José Mourinho | Does anybody else think he is building for the future. Long Term!

[murphs_law]

I am totally going out on a limb here. So allow me!

With the exception of The Mighty Zlatan. Nearly every bit of business done and almost all players linked with United are young players.

This is not the Jose we were promised!
This is not the Jose we have seen in the past!

All the so called experts said, Jose will bring in recognised established players. Claiming he will not give youth a chance. Well i know its early days and links are not signings. But i am totally surprised and impressed by the apparent direction we are taking.

I am absoloutely delighted with every little thing that has happend since Jose took charge. I would have wished we allowed LVG a day or two to celebrate the FA cup win. But im well over that. Even the Eva situation was handled so well. A potential legal bananna skin if ever there was one. Despite the best efforts of the media, the positivity around the club is refreshing and quite intoxicating compared to recent season.

The attitude and professionalism being shown and all the youth being mentioned. Both ours, newly aquired and possibly incoming. I cant help just getting the feeling that Jose might be in this for the long haul. Its just the impression i get.

Do you agree with me or am i overlooking something?

 

[Cina]

Yeah you're really going out on a limb there.

 

[ChaddyP]

i agree. I will give u a reason why when the match is finished

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

Mourinho always arrives with the very best intentions, things just have tendency to get naturally fecked up as he does his thing.

 

[caisenma]

Mourinho always arrives with the very best intentions, things just have tendency to get naturally fecked up as he does his thing.

to be fair though, which manager hasn't had that happen to them outside of SAF?

 

[ADJUDICATOR]

I bloody hope not.

 

[Minimalist]

Everyone tries to make a good first impression don't they.

 

[Jacko21]

Fully agree. Mourinho has long wanted to build a dynasty at a club. When he missed out on the United job in 2013, he resorted to Chelsea and hoped he could achieve something more lasting there - believing the United job was gone for good. It didn't work out (was his heart ever in it?) and he now has the position he has long coveted, going on a decade.

To all intents and purposes this is his last club job, before taking on the Portuguese national role. I don't think it's at all implausible that, if success follows, he'll be here for 5,6,7 years. I was convinced he'd get the job in 2013 and thought we'd see a different Mourinho to the man we've become accustomed to. Yes he is pragmatic, but everything that has happened since his appointment only affirms my belief that he genuinely holds this club in the highest regard.

Why, after spending years angling for the job, would he conduct himself in a manner that might jeopardise his position? It is illogical.

Mourinho joining Instagram is insignificant to some, derided as a PR exercise and a charm offensive. But it gives an insight into our manager. It creates an immediate connection between supporters and the man we're entrusting to lead us to back to the top. Even the posts shared by his wife, son and daughter, lead you to think that this has been his ultimate ambition. Now he finally has the opportunity in which to fulfil it.

It's easy for opposition fans to be cynical. After all, they know that it's boom or bust with Mourinho. And with an inevitable 'boom' comes league titles and European glory.

He needs a good start. He'll be managing in a difficult climate, opposition-wise. The Premier League is as competitive as it has ever been. The six month break will have done him the world of good.

Wait for the moment he walks out at Old Trafford, turns to the Stratford End, beats his chest or pumps his fist and then takes takes his seat for the first time. You'll know then what it means to him.

That's my two cents anyway.

 

[Tarrou]

I hope he is, but there's feck all way of knowing that from what's happened so far. He's signed a 22 year old, and (probably) a 34 year old. The linked players in the press is 99% bollocks so there's no point trying to draw conclusions from it.

 

[duffer]

He won't give a single player from your youth setup a debut next season. He won't be there in 3 years.

Pencil case cnut.

 

[Minimalist]

He won't give a single player from your youth setup a debut next season. He won't be there in 3 years.

Pencil case cnut.

 

[stevoc]

He won't give a single player from your youth setup a debut next season. He won't be there in 3 years.

Pencil case cnut.

You love him really.

