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Lingard signs new £100k 4 year contract (Sky) | Official: Option to extend for a further year
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I expect him to be a stable squad player and start generating more goals, a bit like Ashley Young during his first year.
The main issue with paying him too much, is not that he doesn't deserve it, but should we decide we want to sell him, he going to be difficult to offload.
That's true, papers doubled Shaw's wage for a good year, for example.
I imagine the biggest issue will be selling him to a mid table club in a few seasons. Who'd want him on such a heavy wage?
He completely deserves a new contract. He, in my opinion, is one of the few players in the side these days who possesses real character. His work rate and off the ball movement is excellent and he can still improve a lot. He's not the most talented player in the world and he'll probably never be more than a squad player, but he's definitely worth keeping.
The wages are pretty high but I don't really care, especially when players like Schweinsteiger and Rooney are freeing up our wage bill no end.
The wages are pretty high but I don't really care, especially when players like Schweinsteiger and Rooney are freeing up our wage bill no end.
Yeah you can't expect him to score a winner in the FA Cup final or a class goals in the community shield or in the league cup final.
Of course they matter. If players of a similar quality to him earn less, then it makes harder for us to get rid of him if/when we need to because there will be cheaper alternatives out there.
Not to mention Rooney's wages, which are estimated at £1billion a week and rising.
Good stuff. That's a relief tbh. Whatever about paying 100k to renew the contract of a young player, the world's gone mad if they're getting that kind of money from the get go.
As long as he's second/third fiddle to better players, I don't care. The issue is that he starts too often and isn't good enough to at a club with big aspirations.
Really, who gives a feck whether he earns 100k or 200k or 50k?
Its hilarious watching the muppet show unfold after news we're extending Carrick and Lingard.
You trying to make us bite? Its also the complete opposite of fair, a player that wouldn't even stand out in a mid table team gets fed with a silver spoon because he was blessed enough to come through our academy..
Shaw was a starter for 2 seasons in the PL to be fair, and in the PFA team of the year. In fact, he had more PL appearances for S'oton than Lingard has for us despite being only 18 when we signed him. So judging him just by his age is a bit unfair.
Just because you can spend a ton of cash does not necessarily mean you should. If I want a tasty burger I COULD spend £40 on it if I wanted because i'm outrageously wealthy but I don't have to, I can get a perfectly juicy burger for £10 and enjoy it just as much.
Pure guess work from Sky.
Apparently he is on 25K so even the wages are trebled it's around 75K mark.
I don't doubt he'll be anything more than a squaddie during his time here for us, which is fine. I just find it concerning how, post Fergie, we throw so much money around willy nilly.
Not so much O'Shea even though I liked him, but Butt was a very good player worth the money. He was, at times and rightly so, seen as our partner to Keane over Scholes and never let us down. A very underrated player in my opinion.
And that's not even including the image rights that Stretford managed to swindle out of the club.
That's probably before tax. What are the tax rates like?
He's a local lad who loves the club, and many of you say he will settle for a limited role you say, without any sort of info on that.
So I will counter with my perception of this scenario. He's reportedly been in negotiation over this contract for the whole of this season, getting a pay rise after one season as a senior member. He obviously hasn't accepted the first few offers (Who would open with a 100k offer?) so he's just like any other player. He'll leave if he isn't paid at premium and he'll probably want to leave if his role would be reduced to the seldom used squad player status I feel his performances warrant.
So I will counter with my perception of this scenario. He's reportedly been in negotiation over this contract for the whole of this season, getting a pay rise after one season as a senior member. He obviously hasn't accepted the first few offers (Who would open with a 100k offer?) so he's just like any other player. He'll leave if he isn't paid at premium and he'll probably want to leave if his role would be reduced to the seldom used squad player status I feel his performances warrant.
100k seems a bit much and I don't think he'll be a long-term starter if we're looking to improve, but handy to have around as a squad player.
If the 100k figure is true, then i wished that lingard was as good as his agent... Cheese
100k is not a lot these days for very big clubs like United. It's also a massive statement to the academy lads. It says, "Work hard and you can make it here".
