Week 11 is when we were 6th for the first time.
Top 4 race 2016/17
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So we've been 6th for 14 weeks in a row now! There needs to be a poll on which game week we finally get out of the 6th spot.
And so are we! We might have a good squad but handling that many games is near impossible.
Isn't this the last round that the FA cup has replays?
So much for this busy period we were told about. Rotate on Sunday and for the 2nd leg and we'll be bouncing into the cup final. Not exactly overloaded
You are about to finish 3rd based on our and Spur's form.
Think 2nd is on the cards if we can keep our momentum.
A nice draw with Blackburn using your rotated team please.
Push that City game into April.I think Jose (like Fergie) knows the league like the back of his hand with which games we will drop points and which games we need to be at our best to win.
It's not this month that's the problem, it'll hit us hard in April/May when we hopefully have Europa League as well as rearranged City and Southampton away games (and maybe even more if we continue to progress in the FA Cup)
Can't be as busy as this month though. Last week we were looking at 5 games in 15 days, now we'll probably play Mkhitaryan on Sunday for some match sharpness in preperation for a game a week away.
A harder FA cup draw and a dodgy result tonight would have seen us in big trouble
Only cowards are scared of fixtures.
Fixtures are a by-product of a successful season. If you have lots of fixtures to work around, it means you're doing something well.
Increasingly they seem to be used as a crutch for fans of teams who are failing and therefore don't have many games.
Why support or watch your team at all if you want to wish away half the season's games for some chance at entering a competition you have neither the ambition nor the wherewithal to compete in.
Fixtures are a by-product of a successful season. If you have lots of fixtures to work around, it means you're doing something well.
Increasingly they seem to be used as a crutch for fans of teams who are failing and therefore don't have many games.
Why support or watch your team at all if you want to wish away half the season's games for some chance at entering a competition you have neither the ambition nor the wherewithal to compete in.
Liverpool were overloaded with fixtures last season. We won feck all and finished 8th (not 6th, 8th). Oh how you laughed at all the competition we were 'in'.
Nobody laughed at you being in competitions. We laughed at you losing games and fecking all those competitions up. A consistent laugh you have provided to us for years.
We can only guess, but this United side look to have silverware in them (managed by a winner, side full of winners, very difficult to beat). That's what it's all about at the end of the day, winning silverware, not some losers competition so see who can play the fewest games in a season.
I'd be fecking pissed off if I could only watch this United team play once every 2 weeks.
We didn't have a squad that could successfully achieve its goals across four fronts last season, as opposed to 2000/01 for example when we did have a squad that was good enough to get everything we wanted.
United have a squad that should be able to cope based on what I've seen so far. They'll probably end up in the top four and with a trophy or two as well. They might run out of gas towards the end of the season but I think it's looking like they're going to end up happy with the way their season turns out.
Our squad is better than Liverpools last season tho.
Absolutely fecking right on. Totally agree, and well said.
I love this period of the season when the games are thick and fast, it's part of being a United fan, and it's great.
Right now we're in contention to win 3 trophies and are in a really exciting race for top 4 with Arse, Liverpool, City & Spurs.
It's exciting, it's what United is about - competing for everything, and doing so with hunger.
Credit to José for bringing that feeling back.
You have superior commercial and match day revenue to everyone else in the league, you have spent record sums on players (wages and
transfer fees) under Moyes, LVG, and Mourinho. You are doing very well in the cups, granted, but in the league you are closer to 7th than 1st and not in the Champions League (but to be fair you wouldn't have a hope in hell of winning that anyway) so in real terms in the two main competitions you are way, way off of being a challenging force.
You were lucky yesterday with the refereeing decisions too.
transfer fees) under Moyes, LVG, and Mourinho. You are doing very well in the cups, granted, but in the league you are closer to 7th than 1st and not in the Champions League (but to be fair you wouldn't have a hope in hell of winning that anyway) so in real terms in the two main competitions you are way, way off of being a challenging force.
You were lucky yesterday with the refereeing decisions too.
Won everything you wanted? So you didn't want the premier league trophy then?
Sound a bit bitter mate.
Honest assessment as l see it. Utd spend the sums they do in order to be winning the main trophies and to be up their with the elite of English and European football, but you are still a fair bit off that as things stand.
Won't dent it you are in a better position for success, on and off the pitch, than us, by a long shot. Liverpool are a tier below united in virtually every respect but thats because of our reckless spending and transfer policy more than anything else.
Won't dent it you are in a better position for success, on and off the pitch, than us, by a long shot. Liverpool are a tier below united in virtually every respect but thats because of our reckless spending and transfer policy more than anything else.
