Eh? This isn't Jack Warner making the decision, it is the FA.
Aguero's elbow on Reid | Appeal rejected - Three match ban
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
And they can't be paid off? Oil money. Man's gotta eat.
err Yes. We do know these people are above it all.
Yes.
He's no angel, that's true.
Someone on here had a go at him recently for being too nice and I drew their attention to the spit.
The amount of clogging he gets from opponents which contribute to his injury-prone tag to me excuses the nastier side of his game.
Being kicked lumps out of is something I have sympathy with players for, especially the super talented ones who get targeted by talentless thugs.
It's not phony bravado, obviously Aguero playing for the opposition makes me nervous. But I don't just want the win on the day, I want us at our best to be better than them at theirs. If we're not, then we're not. But a club like United should be taking down other good teams at full strength.
If he scores the winner it means that a) the FA are cowards and b) we couldn't beat them at Old Trafford, again. And the second one is a much bigger issue for us.
You're living in the past, we're not the dominant force of old, the quicker people realise that the better. We're a good team in good form with a very good manager going up against another team in the same circumstances. I'll take any advantage we can get.
I'm not living in the past. I'm not saying we'd whoop them, in fact I stated we might not. But it's City at Old Trafford, and we should have some goddamn pride in ourselves and the confidence that we can take them with or without Aguero.
Look, I won't be sad if he gets banned. Of course that there's a part of me that will be relieved at that. But if he does play, and we do beat them, it'll be sweeter.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Aguero suffers mostly from muscular injuries, right? There's no correlation (if that's true) between the 'clogging' he gets, and the injuries. Take Hazard and Martial, for example: they are two players that are fouled more than most, yet rarely suffer injuries. They also get on with the game, and rely on the refs to protect them, not some petty shite like elbows/stamps.
He suffers both muscular and impact injuries.
He gets clogged week in, week out especially when playing lower table teams whose "tactic" is to team foul Aguero and Silva. These don't always result in matches missed but he's looking after himself by sometimes getting his retaliation in first and I don't blame him for that.
He'll get a ban and rightly so IMO but would rather that than just meekly take the kicking and the debilitating effect that would have.
Martial has had one season at top level, let's have a larger sample of games before presenting him as a paragon of virtue, shall we?
A Sun reporter saying on twitter that he has been told that Marriner has said in his report that he didn't saw the Aguero incident and thus he's likely to be banned.
Have read something similar. He was in prime position to see the incident but presumably just saw the players jumping together and missed the contact which was slight but the spot where the elbow landed is a particularly delicate one.
The ban looks inevitable now and would be the right decision.
Knowing how strict Pep usually is when it comes to discipline, it'll be interesting to see how he reacts to this. Absolutely mindless by Aguero.
I'm sure he'll have a quiet word.
May not work out too badly though, 3 match ban would see him miss United (has calf injury, may not have played anyway), Swansea in LC (unlikely to have started) and Bournemouth (h).
These little absurdities that seem to take off from time to time off the back of a few people saying something never cease to amaze me. This is professional sport.
I could almost understand it in terms of a one off champions league tie versus one of the greats but anybody saying that they'd prefer aguero to play in the Derby as some sort of moral or statement of defiance is absolutely ludicrous.
Through the years we've missed our fair share of key players in crucial games and went on to lose league titles by fractions. Are our opposition feeling as if theyve stolen the points? Are they feck. See Chelsea at home in 2010, we lost Rooney when he was on fire. Who remembers who won the league. Aguero knew there was a Derby and he threw a shitty elbow so that's the rules. Tough shit. He won't only miss the Derby but two other games too and I hope they drop points in those games as a result. Wait for big games later in the season where pogba or ibrahimovich are injured. Let's see if the sentiment is even remotely reciprocated.
Truly bizarre.
I could almost understand it in terms of a one off champions league tie versus one of the greats but anybody saying that they'd prefer aguero to play in the Derby as some sort of moral or statement of defiance is absolutely ludicrous.
Through the years we've missed our fair share of key players in crucial games and went on to lose league titles by fractions. Are our opposition feeling as if theyve stolen the points? Are they feck. See Chelsea at home in 2010, we lost Rooney when he was on fire. Who remembers who won the league. Aguero knew there was a Derby and he threw a shitty elbow so that's the rules. Tough shit. He won't only miss the Derby but two other games too and I hope they drop points in those games as a result. Wait for big games later in the season where pogba or ibrahimovich are injured. Let's see if the sentiment is even remotely reciprocated.
Truly bizarre.
