Ivan Perisic

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Actually excited about him. Can he play on the right? Would love to have PACE on both sides which Martial offers on the left. Mata/Lingard/Mkhitaryan isn't THAT quick out wide imo, especially not Juan.

Lukaku
Martial - Mkhitaryan (or Pogba) - Perisic​
 
This thread is an absolute joke. I cannot wait until the posters who are so against this change their tune half way through the first part of the season, will be hilarious.
 
He isn´t going to be bought for 48m never...
This will be 30m plus add ons.
Anyway well happy with this great player, full on winger with pace, agility, two great feet and great passing ability. Plus he is a grafter and a great team player.
For me he is one of the things we were missing on our left wing last season.

Valencia and Perisic will give teams something to think about.
 
JPRouve said:
In that case bring a player that doesn't have question marks over his head, spend the required amount of money to bring that top, ready made player. As someone that likes Ashley Young, I wouldn't mind Perisic if he was reasonably priced and wasn't expected to be one of the consistent difference makers, what really bothers me here is that we are adding a player that is not really better than our current options, he is far less effective than some of them.

If I'm being perfectly honest, despite my posts in this thread I know that Perisic is an adequate player, I'm just disappointed by the fact that he doesn't really have any upside compared to a young player because despite his age he has the exact same question marks than the one you would have on a prospect. My philosophy when it comes to transfers is that you spend big on a 28 years old player only if he is a confirmed top player, otherwise you either go for bargains or young players with upsides.
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I fully agree with you on those points. I wouldnt mind Peresic if the fee was lower and also if he was more of a squad option.
What I do like is that he offers something different from the other players Martial/Lingard/Mhiki etc and is two footed and has an eye for goal too.
However at 48m I'm expecting a starting 11 player and a real difference maker which I'm not sure about with him.

He will add something different though and I can't think of many alternative 2 footed hard working wingers who are direct and can put in good delivery.
 
I am pretty convinced if he were 25 and coming from Dortmund after similar year that he had at Inter, people would be fine with this transfer.
 
JPRouve said:
He is a creative machine though, Silva was most of the time the one making the difference.
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roonster09 said:
Bernardo Silva is fantastic player though. It's like Mata and David Silva, David Silva was better but Mata had better stats.
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My post was meant for something else though, that the guy might not lose the bet if he bets Perisic scoring+assisting more goals than Silva.
 
Cassidy said:
I fully agree with you on those points. I wouldnt mind Peresic if the fee was lower and also if he was more of a squad option.
What I do like is that he offers something different from the other players Martial/Lingard/Mhiki etc and is two footed and has an eye for goal too.
However at 48m I'm expecting a starting 11 player and a real difference maker which I'm not sure about with him.

He will add something different though and I can't think of many alternative 2 footed hard working wingers who are direct and can put in good delivery.
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Why do you care about the fee?
 
Perisic deadwood? Mind boggling. Infuriating.
 
pjaya said:
Anyone remembered when we sign solskjaer?
It would be a huge meltdown in redcafe if we turn the clock back and imagine we are signing him now....

Anyway let give him a chance to proved himself here.... we just can't buy anyone...
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Solskjaer came in for next to nothing and there was little expectation from him. Perisic would be coming in for huge money and will need to hit the ground running pretty much right away.

I do agree with the sentiment of giving him a chance though.
 
Sarni said:
Why do you care about the fee?
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If you read the post you quoted the answer is there, expectation. Fees dictate quality and expectation.
I don't mind a decent player for a decent player price, but if were paying the price for a higher level player then I expect a higher level player
 
JoaquinJoaquin said:
Solskjaer came in for next to nothing and there was little expectation from him. Perisic would be coming in for huge money and will need to hit the ground running pretty much right away.

I do agree with the sentiment of giving him a chance though.
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Thank you for putting 48M of your own money into buying him.

Why does the fee matter exactly? :wenger:
 
Sarni said:
I am pretty convinced if he were 25 and coming from Dortmund after similar year that he had at Inter, people would be fine with this transfer.
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So what you're saying is, a player's age and the quality of the league/club where he's currently playing his football both have an impact on people's opinions of him as a prospective transfer.
 
roonster09 said:
My post was meant for something else though, that the guy might not lose the bet if he bets Perisic scoring+assisting more goals than Silva.
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I saw it later but even then Monaco's wide players are deeper than City's, in theory Bernardo should be closer to the final third with them and therefore increase his assists and goals stats. The funny thing about Bernardo is that outside of Lemar, he was probably the player with the best kicking technique at Monaco but he only showcased it during his first season.
 
Sarni said:
Why do you care about the fee?
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It's potentially an indication on the players place in the roster, in principle you are not ready to pay over the odds for a squad player. It's not the actual amount that is the problem but its significance.
 
JPRouve said:
I saw it later but even then Monaco's wide players are deeper than City's, in theory Bernardo should be closer to the final third with them and therefore increase his assists and goals stats. The funny thing about Bernardo is that outside of Lemar, he was probably the player with the best kicking technique at Monaco but he only showcased it during his first season.
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Yeah there is a good chance and also City's build up play means he will be much closer to final third. I think he will be the player who will unlock the defense but won't be having big numbers in assists. It's like pre assist passes if that makes any sense. Like David Silva and Mata comparison. David Silva plays the pass that sets player free to create goal scoring chance, whereas Mata like player is the one who makes passes that directly leads to assists.
 
