De Gea better shot stopper and reflexes.
Big Pete better all round game and command of the area.
Big Pete better all round game and command of the area.
I'm calling it: DDG is the best we've ever had
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Don't get me wrong. Saying there weren't many good keepers isn't the same as saying there weren't any class keepers. And funnliy enough those guys and Preudhomme are only the ones I remember that rivaled Schmeichel. Still, I never thought "Hey, we got Schemichel, we'll be alright." and I think I even appreciated VDS even more than Schmeichel.
I wish DDG had a proper solid defence in front of him. He deserves it. Poor guys back must be hurt from carrying the rest of the team so much.
Between Van Der Sar, Schmeichel and De Gea it's hard to pick out who is/was the best keeper for us. They all had their own qualities and all world class. Luckily we've had the pleasure of having 3 of the best keepers ever to play for us.
One of the best shot stoppers I have ever seen.
Still would say that Big Pete was better as he was more commanding in the box; a real leader.
Still would say that Big Pete was better as he was more commanding in the box; a real leader.
Dave is a lot more busy
Although it's not his fault, i.e there should be more obvious options/tactics devised by a good manager etc but I do rather dislike his attempts at launching a quick attack with a long kick. He's cold as ice but you can tell after he makes another worldie save or 50 in a match, he's get a bit over excited and starts launching long balls. We need a bit of calm there and must trust in playing it from the back/get momentum rather than hoping for a lucky bounce inevitably concede possesion.
He has the reflexes of a cat on speed!
Considering he has training every single day of the week, including match days where he's subject to intense shot blocking practice for 90 minutes, i'm not surprised.
Not doubting his amazingness, but I feel like him being a shinning beacon in a sea of shit, has kind of made his performances be looked at as better than they really are.
Second to the Great Dane for me, but on par with Van der Sar at least. The presence, organization(albeit he had much better defenders to organise), distribution(especially those long throw counters) and simply the fact that he's the only keeper I ever remember being consistently confident would win one on one with a striker(though Dave is truly excellent one on one). De Gea is a worldie, but Big Pete was an end of level boss for forwards.
Hard to compare across eras though, I'm interested though, how everyone thinks he compared to Neuer? Might be complete bias, but I think he's been better than him this season.
Hard to compare across eras though, I'm interested though, how everyone thinks he compared to Neuer? Might be complete bias, but I think he's been better than him this season.
Its close between Peter and David, but I think Pete would squeeze a little more out of the defense, and as @ottosec said hed barge through a crowd catch it and still launch it down to pitch. As a keeper I dont think there was anything lacking.
Dave is pretty much excellent at most things, but could still improve.
VDS, good all round, but not excellent at most things. Still not far behind.
Now if one could create a genetically modified human from these 3 hed be a rather good goalie.
Dave is pretty much excellent at most things, but could still improve.
VDS, good all round, but not excellent at most things. Still not far behind.
Now if one could create a genetically modified human from these 3 hed be a rather good goalie.
I still feel he has a lot to prove in big title races and the CL stage. 2012-13 apart, where we walked away with the league, most of his best stuff has come for a team fighting for top 4 and being a bit shit.
DDG will be going nowhere, if the Mourinho-Mendes nexus arrives at the club next season.
This debate is quite like how we used to compare Ronaldo with earlier United legends.
In fairness to Scmeichel, he had some howlers in his time. VDS was better for me, solid performances, dont remember any howlers from him. DDG has potential to outshine them but needs to do some more years between the posts to prove it.
De Gea vs City and Liverpool
David Seaman
Neville Southall
Nigel Martyn
Shay Given
Jaaskelainen
David James
Tim Flowers
Grobelaar
Erik Thorstvedt
Chaka Hislop
Ian Walker
Mark Crossley
Chris Woods
Kevin Pressman
Mart Poom
Kasey Keller
Pavel Srnicek
The great Dane is still the best. Shit, he was the world's best for many years as well. Anyone saying DDG has been better simply didn't watch him enough
The great Dane is the best I've ever seen. He puts Dave and and every other keeper we've ever had in my life time in the second tier. That game against Newcastle was amazing.
De Gea > Schmeichel, though not by much. Over time and absent serious injury, De Gea >>> Schmeiechel.
Consider these facts: Pete didn't join United until he was 28 years old. De Gea is only 25 now.
Schmeichel had a substantially better back line (and squad all around him, of course) than De Gea has ever had.
Consider these facts: Pete didn't join United until he was 28 years old. De Gea is only 25 now.
Schmeichel had a substantially better back line (and squad all around him, of course) than De Gea has ever had.
Ask Dave. I'm sure he'll oblige.
Big Pete by far the best keeper United have ever had. Excellent shot stopping, a real leader & organiser. Also scared the shite of opposing player in those 1 on 1's.
