It's apparently their goodwill as he wanted to join us. Like always.
Rummenigge: Some players may think about it in future, to join a club like this.
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Most Bayern Munich fans i know are criticizing Rummenigge that he must give his opinion about every football topic and they can't wait so see Hoeness back as Bayern Munich boss......Rummenigge is a twat.
He has talked about Draxler in a bad way too after yesterdays match against Real Madrid.
It's clear why Rummenigge talks bad about clubs like Manchester United.....he has worried about the english money.
He has talked about Draxler in a bad way too after yesterdays match against Real Madrid.
It's clear why Rummenigge talks bad about clubs like Manchester United.....he has worried about the english money.
The irony of some people's comments in here seem completely lost on them. So, it's ok to believe the stuff that the media are peddling - which at this time is speculative - but, we have to assume that Bastian has done no wrong, just because, like.......
The moral outrage over this is ridiculous.
If he continues to be silent whilst his mates take digs then I don't think it will reflect too well on him, particularly amongst United fans who are currently divided over this. He has really done nothing in a United shirt with last season a write off.
Prolonged relegation to reserves when it's not a disciplinary issue is regarded as a breach of contract and he will be due a huge compensation.
You're comparing your clubs backing of Suarez to erm a new manager not wanting a player (and a whole load of unfounded speculation on top of that)? feck me
As I've stated, this thread is turning into agenda driven nonsense. Funny how all the rival fans in here are backing Schweinsteiger. Nothing to do with wanting having a pop at Mourinho or our club is it
Someone like Basti who purposely put himself outside of the team? He isn't respected at United because he didn't conduct himself in a respectful way.
Rummenigge can't keep his mouth shut. I don't think it's an English league issue. (He certainly doesn't like the money and is one of the people pushing for an European Super league) he just can't keep quiet on issues hat aren't his business.
Nah mate. Openly supporting a racist is the exact same as a new manager wanting to get rid of a player that he doesn't want. Get with the times.
I have no idea why Mourinho is doing anything. But I've said before, that I find it hard to believe that someone always known as a great professional like Basti, would suddenly change. Not saying it isn't possible - am saying I need to see conclusive proof of that happening as it seems improbable. I also have no time for people who snitch on their team mates. If they a problem with him or anyone else - deal with it internally. By going to the press, they lose sympathy from me. Sorry, that's my personal stance on those things.
The two situations are barely comparable.
Im guessing you didn't know this is standard procedure when a player is not wanted or is about to be transferred? There's no point in these players training with the first team when they won't be part of it.
We are a disgrace tbf.
We should be paying his pension for those decent 20 mins he once put in for us and all the pointing he done.
We should be paying his pension for those decent 20 mins he once put in for us and all the pointing he done.
Real Madrid force a player our every year. it's nothing new, I don't agree with the consequences that Rummenigge is warning about . Forcing Bastian out won't deter the best talents from coming here. It hasnt for Madrid, Barcelona have done it too. I just personally thought we should have given him a change to prove himself under Mourinho just like others were given a go,but Rummenigge is talking shite
By the way, is that a fact or a rumour?
If you've ever had the press whip up a huge storm because your manager kicked a boot and it hit a player's head
If you've ever had your manager refuse to talk to the BBC for several years because of some largely accurate and fair reporting
If you've ever had your manager constantly bully players, refs, journalists
If you've been involved with wishing Fergie would stay at Old Trafford
Well this is what you get.
For years successful United managers have done this. This is what we now have to deal with. The people who like this style have currently "won back" the club. Short term controversy is what you get when your club is breaking transfer records - as we used to through the 90s and 00s.
Not sure what the match-going fans bit is meant to mean, but it sounds a bit like it might be hinting at something pretty unhinged.
Even if you have a passionate moral objection to Rooney (or whoever) telling the press about slacking team-mates that has no bearing on whether Mourinho's decision is fair. What it does do, though, is provide an obvious and reasonable reason for him to be acting the way he is. Seems a bit strange to ignore it, in the absence of any other plausible explanation.
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There seems to be so much more asshattery around United these days. Maybe SAF kept most things under wraps. But I certainly feel like I like the individuals in our squad less than a few years ago. With a few exceptions of course
I dont believe this is something that is unique in football. A player being told he is not in the managers plans and is forced to train with the reserves. The reason it is such a big thing is that its Schweinsteiger.
If this was done to Lingard who played just as many games as Bastian last season would the reaction be the same?
If this was done to Lingard who played just as many games as Bastian last season would the reaction be the same?