There's no guarantee that we'd win with him being suspended. In fact I'd say we are more likely to catch them on the break with him playing. Last season game at OT being a case in hand, a dour affair with most of the game barely reaching both boxes.
Now, after all these pages of jinxing, it's inevitable that either he will destroy us (if he plays) or his replacement will play a blinder (if he's banned).
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IheanachrickAfter all these pages of jinxing, it's inevitable that either he will destroy us (if he plays) or his replacement will play a blinder (if he's banned).
These points we might take from City may well end up rather important in the end and, in that case, no one will care much how we got them.
Points outlive pride.
I want both.
Would you argue there's no pride to be had in beating City without Agüero? He's a very important player for them, but they're far from a one man team. They're very capable of beating us without him if we don't play at our best. Beating City at Old Trafford would give us plenty of pride, with or without Agüero. Him missing the game would be a shame for City and neutrals but it doesn't devalue the game.
Sometimes I log on and think to myself ... "What the feck is this place ?"
Bluemoon or Rawk, can't tell the difference?
So if we beat them and they're missing Augero you'll just shrug your shoulders?
Absolute madness on this forum sometimes.
I'd quite happily have every member of their first team suspended, I couldn't give a feck.
Wonder what their reaction was after 8-2 when Arsenal had a million injuries. Probably a dark day in their lives.
Him being suspended gives us a better chance, so I hope for him to be suspended.. Such simple logic!! Who gives a feck about whose playing as long as we win 3 points..
Yes thats what i said. "Ill shrug my shoulders if we win". Madness.
Bluemoon. 
Everybody is afraid of them.especially us. They want so bad for someone to be afraid of the mighty City.
Everybody is afraid of them.especially us. They want so bad for someone to be afraid of the mighty City.
Strange these media conspiracies. I can swear that Fellaini and Schweinsteigers incidents from last year were smeared out in every newspaper and news outlet there is. I must have been dreaming.
If they had a player banned for something that was not referenced in any rule book, like say, having the mic on a mobile camera pick up swearing, and rules being invented retrospectively, then I'd understand the foil hat brigade, but.....
There's a subtle but noticeable difference. Rawk is more delusional while Bluemoon is more bitter, abusive and plain disturbing. And of course "rag" is usually a dead giveaway.
They blame everyone under the sun for trying to get Agüero suspended, when every sane person would recognize Agüero as the sole guilty party and accept that his action deserved some form of punishment. It's quite interesting how they constantly go on about how classy their club and set of supporters are and how they always seem to have the moral high ground, but when one of their own should be punished they seem to consider themselves above the rules and become the most abusive bunch ever to defile the internet. How do they justify these contradictions to themselves?
With City I imagine it must be a chronic underlying insecurity. At least Liverpool have history and European Cups.
"We're much scarier than AIDS or Dracula, 'cause City are a massive club."
Do you guys think that a Pep's formation without forward/striker is even more scarier?
Nothing scares me about City, so really I couldn't give a toss if they have Aguero banned or not, we haven't played a team as organized and quick as them nor have they played a team with our quality and monsters.
They were excellent in that first half against West Ham but I don't think anyone watching really expected them to keep it up and I even called it whilst watching that West Ham have way more spirit than what they showed and would rally and come back. Not a chance that they manage that passing game against us with Pogba, Herrera chasing down balls and the attacking power we have in the middle and up top.
Even last season we managed to beat them on their own soil with young Rashford, they barely got through us so honestly Im not worried at all and if we do loose somehow I wont be worried either as both teams are early in the adapting process.
Can see this going the same way as the Fergie vs Chelsea games either nil nil or we blast them with some early goals or vice versa.
They were excellent in that first half against West Ham but I don't think anyone watching really expected them to keep it up and I even called it whilst watching that West Ham have way more spirit than what they showed and would rally and come back. Not a chance that they manage that passing game against us with Pogba, Herrera chasing down balls and the attacking power we have in the middle and up top.
Even last season we managed to beat them on their own soil with young Rashford, they barely got through us so honestly Im not worried at all and if we do loose somehow I wont be worried either as both teams are early in the adapting process.
Can see this going the same way as the Fergie vs Chelsea games either nil nil or we blast them with some early goals or vice versa.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're stating that you'd rather Aguero continue to elbow people, resulting in a ban, than have him "meekly take the kicking"? You can't possibly believe that?
I also referred to Hazard, who was at one stage the most fouled player in Europe. He got up and got on with it. Januzaj the same, during his 'breakout' season. Ronaldo as a youngster too, and the list goes on. Aguero, as an experienced pro, should be better than that.
In regard to Martial: I was only referring to one season at the top level when I referred to the amount of fouls on him.
Fixed it for you.
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