If I remember correctly not much happened when Lewandowski returned apart from the usual boos. He was always a highly professional mercenary and he gave it his all even though his contract was running out so the backlash wasn't that horrible.
Only a couple of clubs are attractive for a player like Hummels, mainly those with a realistic chance of winning a CL title. Not all of those will be actively searching for a player his position. Who is? Bayern ofc. We all heard the rumours about Real or Barca, but there's a bit of a difference between a piece in the gossip column of a sports tabloid and an investment of that size actually agreed upon. He also will have talked to players who have first-hand experience playing for those clubs - Sahin, Kroos, Özil, Trapp, Ter Stegen, Schweinsteiger and might not have liked *every* bit he heard. About Bayern he already knows naturally.
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This really isn't true; there are about 5 clubs in England who would take Hummels and pay a pretty big fee for him. And there's no reason to suggest Barca wouldn't be interested either: a ball-playing, WC winning CB with stacks of experience.
Well.. Why wouldn't Dortmund take a lot of money to not sell him to their rival?
Because Hummels is a cnut and deserves it? Because Watzke wants to create a hostile environment for Hummels to force him to leave this summer, taking away the chance to do a Lewandowski and leave on a free to Bayern one year later?
You don't want him?
Sure I agree, that Hummels deserved the whistles against Wolfsburg (the stuff after the match was a bit OTT though, it just seems bizarre that the team goes over to the fans after a 5-1 trashing and all they hear is whistles and insults, even if it's only targeted at Hummels), for stabbing the club in the back when they were just about to possibly get within striking distance of Bayern again. But if things were really completely open why would Watzke force him out? Dortmund won't get a better player than Hummels, no matter what fee they get, it created bit of turmoil within the club when Dortmund usually work very hard to keep things quiet and Dortmund need Hummels staying for another year to be a viable option on paper if they want to pressure Bayern into a serious offer.
Nope. Wouldn't want him for free. I don't want us to sign any more Dortmund players, I can't stand Hummels and find him insanely annoying and I don't trust his determination, his motivation or his injury record. Don't get me wrong, he's a quality player and actually a bit underrated. His peak years from 2010 to 2013 were nothing but sensational, but I really don't want him at Bayern.
Maybe Hummels really hasn't made up his mind, but Watzke simply doesn't trust him and doesn't want to take the risk? Maybe they don't even mind to see him leaving now? How irreplaceable is he actually considering his performances on the pitch? And his leadership can't be taken seriously anymore, if it ever was as big as some suggested. He certainly never deserved the captaincy. Maybe the fact that he considers going to Bayern is enough for the club to say, go feck yourself?
Imo Hummels has been absolute class this season. Sure you can replace him as a defender, but not his build up skills. He's just so good at deciding when the opponents pressing allows him to advance and then at distributing the ball, which both quite often breaks up the oppositions organization, because it's like having an extra midfielder.
I have to admit that makes sense, but that sword cuts both ways. Because if the enviroment is too hostile Dortmund will be forced to sell and even if it takes Bayern out of the equation a possible foreign club can still use that argument to lower the fee.
Oh well, English clubs suck at lowering the fee. Wouldn't be worried about that. And if Dortmund gets 5m less but sell him abroad, I'm sure they take it.
Kicker is reliable?
Actually yes.
I reckon he thought he could get away with it all on the hush hush, now hes been exposed probably having second thoughts having seen the reaction
that would be awesome
The reaction was quite predictable, so I'd be surprised if it's just that.
Two years at Bayern Munich and he had 10 injury spells + There are much better defenders out there
British players I'll agree with you on. They're actually worse than Germans but Spain and Italy have had more than a few. I can't think of many Germans beyond Ballack (Chelsea), Matthaus (Inter), Klose (Lazio) and Madridistas Illgner, Kroos, Khedeira* and Ozil* (*not real Germans so they get asterisks
) ooh, Carsten Jancker as well but honestly he was shite.Er hat viele trophy angst, ja?
