Danny 'Local Lad' Welbeck

[::sonny::]

He is a classic decent player who came out of our academy, like as:

Gibson
Cleverley
Shawcross
M.Keane
M.James
R.Morrison
R.Brady
Zieler
...
An average one, for a mid table premier league club, like his former mates.

 

[sincher]

Not signing Ibrahimovic would have been a perfectly decent plan IMO. I mean he is quality, and has done well, but our game is less dynamic and Martial and Rashford would have played more, and more together which I think could really hurt defences.

And that's Ibrahimovic, a physical beast who rarely misses game. Falcao was different -yes I thought it would go better but you still have to call it a mistake.

 

[Ronaldo's Mum Eh?]

Fantastic deal for us to get rid of him. Arsenal haven't go their money's worth as he never plays and he's not a real goal scorer. If we should regret anyone it should be Chicharito, as he was twice the player Welbeck will ever be.

 

[ColvaleGoa]

Does Anyone think Welbeck would have been an ideal Wideman for José? Sort of in the Willian mode?

Anyways all the best to him, always good to see Homegrown talent do well for themselves albeit not against us!

 

[TheSweeper]

We replaced welbeck with Rashford & Martial - time to move on. Though I understand the love for him as he was one of our own - I like the current batch of youngsters much better including the boy that gets hated on in Lingard.

I find the weird fascination over Hernandez confusing though. The guy has always been a pants player who can score goals only when the rest of the team is playing at 120% & laying things up to him on a plate.

 

[sincher]

Arsenal could still easily get their money's worth. In fact if he can stay fit he will be a bargain.

 

[Jaybomb]

Lingard is not at Welbeck's level, that is ridiculous. Just look at what Welbeck has done for England for starters. So underrated, because of the injuries and being played out of position. He has been quality as a centre forward for club and country.

England aside, Lingard has out performed him in the United shirt. His FA Cup final winning goal alone puts him ahead of Welbeck but theres also the cracker against Chelsea last season and that class solo goal against Leicester in the Community Shield that nobody seems to ever recognize.

Welbeck once went an entire season only scoring ONE goal for us. And he was playing nearly every game.

 

[Leftback99]

I'll find it annoying that we sold him to a major rival for just £16m (less than we paid for Rojo, similar to what we paid for Darmian) until we actually have a better team and finish above them again.

 

[Jaybomb]

I find the weird fascination over Hernandez confusing though. The guy has always been a pants player who can score goals only when the rest of the team is playing at 120% & laying things up to him on a plate.

Thats a bizarre statement. Hernandez stretched the defence and made excellent runs. I hate that because he scored a lot, people think he was one dimensional. Every other aspect of his game is severely underrated... passing, link up play, heading and pace being the main aspects.

I never saw a player get criticised for actually scoring goals. Yet Welbeck couldn't score in a brothel and his departure is deemed a "mistake"

I don't get this at all. If I could bring one player back to United, it would be Chicha.

 

[Massive Spanner]

Who the hell keeps making these god awful thread title changes here and the Spuds and Klopp thread etc.?

 

[Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87]

Back on the treatment table before season end.

Lol! You can't prevent such a long injury like the one he has just suffered.

 

[Jaybomb]

I'll find it annoying that we sold him to a major rival for just £16m (less than we paid for Rojo, similar to what we paid for Darmian) until we actually have a better team and finish above them again.

Rojo has been excellent this season and theres no way anyone would pay more than that for a striker that can't score. Hes supposed to be "United through and through" yet he seems happy to be playing for one of our biggest rivals... good riddence in my opinion. Anyone that truly loved the club wouldn't do that.

Even Berbatov turned down City and Chicharito said he wouldn't play for another Premier League team. Those guys are legends in my opinion.

 

[TheSweeper]

Thats a bizarre statement. Hernandez stretched the defence and made excellent runs. I hate that because he scored a lot, people think he was one dimensional. Every other aspect of his game is severely underrated... passing, link up play, heading and pace being the main aspects.

