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That bad? Can anyone confirm?
Yes, Benfica fans.
He doesn't give one good pass.
Pathetic. He didn't evolve since he was promoted to the first team.
Let's hope Manchester comes with 40 M, so we can buy a real 8.
He has very important technical-tactical deficiencies.
The most overrated player on the planet. It will be the best business of history if we sell him for more than 40 M.
Let's be honest, he's not worth 40 M. at the moment let alone 80.
Did Renato give a good pass?
Renato destroys all our potential attacks.
80 M? I don't understand nothing about football.
And some people say we have to refuse 50 M for Renato.
Renato Sanches? Even for 30 M. So so bad.
Wow.
I'm starting to have doubts.
Renato is exposed to criticism like every player. And he doesn't play a shit, that's the truth.
I'd like to be wrong, but if he leaves this season it's going to be hard for him, he needs to learn a lot. I feel sorry for him, football is shit nowadays.
To pay 40-60 M for a project would be pretty stupid, even more when a more demanding context could affect his evolution.
If he leaves now, the shot is not going to be for Benfica, but for Renato. And the hand who holds the gun is always the same: Jorge Mendes.
The best decision for him now would be to remain here for a pair of years, until he's 20.
Dollars, btw. The reported fee is 45 million pounds unless I'm mistaken, which will be around 30 million pounds as the main fee, and 15 million being achievement-oriented bonuses.
I've seen 40+20m euros and 40+40m euros reported, just couldn't be bothered to do the exact conversion. Either way, it's not my money and all that, but there has to be a line somewhere. If the players best attributes are physicality and athleticism, he's on the wrong side of that line.
If those are comfortably his best attributes then the scouts who suggest him should be fired given they've been stalking him for months now. If they are his best attributes with his dribbling and technical ability also being of a high level, then it's not an issue. From the clips I've seen he looks particularly good at running at defenders, but it's too small a sample size to say much.
I've warned multiple times about the overhyping and that Benfica fans would be laughing all the way to the bank if United paid that ammount. Even so we can't overrate him to the extreme or say that he is rubbish now. He is an 18 year old, in his first half season, with decent performances against the likes of Bayern but obviously with some inconsistency performance wise. He was playing yesterday after he played a very intense friday match against Guimarães. He looked knackered. My input about him is this. He isn't worth the mentioned pricetags and he should stay another year (at least) in the portuguese league, get more experience in the Champions League and prove himself before moving to an european big club and a top league. There is obviously potencial in him to become an interesting player but the overhyping (mainly Benfica and portuguese media fault) can be detrimental to his development. Fame is going up to his head. Benfica and their manager need to do a better job protecting him from all the attention.
Are you portuguese? That is a very good translation. I suppose it's from "Ser Benfiquista" Renato Sanches thread?
Agreed. I'm not going to claim any kind of expertise on the player. I've only seen one or two Benfica games this season + a few youtube compilations and "every touch" videos. From that limited viewing I'm far from convinced though, and like I said, he certainly doesn't look like a LvG type CM. I don't really see what he brings to the table that for example Kante doesn't, and that money would certainly be enough to buy Kante, a more ready made, proven talent.
He's the opposite of a LVG player. He likes positional discipline, good vision of the field and good sense of positioning. He's against taking risks, it's forbidden to lose the ball, and driving through the middle.
This is delightful, you are doing an amazing job. Lovely. Always said he looks naff.
Pretty much this mate. What i wanted to say without having the same eloquency because of my obvious deficiencies with the english language.
I'm not portuguese but I can understand it more or less, with a bit of help (Google translate
).Thank you.
Our scouts seem to rate him if the reports are to be believed.I'm not portuguese but I can understand it more or less, with a bit of help (Google translate
Exactly, is from that forum. Obviously there's positive comments about his potential, and more and less balanced criticism. But I find it funny how many people here is always impressed with him, and they think he will improve our team from the start. While his own fans are mainly saying that he's immature for Benfica and he's not ready for a move.
Thank you.
Kevin was quite dissapointed when we bought Martial aswell.
No where near the finished article, but looks a very talented exciting young player. I thought more would be looking forward to him signing, rather than doom & gloom of recent pages.
Not entirely convinced I am wrong yet. We shall see.
Utter nonsense. Look up my history, search Martial.
Di Maria wasn't a failure, he was the highest assister in the league(until he stopped being played) in a team that was a complete mess. If he stayed with us this season he would have looked a completely different player. He needed willing runners to fully appreciate his risky passing. Having Rooney and Fellaini upfront for most of the season was a huge mistake.
He is truly an amazing poster, to even convince someone as assured of my views and opinions like myself... Up to february 2015 I still found him a nothing player, another Kezman story in a rubbish league that would fail to amount to muh outside of rubbish leagues. He had obvious deficiencies, his dribbling and close control was average and I felt his tricks were pre-rehearsed (did it hundred times by myself in training, let's randomly pull it out, hope it confuses the opponent and make me stumble past him) instead of actually being aware of where he is going with the particular skill during the execution. He would be exposed and I have made posts about it if you search back.That bit
Don't worry. We were all conned.
FFS
