Since Abramovich took over at Chelsea we've been more successful than them, and since Mansour took over at City, we've been more successful than you.
Not really.
Great, everything's rosy for you on and off the field.
Actually, if Conte wins the league this year, Chelsea will have matched the United's PL record of that period (5 titles since 2003/04 season) and have won more trophies overall than United since Abramovich took over.
yeah but Chelsea were probably starting 10 years ahead of City when Abramovich took over, you were already regulars in Europe and winning the odd FA Cup, we were still yoyo-ing up and down the division and had no idea where we would finish season to season.
Who made that ludicrous statement?
Yeah "some" 35 year old, not Zlatan.
Cyberman.
Ok, I'd call that pretty neck-and-neck, with United's 5 league titles (including a league and CL double) tipping the scales slightly in our favour.
Whereas you won yours because JT fell over, but hey..
True, but we were undoubtedly the best side in England and Europe at the time.Whereas you won yours because JT fell over, but hey..
Unlike Chelsea we have won more than one so you'll have to be more specificWhereas you won yours because JT fell over, but hey..
About 37th or something, but that just makes us even more cool. We win CL's when we feel like it!
I honestly couldn't care less. We got to 6 straight CL semi finals and got f**ked quite a few times by bad luck (and some ref cheating). That crop of players deserved to win the CL. Only thing that would have made it even better in my eyes is if we'd knocked Liverpool out on our way to knocking Barcelona out and going on to win it.
But best of all, you've managed to properly represent London at the European stageI honestly couldn't care less. We got to 6 straight CL semi finals and got f**ked quite a few times by bad luck (and some ref cheating). That crop of players deserved to win the CL. Only thing that would have made it even better in my eyes is if we'd knocked Liverpool out on our way to knocking Barcelona out and going on to win it.
Knocking out Arsenal's Invincibles only to have Raneiri feck up a 2-0 lead at home that would have seen us knock out Monaco and go to the final.
Beating Ronaldinho and Barca at that team's peak and also beating Bayern only to go out to a ghost Liverpool goal.
Going out again on shit luck to penalties against Liverpool.
Finally beating Liverpool, getting to the final, one kick away from lifting the trophy only to have our captain slip on the fecking kick. What are the odds?
We come roaring back the next year again, determined to make up for Moscow, only to have Barca do a ref job on us.
Took another 3 years for us to get another real chance. You think I care about the kind of football we played while winning it? All the "pleasing" football we played for the neutrals got us absolutely nothing
I hear you but we represented the Premier League brilliantly in Europe all those years and deserved a trophy and indeed it's sitting in our trophy room right now so it doesn't matter how you see it.
Somebody had to do it.But best of all, you've managed to properly represent London at the European stage
Fair enough.I honestly couldn't care less. We got to 6 straight CL semi finals and got f**ked quite a few times by bad luck (and some ref cheating). That crop of players deserved to win the CL. Only thing that would have made it even better in my eyes is if we'd knocked Liverpool out on our way to knocking Barcelona out and going on to win it.
Knocking out Arsenal's Invincibles only to have Raneiri feck up a 2-0 lead at home that would have seen us knock out Monaco and go to the final.
Beating Ronaldinho and Barca at that team's peak and also beating Bayern only to go out to a ghost Liverpool goal.
Going out again on shit luck to penalties against Liverpool.
Finally beating Liverpool, getting to the final, one kick away from lifting the trophy only to have our captain slip on the fecking kick. What are the odds?
We come roaring back the next year again, determined to make up for Moscow, only to have Barca do a ref job on us.
Took another 3 years for us to get another real chance. You think I care about the kind of football we played while winning it? All the "pleasing" football we played for the neutrals got us absolutely nothing
I hear you but we represented the Premier League brilliantly in Europe all those years and deserved a trophy and indeed it's sitting in our trophy room right now so it doesn't matter how you see it.
We have also won the Club World Cup while they have won the Europa League, though the Europa League is considered a more serious competition, the CWC is actually a very interesting one because you have to play against teams from other continents, which makes it unique as a competition. Chelsea had their chance to win the same trophy but were beaten in the final, so it's not true that it is a joke competition or a glorified friendly etc. They did try to win it, but couldn't. It's not really that easy to play South American teams because they have a totally different approach to football.