 

[Mciahel Goodman]

Signing a young CB, and reportedly chasing Embolo, would suggest a more long term approach.

 

[facund]

He's already had a taste from the outside and I it won't take long for him to truly fall in love with the club. The question about how long he stays depends on whether he can meet the expectations of the club and fans.

 

[Someone]

I think he fancies himself here long term so he has to plan that way.

 

[Tormentor]

Mourinho is here to stay for a long time and you better believe it.

 

[Keeps It tidy]

He has always signed young players. The reason why he is not viewed as a long term manager is because he usually wears out his welcome after a while.

 

[Raoul]

He will probably do the smart thing - which is to buy up some of the best young players rather than be limited to the constraints of our youth system to provide them.

 

[The Mitcher]

One signing...okay.

 

[murphs_law]

He won't give a single player from your youth setup a debut next season. He won't be there in 3 years.

Pencil case cnut.

Ha ha ha ha ha bitter Plastic fc fan

 

[Powderfinger]

He signed young players at Madrid: Ozil (21), Di Maria (22), Khedira (23), Varane (18), Sahin (22), Coentro (23), etc. Big clubs try to sign young players before their prime who seem to be on the cusp of becoming stars. That is how it has always been. It doesn't say anything about the manager's long-term intentions.

 

[Cassidy]

He won't give a single player from your youth setup a debut next season. He won't be there in 3 years.

Pencil case cnut.

I bet you're the type who was saying he wouldn't sign any young players, yet we bought Bailly and are linked with Embolo

 

[murphs_law]

Fully agree. Mourinho has long wanted to build a dynasty at a club. When he missed out the the United job in 2013, he resorted to Chelsea and hoped he could achieve something more lasting there - believing the United job was gone for good. It didn't work out (was his heart ever in it?) and he now has the position he has long coveted, going on a decade.

To all intents as purposes this is his last club job. Before taking on the Portuguese national role. I don't think it's at all implausible that, if success follows, he'll be here for 5,6,7 years. I was convinced he'd get the job in 2013 and thought we'd see a different Mourinho to the man we've become accustomed to. Yes he is pragmatic, but everything that has happened since his appointment only affirms my belief that he genuinely holds this club in the highest regard.

Why, after spending years angling for the job, would he conduct himself in a manner that might jeopardise his position? It is illogical.

Mourinho joining Instagram is insignificant to some, derided as a PR exercise and a charm offensive. But it gives an insight into our manager. It creates an immediate connection between supporters and the man we're entrusting to lead us to back to the top. Even the posts shared by his wife, son and daughter, lead you to think that has been his ultimate ambition. Now he finally has the opportunity in which to fulfil it.

It's easy for opposition fans to be cynical. After all, they know that it's boom or bust with Mourinho. And with an inevitable 'boom' comes league titles and European glory.

He needs a good start Mourinho. He'll be managing in a difficult climate, opposition wise. The Premier League is as competitive as it has ever been. The six month break will have done him the world of good.

Wait for the moment he walks out at Old Trafford, turns to the Stratford End, beats his chest or pumps his fist and then takes takes his seat for the first time. You'll know then what it means to him.

That's my two cents anyway.

Some great points in this.. I agree with you.

 

[RedSky]

I bet you're the type who was saying he wouldn't sign any young players, yet we bought Bailly and are linked with Embolo

To be fair he signed Baba at Chelsea. Didn't play him much mind.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

I bet you're the type who was saying he wouldn't sign any young players, yet we bought Bailly and are linked with Embolo

All very well but will the likes of Blackett, McNair and Love get the chances like they did with Van Gaal? He's already let Nick Powell go FFS.

 

[Cassidy]

All very well but will the likes of Blackett, McNair and Love get the chances like they did with Van Gaal? He's already let Nick Powell go FFS.

 

[ravi2]

He won't give a single player from your youth setup a debut next season. He won't be there in 3 years.