Maradona10 said:
Everyone has a pattern of play, with a striker likr lukaku you cannot expect deft one twos and him beating three defenders to score. It would be stupid to think with the players we are signing we are not looking for crossing and scoring along with pace in the counter.
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Those are defintely two important dimensions of our attack, but once again you're being reductive. We don't need Lukaku to be deft to play clever one-two's, in fact we've been best when those kind of one two's have been played down the flanks in order to make space for a cut-back or a run in behind. We have players who can play those deft one twos as well as players that can beat a couple of men. We have Martial and Rashford who can run in behind, Mikhi who has excellent poise and an ability to drift past defenders, Mata who is an expert in finding little pockets of space between the channels, and Pogba, who can play short through balls and long cross-field passes equally well. Perisic and Lukaku add different dimensions to our attack; they do not re-define it.
 
From the little I've seen of him, he looks fairly useful. I think people are going completely OTT with some of the negative comments. I'm not excited about him coming in and I'm hoping he'll prove to be a better player than I think he is. But feck me, you would swear he's absolute garbage.
 
crossy1686 said:
Have we ever had a player that has chosen to wear a number over the first 25 squad players? (with the exception of youth players wearing numbers like 32). Seems like something Fergie wouldn't have allowed but it seems like something Jose would be okay with.
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Darmian chose 36.
 
Robbie Boy said:
From the little I've seen of him, he looks fairly useful. I think people are going completely OTT with some of the negative comments. I'm not excited about him coming in and I'm hoping he'll prove to be a better player than I think he is. But feck me, you would swear he's absolute garbage.
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Aside from the fact he's a good player, I think people don't understand the importance of balance. We have enough roaming wingers so he'll give us something else. A bit like we hoped Valencia and Nani would be...
 
Sarni said:
I am pretty convinced if he were 25 and coming from Dortmund after similar year that he had at Inter, people would be fine with this transfer.
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In Fergie's days, when you spent 50m for a 28-29 y.o., you're expecting a (close to) world class player. That's even considering this nowadays mark up price.

Agreed on your post. 50m for Perisic make 50m for Walker a bargain, where almost the whole football world was laughing about. Why people can turn blind on the price, just don't understand.
 
Isotope said:
In Fergie's days, when you spent 50m for a 28-29 y.o., you're expecting a (close to) world class player. That's even considering this nowadays mark up price.

50m for Perisic make 50m for Walker a bargain, where almost the football world was laughing about.
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Hes a better player than Walker lol
 
Isotope said:
In Fergie's days, when you spent 50m for a 28-29 y.o., you're expecting a (close to) world class player. That's even considering this nowadays mark up price.

Agreed on your post. 50m for Perisic make 50m for Walker a bargain, where almost the football world was laughing about. Why people can turn blind on the price, just don't understand.
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You can't remotely compare the days under Fergie with the transfer prices nowadays. The inflation has been crazy. Also Walker for 50m a Bargain? You are having a laugh.
 
Godfather said:
You can't remotely compare the days under Fergie with the transfer prices nowadays. The inflation has been crazy. Also Walker for 50m a Bargain? You are having a laugh.
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I did say, that's including the nowadays mark up price. Walker for 50m looks like a bargain, if Perisic goes for 50m.
 
Bwuk said:
Watch him be our player of the season and the caf go daft.
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I've been saying something similar. I've only seen clips, but from the ones I've seen I think I at least have an idea of the type of player he is. He might not be a 48m player, but he could bring 48m worth of a change to our game. He is exactly what we need on the wings, and we have literally no one in our squad who can offer that. When Watford turned down £30m for Troy Deeney, he (at least I don't think) was worth that much, but he was worth that much to them.
 
So we are getting him at 40m.....I can live with that...apprehensive for the most part but I think he will do well....hope to see him play against Citeh ...maybe that's too soon?
 
pjaya said:
Anyone remembered when we sign solskjaer?
It would be a huge meltdown in redcafe if we turn the clock back and imagine we are signing him now....

Anyway let give him a chance to proved himself here.... we just can't buy anyone...
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Solskjaer came in very much under the radar. I doubt anyone would have an issue to pick up a cheap prospect to give him a shot

its a difference buying a 28 year old for 50 million

So I understand why people are not jumping for joy on this one.
 
Car crash of a thread, don't understand people who have already said they don't want to sign him and continue to post in this thread. It won't change anything.

Just wait and see how he plays.
 
I just hope his performance thread isn't going to be as boring as his transfer one, as this thread has been 2 opinions being repeated over and over again.
 
People calling Perisic deadwood :lol:

People play FM too much these days. Some fans are too spoiled. Sign anyone other than Messi or Ronaldo and they'll moan. Hell, I guess people would moan even if we sign one of them, they'll find something to moan about messi too, I'm sure.

Yes the price is steep, but if Mourinho really wants him that bad, maybe we should sign him? He'll bring directness and much needed width to the team. His crossing would make Lukaku more dangerous.

Also do people think plan B is Bale or Sanchez? If Perisic is plan A, who knows what plan B is? Also how are you all sure that plan B won't cost the same or even more?

I'll judge him on the pitch, not by his age or fee. He's desperate to play for us, which is always a good thing. Mourinho clearly has a plan for him, just get him.
 
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