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That price escalated fast. #TheUnitedEffect
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That price escalated fast. #TheUnitedEffect
Soon to be £40m in every English paper.
If true, then Basel will surely accept and it'd just be up to the player/family. I still don't like this sort of move for the kid as I'd prefer him to take a midlevel step rather than end up at such a massive club this soon...and especially because of Mou. Too many young players have been broken thanks to him
I think it is different for players he buys and wants himself, as opposed to academy players that are already there, or buys that are decided at board level (like at Chelsea.)
I think Mou are in 100% control of Manchester Uniteds transfers, something else would be silly tbf, and if he wants him I want him. Simple as.
God it is great to have a manager you trust again.
I concur. There is absolutely no way anyone will be considered outside Mourinho's purview.
After how good Depay looked before he arrived, I try not to put too much stock in performances before signing some young players, and instead trust the current scouts and management.
Yep and i would say it's gutter tabloid maths, but even the BBC are as bad at times.
This is pretty much my view as well. Its easy to spot a talented player, but not so easy to discern whether they have the work ethic and football IQ to take that talent to the next level. At some level, most of these transfers are a bit of a punt.
I think if true, the reported price is a good sign. If United are willing to blow Leipzig out of the water to that extent, the manager must REALLY think highly of him.
To be honest, if we can get Embolo, Bailly and Zlatan in for about £50m, that is a great start to the summer. Getting players in key areas for a good price, and that is before any sales, which could make it £15m net or so, maybe even less given some of the reported players we are willing to sell.
That would certainly leave a sizeable amount to go after a real superstar I think, which I believe we need.
To be honest, if we can get Embolo, Bailly and Zlatan in for about £50m, that is a great start to the summer. Getting players in key areas for a good price, and that is before any sales, which could make it £15m net or so, maybe even less given some of the reported players we are willing to sell.
That would certainly leave a sizeable amount to go after a real superstar I think, which I believe we need.
So do we think we could line up
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martial Micky Targaryan Embolo
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Would make me jizz of joy.
Ideally someone else than Rooney, but let's be realistic here.
martial Micky Targaryan Embolo
Rooney Kante
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Would make me jizz of joy.
Ideally someone else than Rooney, but let's be realistic here.
Oh Embolo
Oh Embolo
Oh Embolo
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Oh Embolo
Ee-e-e-oh-Em-bo-lo
What young player has Mourinho broken?
Thats a ridiculous statement quite frankly.
Thats a ridiculous statement quite frankly.
Here's why I don't like this transfer:
1. He looks VERY raw. Couldn't control a ball in the last game and doesn't seem to have much coordination.
2. It's the type of signing that COULD cement our position outside the CL spots. City, Chelsea and potentially Arsenal will buy TOP quality this summer. We need to be getting three or four of the 200,000 pounds a week players. More 75-125,000 a week players are not required.
3. He doesn't solve any problems in the team. He's not really a right winger or a striker. We need quality starting players immediately.
That said...
1. He does seem to be highly rated by many people who know far more than me about the game.
2. Mourinho seems to be selected him personally.
3. A player can change a lot from age 19 onward (Kane etc).
1. He looks VERY raw. Couldn't control a ball in the last game and doesn't seem to have much coordination.
2. It's the type of signing that COULD cement our position outside the CL spots. City, Chelsea and potentially Arsenal will buy TOP quality this summer. We need to be getting three or four of the 200,000 pounds a week players. More 75-125,000 a week players are not required.
3. He doesn't solve any problems in the team. He's not really a right winger or a striker. We need quality starting players immediately.
That said...
1. He does seem to be highly rated by many people who know far more than me about the game.
2. Mourinho seems to be selected him personally.
3. A player can change a lot from age 19 onward (Kane etc).
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Assuming we get those 2. Embolo would be 1st choice back up.
The core of his first Chelsea team was mostly composed of players 24 years old and under. He gave a loose cannon like Balotelli 70 apps over two years, in a job where his biggest goal was to win the UCL. He pushed for the Varane signing. Thing with Jose is, if you're healthy, good enough and contribute to the team on defense, you'll play.
Granted that Jose has never produced a Cristiano like Ferguson did, which top caliber in this day and age can do that anyway?
Going back to Embolo, he's great but from what I've seen (which is admittedly limited), he seems relentless to the point of recklessness. This could go either way in the PL. I believe the ideal situation for him would be to sign Mkhi as well, which will enable Jose to ease Embolo in to the lineup rather than depend on him from the get go. Starts in the LC, early FA Cup and Europa League rounds and maybe 5 starts + 15 sub appearances in the league should be good for him, as it would be unfair to expect him to do a Martial in his first year.
So we cough up 40m € for this lad, but offer just 25m € for Mkhitaryan. Should i laugh or cry?
Just negotiating, we will meet Dortmunds valuation of 35m euros ++ for Micky Targaryan sooner or later. I think he is seen as a vital cog in our title challenge, and we sure as hell value that over 10m euros or so.