You should put an asterisk behind Klose, he maybe looks more german than the other two but unlike him they spent their whole life in germany.British players I'll agree with you on. They're actually worse than Germans but Spain and Italy have had more than a few. I can't think of many Germans beyond Ballack (Chelsea), Matthaus (Inter), Klose (Lazio) and Madridistas Illgner, Kroos, Khedeira* and Ozil* (*not real Germans so they get asterisks
My consternation comes from the fact that Germans love to travel and emigrate yet as footballers they seem inclined to stay at home. I guess it's a big league and perhaps they don't feel the need to go abroad to have a successful career in the way that Africans, Czechs, Croatians etc, might.
What ancestry does Khedeira have?British players I'll agree with you on. They're actually worse than Germans but Spain and Italy have had more than a few. I can't think of many Germans beyond Ballack (Chelsea), Matthaus (Inter), Klose (Lazio) and Madridistas Illgner, Kroos, Khedeira* and Ozil* (*not real Germans so they get asterisks
My consternation comes from the fact that Germans love to travel and emigrate yet as footballers they seem inclined to stay at home. I guess it's a big league and perhaps they don't feel the need to go abroad to have a successful career in the way that Africans, Czechs, Croatians etc, might.
His dad is Tunisian.
Didn't know Arsenal and Madrid were in Germany.
I think we really need someone to keep Jones constant company in the physio room. I'm not sure he still even knows what a football pitch looks like at this stage.
Schnellinger, Netzer, Breitner, Rummenigge, Kohler, Brehme, Littbarski, Häßler, Förster, Schuster, Stielike, Briegel, Klinsmann, Völler, Möller, Effenberg, Sammer, Reuter, Berthold and many more. Hardly any of the great German players of the 80's and 90's didn't play abroad actually.British players I'll agree with you on. They're actually worse than Germans but Spain and Italy have had more than a few. I can't think of many Germans beyond Ballack (Chelsea), Matthaus (Inter), Klose (Lazio) and Madridistas Illgner, Kroos, Khedeira* and Ozil* (*not real Germans so they get asterisks
My consternation comes from the fact that Germans love to travel and emigrate yet as footballers they seem inclined to stay at home. I guess it's a big league and perhaps they don't feel the need to go abroad to have a successful career in the way that Africans, Czechs, Croatians etc, might.
German mother, Tunisian father, born in Germany and lived and learned playing football in Germany. It's stupid to put an asterisk on it, he's simply German.
It's obviously racist to say Khedira isn't a real German. What the feck is he then? Surely he can't be Tunisian either, because of his German mother? It's sadly common between football fans and some idiots will probably say that we Germans are too sensitive, but it's unacceptable in my opinion. I kinda understand the discussion of ancestry in football when it comes to immigrants or when it comes to naturalisation of adults. But even then it's dangerous to claim that for example Özil isn't 'really German' when he never in his life had a different nationality. His grandparents immigrated to Germany decades before he was born. How long does it take until you're a 'real German'?
You see the same thing with French players of immigrant backgrounds. I constantly here how "foreigners" led France to the 98 World Cup even though basically the whole team grew up in France.
Yeah, it's the same story. It's really sad.
Who says that? That's really stupid.
Well here in the US Jurgen Kinnsmann has had a little bit of criticism when it comes calling up so many players who grew in other countries especially all the sons of American servicemen who grew in Germany. And while I am personally fine with Kinnsmann but, some who defend Jurgen say it is the exact same thing the French did to win the 98 World Cup not noticing the big difference.
Totally agree. Also just look at teams like Belgium or France they have tons of players in their squad that have an ancestral background in other countries but play for the country they grew up in which I think is totally okay but I also don't mind if someone decides they want to play for the country of their (grand-)parents even though I'm sometimes not certain what connection they have to a country that they only know from their holidays but maybe that's because I don't subscribe a blood and soil philosophy.
