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Just our luck isn't it? Sorry for Antonio, he was doing well...
Is McNair fit?
Valencia is naturally quite fit even if he isn't quite the same beast he was pre-pre-injury, so I'm sure he'll recover well. We should be looking to move him on at the end of the season anyway since he's 30 and not getting any better. Bitter blow at a time when he was actually showing some his strengths.
This injury thing is a total myth. He suffered the injury against Rangers in the start of the 10/11 season, returned for the run-in and was one of our best players, even starting the CL final against Barca. He then had the best season of his entire career in 11/12 (the season after), where he won player of the year. He was a better player post-injury.
I meant before-before this injury, sorry. Agree though.
Now that Tony V is out for 5 months, do we have any natural RBs fit in the squad except Darmian? How about McNair and Varela, are they fit?
Ah I see, perhaps I misunderstood - I was referring to the leg break. Agreed, though - Valencia is extremely fit and is supposedly one of our most professional players (if not, the most). I imagine he'll be taking care of himself very well. I just hope that we don't try to play him before he is ready (see Rooney vs Bayern in 09/10 or at Euro 2004) and potentially ruin his chances of rediscovering good form.
There are a lot of critics of him on here, but he provides extreme athleticism, discipline and skill no matter where he plays, even if he obviously isn't a natural defender. He's very dependable and is willing to play anywhere - these squad players are more important than most realise. I think people will appreciate him more now that he is out, unless Darmian does very well for the entirety of the rest of the season.
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I just wrote this in another thread, but I actually think we're missing Valencia. He's obviously flawed, but the thrust he provides down the wing seems to liberate Mata, and that great run we had in the spring involved some pretty triangles between Valencia, Mata and Herrera. I don't think he's the long-term solution by any means, but a wonderful squad player to have (and a great professional as well.)
Thought he was showing some good form too, against CSKA he stepped it up and created that assist for Martial which he headed.
Looks like we may have to go hunting for another right back that can ideally compete with Darmian.
Looks like we may have to go hunting for another right back that can ideally compete with Darmian.
Absolutely no doubt. He is a huge miss at RB which says more about our situation at RB more than anything else! But either way he was playing well until he was injured
What actually happened to him?. I mean he continued walking on the injury until he got subbed, 3 months is a pretty big lay off for a bone related foot injury?.
We miss him. His runs creates space for others.
we miss everyone until the moment the certain player starts playing and then when nothing changes we find another savior. The fact is, we are playing awful football no matter who is on the pitch. Rooney can be in the stands, Herrera and Schneiderlin can be in midfield, Mata on 10 and we would still play the same boring, utter shit football we play for the last 3 years....
Brings a tear in my eye when you see a footballer just running at pure pace with the ball in a straight line through defences.
It can be even better than a mazy Messi dribble.
Yess I said it.
Valencia we neeed you!!!
It can be even better than a mazy Messi dribble.
Yess I said it.
Valencia we neeed you!!!
Wow One Direction on full speed...
Honestly I'm missing Valencia at RB wish he could hurry up and get back to training.
Ah, the increase in footballing abilities of players when they are missing through injury.
I'm sure we miss him assisting in every game and scoring in every two.
I'm sure we miss him assisting in every game and scoring in every two.
Because that's what our other full backs do?
Hehehe. I was about to make exactly this comment.
If Valencia were to get injured for 2 years, he'd end up as the Ballon D'or winner!
Guys, this is Valencia - the player most MUFC fans wanted sold because he sucks. Badly.
Check his average rating of 5.5...that sums him up.
Seriously, fellow tards, Valencia has completely lost it as a winger but he's been decent cover for us at RB. Not without fault -- the backpass against Arsenal last season comes to mind -- but decent enough as a substitute.
And if we're going to give Darmian and Varela a fair evaluation against Valencia, Antonio comes out looking alright compared to those two. Of those three, I like Varela the most as an attacking right back and Valencia the most as a pure defender. But Darmian showed some class up and back in his first two months; I have no idea why it's gone tits up for him recently.
As for the most long-term upside between Darmian and Varela, I give the edge to Varela.
And if we're going to give Darmian and Varela a fair evaluation against Valencia, Antonio comes out looking alright compared to those two. Of those three, I like Varela the most as an attacking right back and Valencia the most as a pure defender. But Darmian showed some class up and back in his first two months; I have no idea why it's gone tits up for him recently.
As for the most long-term upside between Darmian and Varela, I give the edge to Varela.
- folks that 'miss' him - utterly average player.its crazy what a shadow of a winger he is now compared to that clip. Direct, confident, dangerous
This rating is from the highly biased caf... Don't trust it.
Great guy though. I miss the first couple of years version of Valencia. He was best friend with Rooney's header. It felt as if 50% of our assists that season came from Valencia Still, hasn't been the same since that injury vs Rangers unfortunately. It's really sad.
Unfortunately not good enough to be a squad player for us anymore, but I still massively respect everything he's done for us. I love how when we score, he gives a quick pat on the back and then runs back to the half way line
Still, hasn't been the same since that injury vs Rangers unfortunately. It's really sad.Unfortunately not good enough to be a squad player for us anymore, but I still massively respect everything he's done for us. I love how when we score, he gives a quick pat on the back and then runs back to the half way line
He's a better right back than Darmian.
Agree with the first part but disagree with the second part. Of course we always need to look to improve all areas of the squad but we have seen this year how important he can be when Darmian is having a tough time. As frustrating as he can be, he is a great option to have in the squad. Can play multiple roles, never complains, always puts 100% in etc.Great guy though. I miss the first couple of years version of Valencia. He was best friend with Rooney's header. It felt as if 50% of our assists that season came from Valencia
Unfortunately not good enough to be a squad player for us anymore, but I still massively respect everything he's done for us. I love how when we score, he gives a quick pat on the back and then runs back to the half way line
Are you joking? Valencia was playing really well this season until he was injured. Stepped in for Darmian once his formed dropped and produced immaculate defensive performances.
It's a weird sensation with injured players. No doubt he'll be getting slated once he returns. He could actually be kind of useful at right-back for us, but yeah, strange that people really seem to miss him.
I don't know about others but it's half I genuinely miss him in the team (or as an option) because his qualities are obvious (freeing Mata, being an offensive/opening up spaces for others all by himself, being defensively okay) and half kidding because the situation (shite football, lack of pace, aggression, tenacity, winning mentality etc) is so ridiculous than we actually need his qualities.
feck me he reminds me of Lucas moura in the first video
I agree this does happen sometimes but I've always backed Valencia as a good right back. He's much better than most of the Caf believe.
Wrong, his POTY season came after that injury.Great guy though. I miss the first couple of years version of Valencia. He was best friend with Rooney's header. It felt as if 50% of our assists that season came from Valencia
Unfortunately not good enough to be a squad player for us anymore, but I still massively respect everything he's done for us. I love how when we score, he gives a quick pat on the back and then runs back to the half way line
My God talk about rose tinted glasses, he doesn't even do 25% of that effectively when he's fit and in the team.
Let's hope he returns a better player like he did after his last injury.
He's a physical monster but he doesn't have a clue tactically, he spent more time out of position than in it. Bizarre the amount of excuses made for him.
He's a physical monster but he doesn't have a clue tactically, he spent more time out of position than in it. Bizarre the amount of excuses made for him.
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