Different kind of shit. At least Martial looked like he had control of his legs
Both at the same time I would think
But i expect us to be offering 50 mill for Mkhitaryan soon enough
Yes because everything you read on the internet is true. Also regarding Embolo he isnt in his last year of his contract and you're paying for potential and he is a forward.
He won't be bought as first choice.
It doesn't work like that.
Heh??? You do understand that the Mkhitaryan bid was reported very exactly in England and Germany from good sources. This Embolo fella will move for a high sum too, not for the initial low offer. So yes, some things on the internet turn out to be true in th end, maybe not on the pages you visit.
Embolo will move anyway, last year or 10 years, no differences. Mkhitaryan wants out too, and i see him as an important player in an important position. Potential is worth nothing currently, we have already enough of that. We need proven class players for our first team, so hopefully we will coug up the money for Henrikh
Why do you think Embolo would be a starter? What about Rashford?
I know this is the transfer forum and so I'm wasting my time with this suggestion but what you should really do is.....
have some patience and see what happens
Is he as comfortable at RW as Embolo who played nearly 50% of his matches from RW though?
Make no mistake, if Rashford is as comfortable as a wide right forward, or a right sided player in a 4-2-3-1 I by far prefer Rashford who is one of our own.
You shouldn't get swept away with transfer talk. Just let it happen and get ready for the season ahead.
I think we need to try to sign some of the talented players from young age that can be developed into very good players in the future.
Many think he should go to some middle club to develop and be very good player before we go for him or such players. However, most of us will be mourning why we didn't go for such players when they were young when they see the price being banded about.
Embolo is very talented albeit look raw, the technique is there and will be improved, the physic is there, and most importantly his football brain seems to be there when you looks at his link up plays.
It's really a gamble with him and such talented players. Even those established ones still could turn out to be very bad. I think he's a worthy gamble for us if we decide to
Many think he should go to some middle club to develop and be very good player before we go for him or such players. However, most of us will be mourning why we didn't go for such players when they were young when they see the price being banded about.
Embolo is very talented albeit look raw, the technique is there and will be improved, the physic is there, and most importantly his football brain seems to be there when you looks at his link up plays.
It's really a gamble with him and such talented players. Even those established ones still could turn out to be very bad. I think he's a worthy gamble for us if we decide to
I dont want Rashford on the wing. I want him to play only as a striker. Thats his best position. Thats where he is dangerous. Leave him up there instead of chopping and changing. Are the likes of Kane and Vardy played on the wing? Im sure they can play there too but will they be as effective there? If we cant give him games up top this season, then I prefer he leaves on loan in order to play every week.
Rashford played many games as a RW in the reserves
With Zlatan seeming more and more likely I think he will mainly be a impact sub and league \ FA cup player and EL player this season, which should give him plenty of matches. Personally I am glad that someone with zero fecks given like Zlatan takes the #9 mantle and weathers the storm and pressure for Rashford for two years or so while he develops.
And no, I wouldn't loan him out since there will be plenty of matches for him to play in (Zlatan is 57 years old, and probably won't be too bothered by being benched for the EL matches), also he will get WC tutoring from Zlatan and Mourinho here, which he won't get at Bournemouth or the likes.
He's the sort of typical Mourinho bad "chelsea" signing
1. we will buy him
2. We will loan him for a couple of seasons
3. He will end up at Stoke in a few years
1. we will buy him
2. We will loan him for a couple of seasons
3. He will end up at Stoke in a few years
I really don't think he's worth 50 million.
Can people just trust the club for once. Every time, you get people who hardly see a player saying, "this is shite". Same on the Mkhitaryan thread.
If Mourinho buys him for €35m, it's because he has high hopes and plans on using him.
If Mourinho buys him for €35m, it's because he has high hopes and plans on using him.
Yeah, I don't know how good this kid is but I don't think many here have seen enough to tell.
Even more ridiculous is how one couldn't name a single youth player Mou has developed nevermind given many chances to even play - 15 years of managing, nada.
Youre the one who made the statement buddy. Who has he ruined?
Its not as if he goes to a club that has a recent history of producing players before and after he joins.
Ill ask again. Who?
Here's the deal with all the young talents out there. We can't be sure if they would succeed or not as it's based on several factors such as Player's intent to keep succeeding, game time they get, rapo with the manager, personal life ect.. There is absolutely no way of knowing if a certain player will be a hit or a flop at a particular club, everything a punt . When you talk about young version of Ronaldo and Nani, talent wise both were on the same level but one went to become one of All time great and other is playing for Fenerbahce, difference between them is their constant will to succeed. Back to topic, €35m for him could look like too much now, but as a fact i know that Mourinho knows more than me or anyone here and will happily welcome Embolo if thats what manager sees fit. One thing that makes me feel good is that , Mou's definitely planning for the future with the purchases he's made and he will be allowed to make mistakes here unlike his previous clubs as long as the fans see progress. As far as Embolo goes he maybe the next Bebe or Ronaldo or someone in-between, it's all upto him.
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