have always gone for the one with the track record. This is why we plucked Alex Ferguson from Scotland and didn't go for the romantic option like George Best then. Making stupid and suicidal decisions is not a part of our tradition.
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