Not sure what its got to do with Stefanovic but Mourinho should be jailed over this apprently
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36975545
I hope your version of 'barely' means 'not in the slightest way'.
Let's be honest and say it's because you don't like the individuals accused of doing the 'snitching'.
In Nazi Germany Mourinho would have been shot. In Medieval times he would have been sent to the crusadesNot sure what its got to do with Stefanovic but Mourinho should be jailed over this apprently
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36975545
Yes. When LVG became their manager he got rid of Hummels, Podolski, Lucio (his supporters said it was because he's Brazilian) and Luca Toni. Toni and Lucio both left unceremoniously and Podolski demanded a transfer
Lucio on leaving Bayern in 2009:
“I am happy for Inter and a little sorry for my former fans,” to Lucio told Tz. “Half of my heart is for the Bavarians and I could’ve ended my career in Germany, but Louis Van Gaal, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge and Uli Hoeness made me leave."
We all know Luca Toni's troubles with LVG before he left:
“Certainly I will be leaving Munich,” he said on a visit to a supporters’ club in South Tirol. “That will be decided in the next 10 days but I don’t have any chances left here. You have more chance of winning the lottery than me staying at FCB.”
Toni was sent back to Italy on a day when each member of the Bayern squad was involved in a different supporters’ club’s Christmas party.
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not sure why the fact hes a german legend has anything to do with United, hes been here 1 season, been in poor form or injured for majority of that time, not in Jose's plans so let him help with the Young players who can then see how a German legend works
When has that ever happened?
It might do, we don't know - that's what the press infers - that Mourinho got reports from the players about Bastian and has acted using the information given to him by them.
Whatever, the point I was making is that all these reports came out in public as a result of leaks from so called 'senior players', and this report has been used to bash Basti with. Fans now speak as if this is the truth and that's fine.
I myself have no clue what is the truth - all I'm saying is that anyone who resorts to making comments through the press are generally people I have no time for. Therefore, if I'm asked to believe either party as it stands, I'm not going to back a dressing room snitch over someone who has always showed the opposite behaviour and been very professional - unless I get conclusive proof. I'll reiterate again that I'm not saying Basti's not being a cnut - I'm saying I find it hard to believe based on what's known of his character and his past professionalism.
Is it? I don't think they're cast away from training with the first team etc. And in your Toni example it wasn't reported that the same treatment was given to him in that regard?
My issue isn't so much with Bastian being put up for sale. Its more physically segregating him from the entire squad. I don't think players up for sale undergo that as part of the process.
That's not what the press infers at all. Why would Mourinho rely on the reports from the players anyway? There's a whole bunch of other staff at the club he can talk to.
Since when are you being asked to back a "dressing room snitch"? What's being discussed is a decision taken by the manager. As an aside, how do you think the stories leaked about how Schweinsteiger is being treated?
You're comparing your clubs backing of Suarez to erm a new manager not wanting a player (and a whole load of unfounded speculation on top of that)? feck me
As I've stated, this thread is turning into agenda driven nonsense. Funny how all the rival fans in here are backing Schweinsteiger. Nothing to do with wanting having a pop at Mourinho or our club is it
I cant believe you all bit
A manger is entitled to do what he wants, its his team and its his job on the line, he should be allowed to have whoever he sees fit around the squad.
Sorry, all the reports I've read in the press has inferred just that. If you've seen something else fine, but I haven't seen one report that infers otherwise. Then again, it could just be the press putting their spin on things - you know how shit they can be.
Anyway, it would be nice to know if Mourinho did a thorough investigation and has not based his actions on just what was said by the players.
I think Mourinho is definitely wrong here. If you want to send out a message to a player who sees United as a retirment home you ask the whole sqaud to pee on his locker!
If that's what you've read, then fair enough. I've honestly not read a single article which said that Mourinho's decision was based on a briefing from players in the squad. I may have missed it though.
Yeah, I added 'barely' to be on the safe side, but it was an obvious WUM that we all bit.
Didnt LVG do exactly just this with Valdes?
No. Valdes was asked to do games with U21, to keep his level up. Valdes didn't want to, and thus was ignored from that point on.
Mourinho just doesn't see Schweinsteiger in his plans, and puts him aside because he doesn't want to be sold (he earns 3rd most of United).
No worries. I don't read all the newspapers or such as well, so I may have missed something else.
All I want now is for the club to resolve the situation amicably. We don't need this kind of distraction before the season starts.
There hasn't been any articles inferring he was told my players. It's yet another conspiracy in the mind of people desperate to attack certain players.