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By the next time we play on league we'll hopefully already have won a cup and be a very feared team in 2 others.
That kind of positive momentum is really going to help us as wen enter the final phase of season.
Am going to call it: we will finish 2nd
That kind of positive momentum is really going to help us as wen enter the final phase of season.
Am going to call it: we will finish 2nd
He IS bitterWon everything you wanted? So you didn't want the premier league trophy then?
Sound a bit bitter mate.
Exactly. I don't understand why people are so worried about fixture congestion when we have big enough squad to cope and also few of our players haven't even play many mins this season.
Like Jose said hopefully we have very very very busy period which means we are progressing.
Edit: Also we used 16-18 players (who played proper mins) in 1999 and also in 2008 when we won treble and double. Luckily SAF never moaned about fixture congestion, instead used the pile up fixtures to maintain the momentum.
Winning the league in that season wasn't a realistic goal for that Liverpool squad at the time. A trophy and Champions League football would have been the aim and we did better than that.
I would have loved to have won the league as well that season, but how often do quadruples happen outside of Vincent Kompany's mind?
I think the financial muscle of United is key, rather than Liverpool's 'reckless' spending. United can afford to get transfers wrong whereas Liverpool have less room for error. Di Maria is the obvious case in point here.
I'd say Liverpool's transfers aren't reckless. They're not perfect, sometimes poor, but that's not necessarily reckless. No more than others, really. In fact, since their early flurries in the market, FSG are far too conservative for reckless spending to be a predominant feature.
More to do with us pushing on as a club on and off the field in the 90's as opposed to Liverpool who sat on their laurels and thought success was a prerequisite for the club, resulting in falling way behind us and still playing catch up.
He's also correct.
We're not way off challenging in the PL, that's nonsense.
Got me. The rest of his post is true, though.
LFC are the most profligate club in Premier League history and only until recently had outspent United on transfer spending across the era. So much spending for so little gain.
Man City are a financially doped oil funded plaything which would collapse like a house of cards if one man got bored.
Neither set of fans have any business calling United out for spending income the club has earned legitimately.
But it's always the way once we start to do well. Like clockwork.
Man City are a financially doped oil funded plaything which would collapse like a house of cards if one man got bored.
Neither set of fans have any business calling United out for spending income the club has earned legitimately.
But it's always the way once we start to do well. Like clockwork.
Probably. Not confident about City.
Used to be "will" not would.
Subtle differences mean a lot.
Would and will are both modal verbs.
The sentence "it will collapse if one man gets bored" is still applicable and interchangeable with the above.
I remember that Kompany quote
Ok Poindexter.
The hope that the man will get bored and leave City in financial ruin is just that, a vain, fleeting hope.
In the meantime we'll see you in a few weeks when the talking will stop.
You cant pull out the zzzzz card when you jumped in and brought the grammar up!
owned.City and Liverpool fans in here are acting pathetic.
The fact is, a few months back both of them thought they were challenging for a title and United were struggling. Now they're both in a 5 way race for top 4 with United looking dominant and cruising in Europe on our way to Wembley, and they're scared, and rightly so, because if either one of those clubs missed out on CL football it will (or 'would' @Gentleman Jim ) seriously dent their pulling power. They won't be signing players like Pogba, Zlatan or ADM without CL football like we do.
In Liverpool's case, without CL footy, and in a league with United, Chelsea, Arse, Spuds and City, they're at best the 6th most desirable destination for players...
Think of it like that and start to see Klopp and Guardiola are so increasingly twitchy!
Jose Mourinho terrifies you, it's tangible.
how do you mean?
City and Liverpool fans in here are acting pathetic.
The fact is, a few months back both of them thought they were challenging for a title and United were struggling. Now they're both in a 5 way race for top 4 with United looking dominant and cruising in Europe on our way to Wembley, and they're scared, and rightly so, because if either one of those clubs missed out on CL football it will (or 'would' @Gentleman Jim ) seriously dent their pulling power. They won't be signing players like Pogba, Zlatan or ADM without CL football like we do.
In Liverpool's case, without CL footy, and in a league with United, Chelsea, Arse, Spuds and City, they're at best the 6th most desirable destination for players...
Think of it like that and start to see Klopp and Guardiola are so increasingly twitchy!
Wouldn't affect City's pulling power signing players without CL footie, done it before and will do it again if it comes to it.
You say United are dominant but you're on a long unbeaten run and are still outside the CL places, I wouldn't get so cocky yet, plenty of time for United's wheels to come off. Just a few weeks ago it was all doom and gloom in here after the draw with Hull.