If we win 5-0 maybe you can resign from the siteI do, as long as it'll get LVG out.
If we lose 5-0, maybe he'll resign by himself .
Didn't LVG indicate that he had been phoned by the board and reassured. It doesn't have to be public. Just because it was a message some fans did not want to hear, doesn't mean we have to hear it from the horses mouth.This is hardly your average situation, this is really is a situation that they needed to come out and quash all these rumours.
It's been put in our heads on a gradually increasing scale that the next game could well be his last if we lose, it's hardly healthy for fans who want rid of him, and let's face it most now do, they are feeding a mentality of wanting your own club to lose just so we can get it over and done with and move on, and they have now done exactly the same thing for the Chelsea game.
I'm not saying it's right, and I'm not say I want us to lose, but I can fully understand where those do are coming from. The club needed to publicly back him if they truly are trying to get him to stay, but they haven't.
Think you will find most fans will want to beat Leicester and hope Liverpool slip up a win-win.What a load of nonsense.
Imagine this scenario. Going into the last game of the season our fate is sealed but Leicester, say, and Liverpool are neck and neck for the title but Leicester have a better goal difference and a win on the last day will guarantee them the title ahead of Liverpool. Leicesters opponents for that game ? Manchester United.
You're telling me you'd want us to beat Leicester and hand the title to Liverpool ? I think that would at least split the United fan base so to say that you are not a true fan if you ever wish a United loss is, as I say, nonsense.
So you acknowledge it's a stupid question.Well that's a stupid exaggeration. Care to elaborate?
1999. Seems like a lifetime ago...Spurs fans were asked a similar question when we met them at OT and United would win the title if they beat Spurs.
I acknowledge you find it stupid, but I personally don't, otherwise I wouldn't have asked it.So you acknowledge it's a stupid question.
You're asking fans of a club whether they would pick getting top 4 or missing out on top 4. I wonder what they'd want.
This post sums it up quite well:I acknowledge you find it stupid, but I personally don't, otherwise I wouldn't have asked it.
So people would prefer us to finish top 4, of course. I think this is more likely with more Mourinho than with van Gaal. But the same people that want him sacked/gone are criticizing those who would take a loss in order for a new manager to come in. Seeing them as 'not real fans', even though in the two scenarios I proposed, we probably will finish higher up with Mourinho at the helm than van Gaal. If these people will accept a loss in order to take what's best for the club, I don't think that makes them any less of a fan than those wanting a win.
For the record, I'll be cheering us on later today
As said above, you'd basically be cheering another team on to beat your own team. No guarantees whether 1) LVG will be fired 2) Mourinho will be hired 3) Interim-manager Giggs will be hired instead 4) We'll make top 4 after falling further behind Spurs/Leicester. All you're left with is a loss that you (not you) seemingly loved happening, and no surety of what happens beyond.God no, we're in a bad enough position as it is. Why would you ever want United to lose? This isn't even a case of "I'm a better supporter than you", it's just nonsensical. Say we lose and LVG walks, are we even sure we'd go for Jose? Would he even come here? What if Giggs is put in charge? Would we even be able to recover after 4 league losses in a row? There are far too many variables to even begin to want us to lose this game, putting aside the frankly obvious madness of wanting the team you support to do badly. It's a complete non-starter.
Saying you don't want your team to lose is the measure of being a top re.d these days?People on here love threads like these. It gives them chance to prove what top re.ds they are. ''feck no I don't want united to lose, I'd rather chop my bollocks off than have United lose...OP is just the worst ever''...etc, etc.
Bollocks. If it means a change of manager then I could quite happily see us lose today. Short-term loss for long-term gain. United winning today just gives the numpty in charge more time to make a mess of things.
Of course I'd still be happy if we score/win, that's just instinctive, but anybody with a brain can see why people might not hate the idea of us losing.
Indeed.Saying you don't want your team to lose is the measure of being a top re.d these days?
Times have changed.
It's more the absolute condemnation of anybody who might think that us losing wouldn't be the worse thing that could happen.Saying you don't want your team to lose is the measure of being a top re.d these days?
Times have changed.
That's good of you mate, thanks for your support!People on here love threads like these. It gives them chance to prove what top re.ds they are. ''feck no I don't want united to lose, I'd rather chop my bollocks off than have United lose...OP is just the worst ever''...etc, etc.
Bollocks. If it means a change of manager then I could quite happily see us lose today. Short-term loss for long-term gain. United winning today just gives the numpty in charge more time to make a mess of things.
Of course I'd still be happy if we score/win, that's just instinctive, but anybody with a brain can see why people might not hate the idea of us losing.
Wait, Utd fans, on a Utd board, directing ire at people who want the club to equal our worst run in nearly 80 years, while simultaneously making reaching Europe more difficult and also helping one of our biggest rivals in the last ten years recover from a slump of epic proportions?It's more the absolute condemnation of anybody who might think that us losing wouldn't be the worse thing that could happen.
How has the club backed fans into a corner? What have they leaked which I've apparently missed?It's a nice notion but many people will want this, and it's the clubs fault for backing them into a corner with the stuff they're leaking to the press, they're almost encouraging this thought process amongst fans.
All for this.Whoever says yes should be banned.
It really is, the amount of "fans" who happily turn their backs on the club when they don't get their way is scary. There's already a number of fans who have said they'll find it hard to follow United if Mourinho get's the job is another example.God these threads are pathetic.
Pep seems to be going to City, Larry White has no reason to leave PSG for United and Simeone is actually even more defensive than Mourinho, and his team plays more thugish and cnutish than a Mourinho-lead team ever did. In addition, it looks that he isn't available.Pep, Simeone, Larry White etc. There more managers out there than just the main ones being touted.
Not me. I'd dress up in the Leicester kit and sing all their songs and celebrate our loss and another missed attempt for Liverpool with glee. I was happy enough to lose to City in 13/14 as well. Basically, feck Liverpool.Think you will find most fans will want to beat Leicester and hope Liverpool slip up a win-win.
Spurs fans were asked a similar question when we met them at OT and United would win the title if they beat Spurs. Most Spurs fans wanted to win and hoped Arsenal would screw up themselves, which if I remember right they did.
It's not about all that. It's about wanting van Gaal as far away from the club as possible and as quickly as possible. The quickest way to achieve that is for us to lose. Three points today will almost certainly buy him more time but if we lose then I think he'll be gone. You might think the board wouldn't be that fickle, but I genuinely think they would.Wait, Utd fans, on a Utd board, directing ire at people who want the club to equal our worst run in nearly 80 years, while simultaneously making reaching Europe more difficult and also helping one of our biggest rivals in the last ten years recover from a slump of epic proportions?
Yeah I'm still not sure I'd accuse them of having a superior attitude.
Fast forward to May and imagine us missing out on Europe by a point or two and ask yourself what impact that might have, for the club and for whoever will invariably replace LvG.
And we took the piss out of Stoke and Sunderland fans. Beggars belief. And YES feck Liverpool, but celebrating a loss of your own team is not really what supporting is all about.Not me. I'd dress up in the Leicester kit and sing all their songs and celebrate our loss and another missed attempt for Liverpool with glee. I was happy enough to lose to City in 13/14 as well. Basically, feck Liverpool.