De Gea isn't as good, though he is an excellent keeper in his own right.
Big Pete would improve our defence with his ability to communicate with his back 4. De Gea lacks in the area.
Only Kahn, Barthez, Chilavert, Zenga, Zubizareta, to name but a few.
De Gea isn't even the best keeper currently. Neuer is a better keeper. And I'd say Kahn was a better keeper than Neuer personally.
Big Pete & Kahn were the best keepers, for me Pete was the better of the two. De Gea needs to command his area better to get become a more comparable player.
That save was absolutely outrageous off the line. No right to even try to save anything there just watch Coutinho tap it in but NOPE.
Vidic, Rio, Evra & Rafael
Over Nev, Irwin, Pallister & Johnsen any day for me!
United had a far superior midfield, but let's not make out Blind & Rojo have been the only defenders De Gea has played behind!
We had a few donkeys back in the day, it wasn't all Stam, Nev, Irwin during Petes time.
Still Pete for me, but DDG is getting very close. Schmeichel is the only keeper ive ever seen where you thought he had the upper hand in a one on one.
The only reason we're still REMOTELY close to top 4, we'd be 7th/8th without. Deffo our best ever for me and it will be tough to see him go.
Nope.
DDG: The difference why our highlights are uploaded on youtube and not pornhub
Thank god for that fax machine 
Incredible goalkeeper. It's pathetic how little national caps he has, Del Bosque is an idiot.
Incredible goalkeeper. It's pathetic how little national caps he has, Del Bosque is an idiot.
Don`t know if he is the best we ever had but he is clearly the world`s number 1 right now. And I am not just saying this to console myself.
Peter vs DDG is an irrelevant debate to me. They're both at a certain level where any choice either way is made by such a small margin that it practically becomes irrelevant.
Although I will say that De Gea has age on his side to, possibly, improve... No idea how he can get better, but there you go.
Although I will say that De Gea has age on his side to, possibly, improve... No idea how he can get better, but there you go.
Schmikes made a lot more howlers than DDG but was more commanding than De Gea and a true leader.
I think our team would benefit more from having a Schmeichel in the side right now rather than a De Gea.
That said, I think VDS was better than both of them.
I think our team would benefit more from having a Schmeichel in the side right now rather than a De Gea.
That said, I think VDS was better than both of them.
DDG is a legend in the making. The only thing he's missing is leadership quality. Would love to see him give the defence a rollicking every now and then.
With age and experience I expect De Gea's personality to come through more and to have more command of his defense.
That's one thing Van Der Sar had on both of them, despite Schmeichel's reputation for his conmand (Keane said it was mostly hot air to intimidate than anything constructive). Van Der Sar was a real organiser, constantly arranging the defence ahead of him. It's often said that VDS benefitted from Rio and Vidic but they benefitted equally from him.
And aged 26, it's quite possible he is no longer a United player.
Both Pete and Edwin had absolute rocks in front of them, combined with a dominant strike force that didn't shit themselves in the final third. This all led to lower shots from the opposition.
Spanish Dave goes into every game knowing that he's the most important person on the pitch, as United defend poorly, and don't ever shoot. The fact he pulls it out the bag every single fecking time means he's easily one of the greatest.
However, Peter and Edwin played for teams more at the current level of United - Old City, Villa and Fulham. Would Dave have been better than them there? Probably.
Spanish Dave goes into every game knowing that he's the most important person on the pitch, as United defend poorly, and don't ever shoot. The fact he pulls it out the bag every single fecking time means he's easily one of the greatest.
However, Peter and Edwin played for teams more at the current level of United - Old City, Villa and Fulham. Would Dave have been better than them there? Probably.
Shot stopping wise, I can't remember watching a goalkeeper who is better than De Gea and that includes non United keepers. I've seen ones who are as good like Casillas at his peak but none better really. If you include all parts of goalkeeping like dominating the area, organising the defence and such, I am afraid he is behind Van der Sar and Schmeichel. He is also behind Neuer now. There is just a calmness about him that I am sure comes in handy for his to keep control and not lose his head but it can also contribute in how nonchalant we look when chasing a goal. Maybe what I am trying to say is that the other three look more like leaders and natural captains if needed, De Gea looks a bit too detached for me to ever be a dominant powerful figure.
I think based on the players they have in front of them De Gea is better tbh. He has to be because of the dweebs he has in front of him!. Don't get me wrong I think Schmeichel had more leadership and generally a bigger aura about him but I think De Gea is a better goalkeeper when it is stripped down to his basic goalkeeping ability alone. Taking into account organising from the back and rallying the team I would say Schmeichel was better. So it's quite hard to split them as they're both brilliant but with differing stand out attributes. It's hard to dismiss Van Der Sar though. He was a consummate professional who had everything in his game as a goalkeeper.