The contract also says a lot about how Jose values Lingard.
I also think United either had to sell Lingard or make him feel valuable. Pogba was his mate and the club just paid almost a 100 million bucks to buy him.
However, in pure footballing terms, is Lingard good enough to be a United player? That's the real question.
The contract also says a lot about how Jose values Lingard.
I also think United either had to sell Lingard or make him feel valuable. Pogba was his mate and the club just paid almost a 100 million bucks to buy him.
However, in pure footballing terms, is Lingard good enough to be a United player? That's the real question.
I am quite staggered by this. Sure he deserves to stay as a squad rotation player, but unless this is the going rate for such a player at Manchester United, why are we giving a player of this ability such rewards and status?
You do realise that there's a reason that only very very few players that come through our academy to become regulars like Lingard? And when they do, it's not because they were "blessed".
Do you actually think our manager and board are that naive ? They are obviously making a calculated bet that Lingard is going to develop into a top player in the coming years and are locking into a contract that is commensurate with his expected performances - as in, the things they think he'll do in the future.
100k a week... this is getting ridiculous now if this is true. Lingard is a decent squad player but 100k a week? really United? He deserves a contract no doubt but at most 70-80k a week contract, 100k a week is just outrageous for a player of his quality & considering the fact he could likely not play as much next season if Jose does bulk the squad over the summer with better players.
It's weird. The anger seems to be based more around the figure rather than whether or not Lingard is actually a good footballer.
It doesn't really make any difference to us fans. I don't know why there's so much fury about it. Same when it comes to selling players and getting good fees. Who cares? Are you getting a cut of the fee when it comes in?
This is an indication as to the wages the big summer transfers will be on.
I don't think he has been poor this season. The manager certainly doesn't think so.
He hasn't been great but he certainly hasn't been one of our poorest players this season if you ask me.
He's a decent option as a squad player, but it's difficult as a fan to see us tie down squad players when we don't have good enough players agead if the squad players. At that point, it seems as if everyone's not good enough.
To my defense, I'm an absolute penny pincher. If I was Woodward, I probably would have fainted at the moment of signing the contract.
This is a big bone of contention for me. We've got cleaners in minimum wage or living wage, staff barely making ends meet. If clubs have so much money to throw around, why not at the people at the bottom end of the salary scale? Lingard isn't worth £100k a week, you can get cleaners on £6.50 an hour, would it hurt to pay them £12 an hour?
That's pretty much exactly what he is, has played by far the least out of Mata, Rashford, Micki, Martial and him.
Yeah but this is a club who as recently as January were paying 750k/wk on players who were either on the bench or didn't even make the bench (Rooney, Schmidfield, Depay, Young etc). We can clearly afford 100k on a player who does play and who we are betting will consistently improve over time as he enters his prime career years.
But the list of players given it doesn't matter about their wages. You can't really say "Thiago is on 80k a week so we can't pay Lingard 100k a week" Why can't we? If players come to join clubs like United they'd demand huge wages anyway they have done for years. WE pay more money because their agents know we can. Certain clubs just won't pay that money so why should Lingard suddenly be capped because of another teams salary restrictions? The guy negotiated a contract (or his agent did) so fair play to him. The club decided he was worth that money and it's settled. I don't know why fans get so worked up about wages. Do you seriously think we'd miss out on big transfer targets cos of Lingard's new contract? It's just a bit odd.
Fair enough, hope you enjoy the burger. Of course a footballer (or person) is hard to compare to food. Lingard has come through the academy, seems happy around the club, popular amongst players and staff, lives locally, doesn't kick up a fuss, willing to be a squad player, has scored important goals and does always at least show willing unlike others. An equivalent player may cost a few grand less a week but there's no guarantee he'd be happy like Lingard is at the moment.
Lol 100k?
That's because none of them is good enough for a club whose seriously competing on three fronts. Oh well, next season Carrick will probably come out saying that he felt guilty taking money out of the club when it was clearly that he's not good enough for us anymore and we'll be treating him like some sort of hero for saying that.
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