I never saw a player get criticised for actually scoring goals. Yet Welbeck couldn't score in a brothel and his departure is deemed a "mistake"

I don't get this at all. If I could bring one player back to United, it would be Chicha.

Fair enough your entitled to your opinion. He has never been good enough to be starter & if he was he is more alkin to someone like ll0rtene for bilba0

 

[Amar__]

Boring Saturday evening, so I did some pointless comparision. Included just the players who were supposed to be his competition over last few years since he left. Mins per goal or assist:
- Welbeck, every 167.6 minutes(134 for Arsenal)
- Mata, every 162 minutes,
- Rashford, every 170 minutes,
- Martial, every 143 minutes,
- Lingard, every 231 minutes
- Mkhi, every 167 minutes(small sample though)
- Ibrahimovic, every 105 minutes.

Didn't include the likes of Depay or Young as it would be pointless.

Bit surprised with his ratio tbf, thought it would be worse considering he isn't really known for his end product. Even better for Arsenal.

 

[Jaybomb]

Fair enough your entitled to your opinion. He has never been good enough to be starter & if he was he is more alkin to someone like ll0rtene for bilba0

When he was a starter, we won the league and reached the final of the Champions League.

Funny that.

 

[Nickosaur]

Zup Welbz

 

[Sandikan]

Fantastic deal for us to get rid of him. Arsenal haven't go their money's worth as he never plays and he's not a real goal scorer. If we should regret anyone it should be Chicharito, as he was twice the player Welbeck will ever be.

You're acting like Welbeck was Lingard's less talented, less physically adept brother, while Chico was Van Nistelrooy's higher output brother.

 

[finneh]

His injuries are preventing him from being remembered as a really good player at a club like Stoke.

 

[adamwest]

Not signing Ibrahimovic would have been a perfectly decent plan IMO. I mean he is quality, and has done well, but our game is less dynamic and Martial and Rashford would have played more, and more together which I think could really hurt defences.

And that's Ibrahimovic, a physical beast who rarely misses game. Falcao was different -yes I thought it would go better but you still have to call it a mistake.

...

The same guy who has been our top scorer this season?

 

[Ban]

He's still young. Only 26 so whatever he lacks as a player he will be better in the future.

Jokes aside. I still don't understand how anyone thinks it was a mistake to sell him. He's bang average, always was, always will be.

 

[Ban]

How about we share some memories about Welbeck at United? Like the time he took the lead against Mourinho's Real Madrid


He was so good in that game.

Oh the mythical Madrid game. He was world class in that game. That's a sole reason why we shouldn't have sold him.

 

[sullydnl]

...

The same guy who has been our top scorer this season?

If we wanted goals we wouldn't be in the Danny Wellbeck thread.

 

[ZIDANE]

Good player and didn't want him sold. However, thinking objectively, he isn't on the same level as RVP, Zlatan, or Rooney (prime) which we need to win the title. His terrible luck with injuries prevents him being consistently good and he wanted to leave.

And whilst we aren't fans of Van Gaal he specifically mentioned it was also about giving youth a chance. To be fair, keeping Danny could've impacted the chances and development of Martial, Rashford, and Lingard.

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

The way I see it, keeping Welbeck wouldn't have changed our last few years as he wouldn't have made any difference, giving other players chances could have but so far hasn't either but the players we have now in the positions he would occupy are better quality and I believe will take us to the next step of challenging again for the title, if we had kept Welbeck that might not be the case.

He wanted first team football and chose Arsenal, a team he wasn't going to be a first choice for especially in the position he wanted. It was a poor choice for him, irrelevant of injuries. Hope it works out but I think he'll have to move elsewhere soon enough to actually play often enough.

 

[Ronaldo's Mum Eh?]

You're acting like Welbeck was Lingard's less talented, less physically adept brother, while Chico was Van Nistelrooy's higher output brother.