I still cannot believe that Chelsea have had managers such as Mourinho, Ancelotti, Hiddink, Scolari, etc - but the one who won the CL was Roberto Di Matteo. It just boggles the mind that he has a CL winner's medal especially when compared with the pedigree of the others.I honestly couldn't care less. We got to 6 straight CL semi finals and got f**ked quite a few times by bad luck (and some ref cheating). That crop of players deserved to win the CL. Only thing that would have made it even better in my eyes is if we'd knocked Liverpool out on our way to knocking Barcelona out and going on to win it.
Knocking out Arsenal's Invincibles only to have Raneiri feck up a 2-0 lead at home that would have seen us knock out Monaco and go to the final.
Beating Ronaldinho and Barca at that team's peak and also beating Bayern only to go out to a ghost Liverpool goal.
Going out again on shit luck to penalties against Liverpool.
Finally beating Liverpool, getting to the final, one kick away from lifting the trophy only to have our captain slip on the fecking kick. What are the odds?
We come roaring back the next year again, determined to make up for Moscow, only to have Barca do a ref job on us.
Took another 3 years for us to get another real chance. You think I care about the kind of football we played while winning it? All the "pleasing" football we played for the neutrals got us absolutely nothing
I hear you but we represented the Premier League brilliantly in Europe all those years and deserved a trophy and indeed it's sitting in our trophy room right now so it doesn't matter how you see it.
I'll make sure to pass your recommendation to Roman and the board.I still cannot believe that Chelsea have had managers such as Mourinho, Ancelotti, Hiddink, Scolari, etc - but the one who won the CL was Roberto Di Matteo. It just boggles the mind that he has a CL winner's medal especially when compared with the pedigree of the others.
And the other time they got to the final, they were managed by Avram Grant (!!!!)
I think that Chelsea should learn from history - the only way they will win the CL is if they appoint a shit manager!!! Will they appoint David Moyes next??
Are you finally accepting you're not likely to win the league this season?
Said every runner up ever.If it wasnt for peak Barca, we might have had 1 or 2 more CLs. The 2009 and 2011 finals were hopeless, we never stood a chance.
It came with the added reward of knocking spurs out of europe for next season. It was glorious. I would want it to be the exact same way when we win it again.
They are clearly talking about post Abramovich era. So rather than him needing to be specific, you need to read properly.Unlike Chelsea we have won more than one so you'll have to be more specific
Given that Conte is only a level above Neville and Giggs (and several levels below fsw and wenger), I'd say we have found out shite manager alreadyI think that Chelsea should learn from history - the only way they will win the CL is if they appoint a shit manager!!! Will they appoint David Moyes next??
He could have been talking about Jose Torres from the legendary 68 Benfica team when referencing JT!It came with the added reward of knocking spurs out of europe for next season. It was glorious. I would want it to be the exact same way when we win it again.
They are clearly talking about post Abramovich era. So rather than him needing to be specific, you need to read properly.
Wenger and Benitez are not shit managers. They have won league titles, managed big clubs, and are well respected and credible managers. Conte is not a shit manager either, though he has to prove himself over a longer period of time in order to be considered better than those two. If he wins the title this season and retains it next season, and also adds a cup, he would then be able to lay claim to being better than them, as he would have proven himself in two different leagues.Given that Conte is only a level above Neville and Giggs (and several levels below fsw and wenger), I'd say we have found out shite manager already
I think the Champions League win from Chelsea had nothing to do with their squad quality. They were a team that refused to be put down, and that undying resilience is what won them glory.
The club world cup does not count. Otherwise you may aswell include the International champions cup or whatever it was that lpool, psg, chelsea, barca etc took part in last yr or yr before. You get a trophy at the end of it, but it is not a major honour in any way shape or form. No way. The Europa league is a major honour, and is levels above CWC. There is no chance Madrid, Utd, barca, chelsea, whoever it is, is devastated when they lose the final. It is essentially a friendly tournament
It's not the same as a present season tournament at all otherwise teams would refuse to take part in it or send weakened squads over and let the big players have a rest.
Its a shit tournament lol. Its not a major honour.
What..... Absolutely not.
It's listed as a major honour unlike the shit pre season tournament you was on about earlier.
So is the charity shield... a friendly. They are not "major" honours.
We'll agree to disagree
yep. In Europe CL and Europa League only major honours. Super Cup = friendly too
what shit are you on about?
