My apologies regarding Martial, guess I mistook you for someone else.
Definitely worth 60Mil though am I right?
I hope for his sake that isn't considered one of his strengths. Doesn't bode well for the rest of his game.
Good job the fee being quoted is 30 odd million then!Definitely worth 60Mil though am I right?
Well the truth is Keanes technique at 18 was in place. One of the hard truths in football is that if a player doesnt have the required technique in place by 16-18 then it is incredibly difficult to get it up to the level required. There are a long list of reasons for that, its not impossible but very difficult.
Sanches doesn't actually have poor technique, even though he doesn't always use it correctly at the moment.
I don't believe Keane was technically gifted but he made up for it with other attributes.
And the rest.
I have to disagree. The place where technique can be seen to be good or bad is at pace and under pressure. I dont mean while running quickly, I mean whilst executing some move and having to do it quickly under pressure. When he is place under pressure and has to use a turn or control move it breaks down.
Well Keane was in the Irish age related training systems before he got to age group level. He was involved in National academies and you dont get into those without being gifted.
I agree with that.
From what I saw of Keane during his 12 yrs with us, I wouldn't call him technically gifted. Scholes was technically gifted not Keane.
Keane was very good technically
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Well possibly what you think is good technique and what i think is good technique are two different things.
Why cant you accept that some people will have differing opinions to yours and stop being so defensive and dismissive of that?
Thats a good way of putting it.
I think the price is clouding things a bit, if we were bringing him in for a Blind level fee then most wouldn't be so bothered, but we are looking at a big outlay initially before even getting to possible add-ons.
Scholes,Zidane,Iniesta, Xavi these are players who were technically brilliant. Keane wasn't close to them on a technical level.
When you talk about technique, what exactly are you referring to?
The Caf has these overreactions over United youngsters who they've personally watched play umpteen games well, but who have the audacity to have a poor game once in a while. Not sure why we'd expect things to be any different for some lad they've seen 4 times on youtube.
First touch, ball control under pressure in tight spaces.
Keane was phenomenal at this. Where he differed from the players you mentioned was more the ability to manipulate the ball to beat players in tight areas.
Ok, now Im not trying to be obtuse or difficult but with respect to those things what tells you that a players technique is good.
We struggled in the Ucl in the 90's at times due to our midfields inability to keep possession against technically good teams.
Not for me. It was due to Sir Alex being tactically inflexible rather than not keeping the ball.
You do realise when we won the UCL in 99 Keane was the main CM not Scholes. Scholes was on the bench in the semis and quarters, not that I am knocking Scholes btw but Keane in the 90s was out main CM and was very technically gifted too.
Yes if he excells.
A player who can express himself even when he's under pressure against top quality opposition. First touch and ball control may look ok against most EPL teams but against Barca, Bayern etc the flaws will show.
And he's going to cost us £40Mil+ and therefore command a starting positon, he's not an improvement on any of ours currently. Martial looked far more of a talent than this lad does. It's a ridiculous risk to take in my books.