In terms of finishing and scoring goals, Chicharito was on a different planet to Welbeck who couldn't score in a full house brothel.

 

[pocco]

He is a classic decent player who came out of our academy, like as:

Gibson
Cleverley
Shawcross
M.Keane
M.James
R.Morrison
R.Brady
Zieler
...
An average one, for a mid table premier league club, like his former mates.

He's miles better than those listed, christ. Morrison is on another level talent wise too but that's a different story.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

In terms of finishing and scoring goals, Chicharito was on a different planet to Welbeck who couldn't score in a full house brothel.

Yet scored a brace today. Crazy, huh?

 

[lem8sh]

Who the hell keeps making these god awful thread title changes here and the Spuds and Klopp thread etc.?

The OP

 

[ROFLUTION]

Boring Saturday evening, so I did some pointless comparision. Included just the players who were supposed to be his competition over last few years since he left. Mins per goal or assist:
- Welbeck, every 167.6 minutes(134 for Arsenal)
- Mata, every 162 minutes,
- Rashford, every 170 minutes,
- Martial, every 143 minutes,
- Lingard, every 231 minutes
- Mkhi, every 167 minutes(small sample though)
- Ibrahimovic, every 105 minutes.

Didn't include the likes of Depay or Young as it would be pointless.

Bit surprised with his ratio tbf, thought it would be worse considering he isn't really known for his end product. Even better for Arsenal.

Love some sexy saturday-evening stats Welbeck (and Ibra) played for much more striving teams overall though.

 

[hubbuh]

I don't see a clinical finisher in him though, big, fast and strong, sure, but he never struck me as having a fast enough football brain to take advantage of the raw abilities he has

He has a great football brain. He was really effective on the left side for us, linking up well with incisive passing. He could do most things, scoring regularly was not one of them.

 

[royboy16]

Better than Lingard to be honest.

They're both shite in fairness.

 

[Chekhov]

Yet scored a brace today. Crazy, huh?

Stop the presses! A striker put the ball in the back of the net! I'm amazed, I tell ya!

 

[Chekhov]

Fair enough your entitled to your opinion. He has never been good enough to be starter & if he was he is more alkin to someone like ll0rtene for bilba0

Bilbao? You do know he's starting striker on a team scheduled to play in the round of sixteen of the CL in a few weeks, don't you?

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

He has a great football brain. He was really effective on the left side for us, linking up well with incisive passing. He could do most things, scoring regularly was not one of them.

He was ok, wouldn't ever say he was great. Home grown player bias happens all the time.

 

[John_Jensen]

He has a great football brain. He was really effective on the left side for us, linking up well with incisive passing. He could do most things, scoring regularly was not one of them.

He links up play very well, works like a trojan and has great physical qualities. When presented with clear opportunities it often seems like he momentarily forgets how to control his limbs at the vital moment.

Hopefully he can keep fit for a long stretch now and get a proper run going, he really puts in a shift on that left side.

 

[Massive Spanner]

The OP

The OP needs to stOP.

 

[BennyBlanco]

The new Heskey, adds positive attributes to the team yet attrocious infront of goal. Seems to average about 8-9 goals a season, total.
Ps. to those saying he could do a job for us on the left, wasnt the reason he asked to leave under Moyes 1st time around was because... he didn't want to play left side? He wanted to play up top.

 

[Tapori]

Full fitness, he would definitely be a Mourinho type player, especially when we see how Jose values Lingard.

Top player, rather he stayed. Wish him well. Gives Arsenal a better shape in attack.

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

The season he left he scored a total of 4 league goals, the same as Falcao, in a team playing vastly better.

But sure, Welbz eh? Zup zup.

 

[Garethw]

I'll find it annoying that we sold him to a major rival for just £16m (less than we paid for Rojo, similar to what we paid for Darmian) until we actually have a better team and finish above them again.

The premium on England players alone should have ensured we got over £20 million for him.