Pencil case cnut.

Heh

 

[duffer]

I bet you're the type who was saying he wouldn't sign any young players, yet we bought Bailly and are linked with Embolo

He has always spunked big money on players in their early 20s. Nothing new there. It's promoting youth players he has not really done.

As for being linked with players, come on!

 

[Cassidy]

To be fair he signed Baba at Chelsea. Didn't play him much mind.

did HE sign Baba, and the other no names CBs or did Chelsea....

 

[Cassidy]

He has always spunked big money on players in their early 20s. Nothing new there. It's promoting youth players he has not really done.

As for being linked with players, come on!

Agreed, it remains to be seen, lets see what happens. I am open minded at the moment

 

[nick2004]

All the opposition fans are scared that he is going to build yet another United dynasty!

 

[tartanbornandred]

Your obviously getting ahead of yourself, he's made one signing.

Your also perhaps misinterpreting the criticism of Mourinho; anyone can sign top young players whom other managers have taken a risk on and invested time to develop. What Mourinho has repeatedly failed to do throughout his career, is to develop young players from his own academy.

If we are seriously after Embolo that's great and it may well be a sign that Mourinho is trying to learn from his mistakes, and appease the United fans who don't want him, but if that's the case then he is making the same mistake as you have. Signing the best young players is very important, but it is not an alternative to nurturing a strong youth system.

 

[El Zoido]

He's talked about settling down before, and said he wanted it to be in England as he feels more at home here than anywhere. He's here for the long haul if we'll have him. He also idolises Fergie and would love to have that kind of legacy.

 

[Theonas]

It's not really up to him though is it. Staying at a big club for a long time is simply a very very tough task. You eventually fall out with people, the hunger and intensity is gone at some point, trouble comes at some point sooner or later and coming back from it is more or less impossible in the modern game. What Fergie did is nothing short of a miracle in terms of management. I can't see any manager making it 5+ years at any one club that is under as much pressure as us.

 

[ReDDHDevilS]

To be fair he signed Baba at Chelsea. Didn't play him much mind.

Baba, Hector, Djilobodji etc. were actually board signings, hence didn't get much/any game time.

Although his own signings Felipe Luis, Cuadrado, Salah, etc. also hardly got any game time before being discarded.

[Source: The Guardian]

 

[ReDDHDevilS]

It's too early to get ahead of ourselves. Let's wait at least 2 years before we jump to any conclusions!

 

[murphs_law]

Your obviously getting ahead of yourself, he's made one signing.

Your also perhaps misinterpreting the criticism of Mourinho; anyone can sign top young players whom other managers have taken a risk on and invested time to develop. What Mourinho has repeatedly failed to do throughout his career, is to develop young players from his own academy.

If we are seriously after Embolo that's great and it may well be a sign that Mourinho is trying to learn from his mistakes, and appease the United fans who don't want him, but if that's the case then he is making the same mistake as you have. Signing the best young players is very important, but it is not an alternative to nurturing a strong youth system.

I haven't signed anybody !!!!

 

[tartanbornandred]

I have't signed anybody !!!!

Mistake in confusing signing top young players with developing home grown talent.

 

[Red_toad]

He has always signed young players. The reason why he is not viewed as a long term manager is because he usually wears out his welcome after a while.

I agree, he has a very good record of signing excellent youngsters. Then either they get loaned out and are then given game time if proven to be good enough for his team, or they instantly become part of his first team squad.
How people judge him on this aspect of his management seems very harsh. He'll enjoy a lot more autonomy at United, than he has had in his last 2 roles.
I fully expect Rashford, TFM & CBJ all to be regularly involved in the first team next season, as they're all good enough to play at a required level now for United.

 

[murphs_law]

Mistake in confusing signing top young players with developing home grown talent.

Has he not already said he will not sign players to stand in the way of the youth? In perticular Rashford.

Im seeing a lot of confusion alright... And many mistakes!